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Brunei: ‘Stone the gays’ law to be phased in from tomorrow

  • Valksy

    Typical puke-making barbaric bronze age savagery – Just one more festering armpit of a nation rotting from within due to backwards religious tyranny.

  • Ian_in_England

    Is all anyone can do to boycott hotels which are out of the reach of ordinary people in the first place? Why are no political figures speaking out? How can this ignorant barbarism be countenanced? I can barely believe it is true. Is this the same sharia law we are allowing to be practiced in the UK? This cannot be allowed to happen. Those with power – DO SOMETHING …

    • vladtepesblog

      Yep. Sounds like it’s time for another gay pride march in Toronto against Israel!

      • http://littlenotesfromparis.blogspot.fr/ Rita

        soooooooooooooo touché !!

  • Brett Gibson

    Brunei ‘Darussalam’ – Brunei ‘the abode of peace’

    Lol, jk, people get stoned to death there.

  • Cal

    That nasty little worm the sultan is gleefully digging his heels in inspire of world condemnation.

  • soapbubblequeen

    Disgusting. But what can we do? Except not stay at the Dorchester! LOL. They have billions and basically, along with the Russian oligarchs, control half of London’s finances.

    • anon

      Develop nuclear fusion. Their economy is over 90% oil exports, and western energy independence would send them back to the stone age.

      • Jordan Bassior

        Use the nuclear fission we’ve already developed. We don’t for superstitious reasons — what makes you think that the same superstition won’t attach to nuclear fusion when it becomes practical?

  • John-UK

    Its food for thought-but-if-say Brunei was planning to build concentration camps with gas ovens – and they were planning to round up all the known gays and transport them to these ‘camps’ with the intention of mass gassing them to death- Do we really think that – in 2014- the rest of the world would do anything to stop it=apart from a few rich gays and gay supporters boycotting The Dorchester? Its frightening proof that NOTHING has changed since WW2!!!!

    • Robert W. Pierce

      I always knew the holocaust of WW2 wouldn’t be the last. This could well lead to another, not just in Brunei but elsewhere in the Islamic world. Meanwhile, the world will do nothing. I tweeted Justin Welby and Cardinal Nichols for comment. I very much doubt I’ll be hearing from either.

      • http://www.bloketoys.co.uk/ BlokeToys.co.uk

        Not just the Islamic world, last year the Russian Duma was on the cusp of passing a bill to authorize the construction of 80 prison camps across Russia.

      • J.

        Robert, its disgusting that political leaders chose to be impotent when crimes against humanity occur, but it’s beyond disgusting when religious leaders look the other way and pretend that these crimes aren’t happening. Has the world learnt anything after the holocaust of WWII? Recent events suggests that any lessons learnt are now forgotten.

        • Antonia

          Um…Speaking of religious leaders…Did you happen to notice that “declaring oneself to be a non-muslim” is also an offense punishable by stoning?

      • jaycgallagher

        Right, no offence, but don’t moan about the World doing nothing and then follow that up by saying “I tweeted such and such a person and asked them to comment”, as though that equates to doing something.

        • http://littlenotesfromparis.blogspot.fr/ Rita

          Well, in defence of Robert W. Pierce (whom I dont know): to say nothing is to say YES. At least he doesn’t say yes. And lets not underestimate the power of words…..many words….or words repeated.

      • Jordan Bassior

        Wasn’t the first (Armenia, Stalin’s engineered famines) nor was it the last (Mao’s engineered famines, Pol Pot’s massacre of “urban intellectuals”). The difference is that, with increasing Muslim penetration of the West it may — like Hitler’s Holocaust — affect people who look like you and speak Western languages.

    • J.

      Western leaders give an impression that they will not interfere unless it effects their power or people. When a psychopathic leader declares war on his own people within his nation’s borders the rest of the world doesn’t want to be involved. It’s so tragic for people living under such a regime as it will be difficult, if not impossible, to escape and if they manage to they still have to face an asylum process that is usually brutally unfair. Losing appeals for asylum means facing the death penalty on return to their homeland. Therefore the world doesn’t seem to care at all and humanity appears to have forgotten the lessons of its past mistakes.

    • Tristan

      So SO true! Never thought of it this way! Its not that far off becoming a reality – I mean the UN definition of Genocide is:

      1)Killing members of the group

      2) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group

      3) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part

      I did read that the Muslim world would be responsible for the beginning of WW3. I am NOT saying ALL Muslims are like this – but those enforcing its laws certainly seem to be on the right track!

      • vladtepesblog

        The problem is the ideology of Islam. Just like it was also the ideology of communism and Nazism. The more devoted any individual is to one of these ideologies, the more of a threat to world peace and multilateral-ism they are. Not all Germans worked at the camps but their were more ways to support the regime than that. Same with Islam. Any muslim who pays ‘zakat’ or the tax for muslims to spread sharia, is demanding laws like this all over the world.

        Brunei is not the last place that will have this law. It is just the one we notice today because they are being too open about it to ignore it. But this will spread and faster than you may think. Look at how fast really illiberal sharia norms against freedom of speech and conscience as well as basic women’s rights are spreading in the UK under the veneer of hate speech or equivalent nonsense. Sooner or later people are going to have to fight to preserve the mechanisms we all use to preserve our basic rights. So far, the left, and gay groups, have been fighting against those mechanisms, and the same mechanisms they used to achieve rights in the Western world.

        • Kev

          It is not the ideology of Islam that is the problem, it is the problem of ANY religion in power. Non-separation of power and church/religion leads to violence. It’s important to note that this is not unique to Islam.
          As long as people are free to choose their religion and don’t presume to be allowed to dictate their beliefs unto others there is no issue with any religion, apart from the fact that most of them cause a reduction in the independent intelligence of humanity.

          • vladtepesblog

            I’ll accept that its not unique to Islam historically. Also generally what you say is true. But there is no other religion that has as its core doctrine that gay people must be killed. Only Islam has this as an immutable inviolable aspect of its religion. The European umma has been trying to decide in what manner to kill gay people once they have enough power to do so. This has not happened with Buddhists, Jains, Hindus or Christians for a very long time. So while there is some truth to your moral and cultural relativism there is no actual practical value to it.

            The greatest threat, and it is an existential one, to homosexuals is ascendant islam. While Russia may have a law against what they refer to as ‘homosexual propaganda’ there is no threat to their lives or even lifestyles. Israel, a Jewish state, has the most liberal gay rights in that part of the world. Canada, the US and Western Europe, all formed by Christian values, also have pretty much redefined the term ‘marriage’ to include two people of the same sex. Now find me a majority muslim nation that eve tolerates gay people to openly be who they are.

          • http://dachte.org Pat Gunn

            vlad: You say “But there is no other religion that has as its core doctrine that gay
            people must be killed. Only Islam has this as an immutable inviolable
            aspect of its religion.”

            I say: Judaism and Christianity have this in their “holy” books too, as do many other faiths. Whether it’s immutable or inviolable is up for debate (in Islam or any of these other faiths), but just because Islam is terrible on this issue doesn’t make it *uniquely* terrible. Terrible’s bad enough.

            Maybe you’re on an anti-Islam crusade. Fine. But try to be fair in your comparisons with other faiths, and consider that if you’re actually interested in this issue rather than just slamming Islam whenever you can, you’re going to need to consider more targets (and possibly make nice with some flavours of Islam that are relatively friendly to BIGALA folk).

          • vladtepesblog

            What you are doing seems to me to be a version of ‘temporal relativism’. Because you believe that Christians and Jews also murdered gay people sometime in the distant past, that somehow mitigates the fact that Islam both does it now, and advocates it now as part of it’s central dogma. I could argue that Jews never did as the old testament basically goes like this: ‘

            God told the Jews to do some awful thing. They didn’t. God got mad and punished them. The Jews negotiated their way around the next thing and it more or less worked out’

            But even if they did it doesn’t matter as Israel is a self proclaimed Jewish state and their are gay clubs all over the place and many gay people from Arab states move there for that reason.

            One cannot look at an action and not its motive. In fact a judge determines the sentence even for murder going from immediate release to the death penalty entirely based on the motive for a killing. If two people get in a fight over a lover or material wealth and one gets killed who is Jewish and the other German no motive is factored in other than the nature of the fight. If one is a Nazi and the other Jewish and the Jewish person is killed because he is Jewish that is a critically different thing.

            Islam carries as central dogma that certain kinds of homosexuality is punishable by death. This would be by two consenting adults. Rape of children of course is a time honoured tradition and also central dogma in Islamic nations. (See the Bachi Boys of Afghanistan or the recent BBC documentary about US forces leaving Afghanistan and their experiences with male child sex slaves)

            Making moral equivalencies where none exist today is counter productive. Am I on an “anti islamic crusade”? Yes. Because of the contents of Islam not because of the word. I am also on an anti communist crusade and an anti Nazi one for the exact same reasons. Because these organizational principles bring a staggering amount of suffering and loss of freedom and development to all they touch.

          • Jordan Bassior

            I know you’re trying to avoid being “unfair” to Islam, but reality is reality. No other major religion in the modern world has as a widespread and legally-implemented doctrine the requirement to kill homosexuals. Few even have a doctrine of punishing homosexuals (save by post-mortem divine retribution).

            Islam is different, and pretending it won’t not only won’t save a single homosexual from being murdered — in Brunei and other benighted places — it actually makes it easier for the killers to escape justice.

    • vladtepesblog

      The Gay community is way to busy attacking Israel and Western states who do not approve of more abstract rights to worry about a little think like murder of gay people for being gay under the sharia. Its just not with the narrative you know. Not politically correct.

      • saintlaw

        Could you post that again, this time in English.

        • vladtepesblog

          What I mean is, that if a nation or state were to grant a civil union that has all the rights of a pre-revisionist marriage but is not called marriage because the average person may not want to change the actual definition of that word, there will be far far more protests, media attention, lifetime banns from basketball games and general hysteria vented at that state and representatives than about this. Why? Because the cultural Marxist narrative, the ‘politically correct’ form of action is to attack Western civilization for any perceived slight while ignoring the genuine horror of non-Western cultures. This, despite the fact that only in Western nations in the history of the world have various minorities as defined by race or even by behaviour and sexual preferences managed to achieve the rights they have today.

          I am quite confident that there will be no marches or protests about this law in Brunei. But there will be endless complaints about Stephen Harper in Canada by homosexual lobbyists and advocacy groups. The Cultural Marxist narrative trumps actual threats to the gay community every time. And this is a tragedy at so many levels.

          • http://littlenotesfromparis.blogspot.fr/ Rita

            ….and it plays right into the hands of islam. :(

      • http://littlenotesfromparis.blogspot.fr/ Rita

        well, if I may put it cynically: they are just such “Fashion”victims.

        • saintlaw

          Yes but then to be fair you are a moron.

          • http://littlenotesfromparis.blogspot.fr/ Rita

            What a text book case of Psychological projection. (look it up, linguistically and otherwise challenged as you seem to be).

  • Rumbelow

    Homophobes really are mentally deficient.

    • Hogspace

      Sociopath and Psychopath are redundant discredited terms. Made so because they are entirely subjective and the observation relies on the perspective of the observer.
      Homophobes are either very unpleasant or deeply misguided people and should be educated or dealt with appropriately, but freedom of speech MUST be maintained.

  • http://www.bloketoys.co.uk/ BlokeToys.co.uk

    UN Spokesman Rupert Colville said…

    He just repeated what we already know, but yet again there no mention of sanctions, no mention of punishment for breaching international law, no method of holding anyone to account or rolling back of any support or business associations to the country.

    Once again, the UN is proving itself to be great at earning themselves fat paychecks and spending time having meetings about meetings to plan meetings…

    Spineless, pointless bureaucracy.

    • J.

      Its just like the IOC. LGBT lives appear to be way down their list of concerns.

      • Antonia

        It’s not just LGBT lives. It’s also non-muslims, adulterers, and others who will be stoned.

  • doug

    I imagine the Foreign Office has warned him implement the new laws and you will become a social pariah in London. There is no way he would get through the gates of Buckingham Palace or Clarence House again if he followed through on any of these laws and he knows it — the same Sultan.

    • J.

      As Head of the Commonwealth the Queen has met and entertained other brutal leaders. There’s doubt as to whether or not stoning gays to death in Brunei will prevent its Sultan from being received by UK royalty. Hopefully that will not happen but nothing should surprise us anymore.

    • Rehan

      The Queen, as a horse-breeder, frequently socialises with Saudi royalty, and I’m sure I don’t need to remind you of the laws that are well known to be implemented in that country.

      • doug

        Yes, but they have a lot more
        social connections with the House of Bolkiah, the
        sultan and two of his wives, for example, attended the wedding of Prince
        Edward. It would be too close for comfort if he started stoning gays and
        cutting peoples’ hands off. He would be the ultimate social pariah in London.

        • Rehan

          I really hope that’s so, but the cynic in me tends to think the introduction of Sharia law will change nothing at all for Brunei’s ruling family (as long as they retain their obscene wealth anyway).

          • Frank Boulton

            Yes, my cynical nature inclines me to agree with you. The Sultan of Brunei is far too rich to be made into a pariah. Money speaks louder than ethics to the ruling classes.

  • Jase

    This general area of the world is just bad news for any gay person.

    Western gays should lobby their governments to stop loaning/giving assistance money to these Indonesian countries permanently. The next natural disaster, they can deal with on their own.

    • Toby

      Brunei is an independent country which has absolutely nothing to do with Indonesia or its laws which are vastly different to this Sultans decree in Brunei. Nor should we lobby against people from helping people in dire need to survive from natural disasters. It would be just as inhumane. This is one man’s dictatorship to control and not a general countries view. Living in Asia from Australia. I am aware of a lot of young gay Brunei men that now need to fear for their lives. I feel for them as I would for any individuals who have their freedom drastically affected by poor choices of people of power…

      • Sharksaver

        Well said, Toby. Most local Bruneians DO NOT WANT syriah law, but when voices were raised in protest in the media (in discussion forums, etc), they were denounced publicly by the sultan himself as ‘uneducated, immoral and unpatriotic’… and instantly all the voices ceased. People there are terrified of being blacklisted somehow if they express anything negative; and with no legitimate avenue for protest or any kind of democracy there, what options are left to them? Either shut up or ship out, basically :-(

      • Hogspace

        It is NOT one man. It is a worldwide religious cult. A poisonous serpent of homophobia misogyny repression and murder. WAKE UP

  • http://twrl.github.com/ Tom Robbins

    Can we assume that from tomorrow all senior officials of Brunei, including the sultan, are considered criminals against humanity; that their assets will be stripped, their movements abroad will bring them prison, and so on.

    No, I thought not.

    We’re good at talking about human rights, but not at standing by them.

    • Jordan Bassior

      “Enlightened” Westerners hailed decolonization as noble and just and proof of a glorious new age to come in the formerly colonized world.

      Well, here it is. Enjoying the glorious new age yet?

      • http://twrl.github.com/ Tom Robbins

        What would you have us do? Reconquering the known world seems like something of an overreaction.

  • J.

    “Under the law, the death penalty can be applied for rape, adultery, sodomy, extramarital sexual relations for Muslims, insulting any verses of the Quran and Hadith, blasphemy, declaring oneself a prophet or non-Muslim, and murder”.

    In other words he’s a Nazi. He’ll pursue anyone he dislikes and accuse them of “sodomy” whether they are gay or not. That has happened under a Muslim regime in Malaysia. The death penalty in relation to rape, adultery and extramarital affairs probably applies only to the female victims as has been witnessed in other Islamic states.

    He’s forcing the citizens of Brunei to live in a mediaeval life of fear and terror. Absolutely no better than Hitler and he should face international justice for his crimes against humanity. He should hang like Saddam Hussein, but no western leader is likely to take him on as his wealth is his power. Holocausts are still happening in the world.

    • Truth

      I agree. This is much more about oppression than homosexuality. I can only assume that this man is fearful of the kind of revolution we’ve seen in Syria and Egypt. This law is not only about gay people. It will be used to suppress any potential opposition to the Sultan’s disgusting regime.

      • Sharksaver

        You’re right. I lived there for a few years, and the crackdown started about a year before I left… Initially, there was A LOT of very outspoken opposition from the locals about the changes posted as comments on reports in the Brunei Times’ online paper. Then the Sultan stated he was unhappy about the anti-syriah discussions in the media, and denounced all those making such comments as either uneducated, immoral or unpatriotic…. and overnight, all the comments stopped. If you look on the BT’s website now, click on any story and there are ZERO comments – it’s pitiful. People are terrified to speak out for fear of being ‘blacklisted’ somehow. Also, the comments are now all censored… so NOTHING that sounds in any way critical of the regime gets published. I tried!

        The new syriah code contains a whole raft of special rules just for non-muslims, including massive fines for things like ‘corrupting a muslim’ (if you have alcohol in your own home and a muslim comes in and sees it, you are technically tempting him to drink and go against his/her religion, so you are at fault. Apparently). The regime – of which the sultan is the figurehead, yes, but the Ministry of Religious Affairs is the driving force – is determined to stop the country becoming any more westernised, something that has been an inevitable consequence of years of reliance on expat labour and expertise, uncensored (for now) access to the internet, and a widespread practice of issuing bursaries to teenaged Bruneians to go and study abroad in places like the UK, US and Australasia.

        The sultan himself is unofficially acknowledged as being pretty laid back (and let’s face it, you don’t have to dig too deep to find stories about his and his brother’s, er, ‘un-islamic activities’ in days gone by), and the sexuality of one of his own sons is also the source of much speculation. So, to be frank, his hardline stance now – as well as being barbaric – is INCREDIBLY hypocritical.

        The vast majority of his own people DO NOT WANT syriah law imposed, but as things stand, they have no avenue for legitimate protest and are being denied a public forum to discuss it or raise their concerns without fear of retribution. This whole situation is not going to end well :-(

        • sandy_yap@live.com

          I totally agree. Where are you from?

    • Frank Boulton

      As I’ve said many times, the Holocaust isn’t over yet.

  • Robert

    Brunei citizens enjoy visa-free travel in the UK, US, Australia and the Schengen area. This should change, and drastic visa conditions should be slapped on the country. They can travel to Saudi or Russia for their future visits…

    • Sue Portsmouth

      Well unless they are trying to escape!

  • M.C.

    Bring back the empire.

  • J.

    I would like to hear leading ‘moderate’ Muslim voices publicly condemning the Sultan of Brunei. We are informed that Islamic extremism is representative only of a minority of Muslims and that moderates represent the majority. We want to hear condemnation of the Sultan from leaders of those moderate Muslims, otherwise it is very difficult for non-Muslims to believe that there are any authentic ‘moderate’ representatives willing to speak out and challenge Islamic extremism.

    • Frank Boulton

      I don’t want to jump on the bandwagon and start condemning any particular religion but the silence of the religious, whether moderate or extreme, is deafening, is it not? Let’s not forget that most religionists believe that rulers were put here by God. That’s morality for you. It’s why I prefer ethics.

    • Right-Minded

      This isn’t Islamic extremism, its just Islam, being practiced as it was intended.

    • Hogspace

      I suggest you become familiar with Maryam Namazi and Ayaan Hirsi Ali. There is no such thing as ” moderate” islam.
      Don’t be especially upset by Brunei, every Islamic shariah theocracy in the world is as bad. In particular consider how integrated into our financial system and government figures the Saudis are and they may be worst of all. Be upset that we have relations with any and all of them.
      Be afraid of their numbers in the UK, already there are no go areas, be afraid for the future unless people act now.

      • J.

        The Muslim Labour MPs voted for same-sex marriage in the UK Parliament, so there must be at least some moderate Muslim voices. Though, they’re the only ones that I’m aware of (that could be my own fault of course, for not noticing others).

        Whether they are many or only a few moderates, the silence and lack of sanctions or other action against brutal Islamic regimes is shameful for humanity and only stores up problems for the future.

        • Hogspace

          I condemn the Cult not every person caught up in it. Some followers of Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot etc. were more decent people I’m sure but the Group Think was still a series of awful disasters and mass murders. Islam is the same and the more it develops, the more people it ensnares, the more countries it comes to rule, the bigger the job is going to be. We waited too long with Stalin and Hitler in the West and it looks like we are making the same mistake again. The cost will be high.

          • saintlaw

            You have an overheated imagination.

          • Hogspace

            Are you a gay or bisexual man?
            Go visit Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Mauritania, Sudan, Yemen and come back with your eyes open

  • Tristan

    Declaring oneself as a non-muslim can earn you the death penalty!? How can this be allowed!? It would seem, given all that we have seen recently, that Islam is a punitive and loveless religion! What God would condone the murder of innocent people!? And don’t tell me Allah said so because I want empirical evidence first please!

  • Tristan

    Genocide.

    The UN definition of Genocide is:

    1)Killing members of the group

    2) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group

    3) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part

    “Never again”? Um….

  • Bill_Perdue

    Brunei is a former English colony. “In 1888 Brunei became a British protectorate and was assigned a British Resident as colonial manager in 1906. … Brunei regained its independence from the United Kingdom on 1 January 1984.” Wiki

    Another example of the awful role of anglican ‘muscular christianity’ imposing or in this case, reinforcing bigotry around the world. “When the missionaries came to Africa, they had the Bible and we had the land. They said “let us close our eyes and pray.” When we opened them, we had the Bible, and they had the land.” Desmond Tutu.

    As for boycotting those hotels, most of us couldn’t afford a cup of coffee, much less staying there. And I suspect that our calls for equality won’t get much support from the looter classes who stay there. However, demonstrations are definitely called for.

    • Rehan

      While there’s no overlooking the lasting damage caused by British missionaries in Africa and Polynesia, it’s worth remembering the difference between a colony and a protectorate: the present sultan’s forebears were the official rulers of Brunei, and Islam was always the religion of the people of Brunei.

      • Bill_Perdue

        Which is why I used the phrase ‘anglican ‘muscular christianity’ imposing or in this case, reinforcing bigotry around the world…”.

        • Lamia

          And yet you offer no evidence whatsoever that Anglican christianity has ‘reinforced’ bigotry in Brunei. It is unlikely even to have had the chance. You do understand that in many Muslim countries other religions are persecuted or at the least have to keep very quiet, do you? No, I thought not.

      • Frank Boulton

        Brunei has not always been an Islamic nation. Animism and Hinduism preceded Islam in Brunei.

        • Rehan

          I did not know that. But it’s been Islamic (and nothing else) for some centuries now, hasn’t it?

          • Frank Boulton

            Brunei may have been Islamic for many centuries but we should never concede to religionists that their persecution of others is justifiable, because the lands that they occupy have always practiced that religion. Europe, the Americas, Australia and New Zealand have not always been Christian and the Islamic countries have not always been Islamic despite constant assertions to the contrary. This point is very relevant to the rights of LGBTI people as it underpins the falsehood of the assertion that marriage has always been between a man and a woman.

          • Rehan

            Don’t get me wrong, I’m with you 100% on that, my original comment was in reply to the suggestion that Christian bigotry was at the root of the current situation in Brunei – which, though I am by no stretch of the imagination sympathetic to evangelism, seems a bit unfair to me.

          • Frank Boulton

            Sorry, if I sounded as if I was criticizing, your comment, Rehan. I agree with you entirely about the contribution of Christianity to the situation, which has developed in Brunei. I merely tried to give PN readers a little more detail. Homophobia has definitely been spread around the globe with Christianity and Islam. Homophobia tends to be found alongside other forms of repression. I’m agreeing with you and supplying further evidence to support our stance at the same time.

          • Hogspace

            Yes but Islam is where the Orthodox Church was in the 14th century. The CoE is about 20 years from joining civilization. The RCC about 2 centuries behind that.

          • J.

            … and how many centuries behind would you place the Free Presbyterian Church?!

          • Hogspace

            How long is since hundred of LGBT people a year were murdered by the FPC?

          • J.

            Admittedly it doesn’t murder LGBT people but it wants homosexuality to be wiped out – through religious ‘salvation’ rather than murder. It also advocates ‘therapy’ it believes will ‘cure’ homosexuality. It has publically declared that gay people are an ‘abomination’ and ‘perverted’ and in a Westminster debate, an MP associated with the church said that homosexuality is worse than child abuse. It wants us to be eradicated and although it doesn’t advocate murder as a means of doing so, it has contributed to exacerbating depression and suicidal thoughts – if not actual suicides – in gay people living in places where the church (and associated politicians) have influence. It could perhaps be perceived as living in 1814 rather than 2014, so that’s 2 centuries behind.

          • Hogspace

            Oh my take is simple. All religion is delusion and should be discouraged. Actively.
            But let’s be sensible and start with the mass murderers.

          • Frank Boulton

            I’m not sure that I understand your point, Hogspace. Greece, Russia, Georgia and Armenia (just to mention the ones that spring instantly to mind) are still Orthodox countries and not Islamic countries. The point still remains that homophobia has spread throughout the world as other belief systems, which were often more accepting of homosexuality, were viciously suppressed by advancing Christians and Muslims.

          • Bill_Perdue

            If “my original comment was in reply to the suggestion that Christian bigotry was at the root of the current situation in Brunei” is in reply to the fact that English and other christer bigots introduced and reinforced bigotry wherever they colonized to steal land and resources then you appear to have a problem with reading comprehension.

          • Rehan

            While I agree that religious bigotry is often more extreme in multi-religious societies, I admit I find it hard to comprehend why Christianity (for all its many faults) was brought into this discussion at all, since it was never imposed on Brunei or made its official religion at any stage. It seems to me that the present Sultan introducing Sharia in 2014 has nothing whatever to do with Christianity, Islamic-extremist bigotry seems perfectly capable of operating in its own horrible way.

          • Bill_Perdue

            I commented on the twin evils of European colonialism and European religious cults. The anti-LGBT bigotry of scum from the islamists in Brunei to the DUP presbyterians in Ireland is linked by the use of cultism to promote bigotry, racism and neo-colonialism.

            How is that not clear and relevant.

            Religion, all religion, is the enemy.

          • Rehan

            I agree with you about (almost all*) religion, but personally I feel these deplorable moves by a monarch whose family has ruled Brunei for several centuries can be ascribed wholly to Islam – the original ‘religion of the sword’ – and Islamism without reference to Europe/ans or Christianity.

            * Some Quakers and Sufis seem pretty decent people.

          • Bill_Perdue

            You’re wrong. Colonialism, racism, superexploitation and homophobia go hand in hand.

          • Rehan

            Fine. Think the Sultan’s actions in 2014 are the product of colonialism if you want to.

            *sigh*

          • Bill_Perdue

            Try to keep up. “In place of colonialism, as the main instrument of imperialism, we have today neo-colonialism . . . [which] like colonialism, is an attempt to export the social conflicts of the capitalist countries. . . . The result of neo-colonialism is that foreign capital is used for the exploitation rather than for the development of the less developed parts of the world. Investment, under neo-colonialism, increases, rather than decreases, the gap between the rich and the poor countries of the world. The struggle against neo-colonialism is not aimed at excluding the capital of the developed world from operating in less developed countries. It is aimed at preventing the financial power of the developed countries being used in such a way as to impoverish the less developed.” Kwame Nkrumah

            The Sultans full name is Sultan Haji Hassanal Bolkiah Mu’izzaddin Waddaulah ibni Al-Marhum Sultan Haji Omar Ali Saifuddien Sa’adul Khairi Waddien, Knight Grand Cross and the Most Distinguished Order of Saint Michael and Saint George.

            He even dresses like his colonialist mentors:

          • Rehan

            Oh, bless. So he’s an honorary GCMG, along with Vicente Fox, Henrik Prince Consort of Denmark, Gianfranco Fini and Richard Armitage, among others – similarly poor victims of neo/colonialism, no doubt. As with most heads of state he has a variety of other orders too from, among others, Morocco, South Korea, the Philippines and Thailand (those well-known colonialist states). So what?

            By your definition then presumably everyone who wears jeans dresses like their ‘colonialist mentors’.

            Personally, I think the Sultan, an absolute ruler and one of the richest men in the world, can well take responsibility for his own actions in 2014, without reference to Europe or the West. You seem to find that hard to comprehend, so we’ll have to agree to disagree.

          • Bill_Perdue

            One of the great tragedies of the LGBT communities is the rabid homophobia of the English ruling classes, which you attempt to deny and excuse.

            Your excuse mongering makes no difference whatsoever. People know about the rabid role of the English ruling classes in spreading racism and homohating to help insure their colonial rule and now their neo-colonialism.

          • Rehan

            Do you really think events in Brunei in 2014 are the results of the “English” ruling classes? Perhaps you also feel The Natives – even Muslim ones – are incapable of making decisions, whether bad or good, for themselves? How quaint.

            Those of us with a broader and less Anglocentric understanding of world history are aware that racism and imperialist/colonialist impulses can be found in all recorded societies, including those long predating the existence of England as a political entity; and that “homohating” too was by no means restricted to the English, or even the British.

          • Bill_Perdue

            You’re in denial about English homohating and it’s role in the colonialist and imperialist policies of the English ruling classes, which included slavery, the starvation of the Irish, the rape of half the world and state sponsored opium trading constitute one of the great tragedies of humankind.

            Your denial leads you to want to downplay the role of the English ruling classes as mad dog barbarians. You want to blame their policies on everyone but the English ruling classes. How typical. Tory much.

          • Rehan

            Not even remotely a Tory, just unimpressed by hysterical generalisations and clearly rather better at focusing on the subject at hand: an Islamic ruler in 2014 introducing Sharia law into his realm. (Of course, to you Sharia law is probably an “English” invention too.)

          • Bill_Perdue

            Your politics are the ridiculous Tory politics that deny the role of the English ruling classes in promoting racism, colonialism and homohating and which kept kept the world in the dark ages for centuries.

          • Rehan

            There, there.

            You know nothing of my politics so please keep your unbalanced observations to yourself. Believe that the “English ruling classes” rule the world if you like, but refraining from glib and asinine generalisations in discussions would also help.

          • Bill_Perdue

            I know that you’re a right wing nationalist who engages in excuse mongering for the ruling class. That’s disgusting.

            Happily your rulers no longer rule the world, just a few small islands and some neo-colonies like Uganda and Brunei. Soon they’ll lose Scotland, their colony in NE Ireland and hopefully, Wales.

            When the English empire is finally buried the world will rest better.

            Nighty night.

          • Rehan

            Dearie me. I think it’s clear you know nothing, in this particular instance, and in general too, alas. But full marks for coming back on-topic by mentioning Brunei, even if only in passing as part of the “English” neo-colonies: I’m sure it’ll come as news to them – and, indeed, everyone. You have such a high opinion of the power and influence of the Briti – sorry, English that it’s really rather flattering.

            Sleep well.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Denial and personal attacks are an admission that you’re losing and pathetic.

            I said nothing abut the English, just about the English ruling class. Do try to keep up, however difficult it is for you.

          • Rehan

            You’re in denial about English homohating

            Denial and personal attacks are an admission that you’re losing and pathetic.

            Oh, what joy self-knowledge must be! I’ve always argued against the belief that Americans can’t do irony, but sometimes it’s difficult.

            What a shame you know so little history, but then they do say ignorance is bliss.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Denial and personal attacks are an admission that you’re losing and pathetic. But you’ve always know that, haven’t you.

            Now babble on.

          • Rehan

            Loving the irony, thanks.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Denial and personal attacks are an admission that you’re losing and pathetic. But you’ve always know that, haven’t you.

          • Rehan

            Heh – you really really don’t get it, do you? You seem genuinely unable to see what you’ve written. Funny and sad at the same time.

            Repeating something doesn’t make it true you know, though it’s a technique used by extremists everywhere. But it’s getting dull now, so I’ll leave the last word to you.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Denial and personal attacks are an admission that you’re losing and pathetic.

            I’m repeating myself because you’re too dense and too boring and too right wing to bother with new replies.

          • Lamia

            You gave Brunei as “Another example of the awful role of anglican ‘muscular christianity’ imposing or in this case, reinforcing bigotry around the world.” And yet you offer no evidence whatsoever that there is any link to the homophobia in Brunei today, merely your ahistorical prejudice that it must have played some awful role in this because, well, because. Idiot.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Denial is common among those who want to forget the role of colonialism and neo-colonialism. Lacking any facts, they stick their heads in the sand. Good. That’s where we want them.

          • Lamia

            It is your claim about Anglican colonialism in Brunei and you haven’t offered any facts in support of your claim. Try again. You probably couldn’t evenplace Brunei on a map – hence your quote about missionaries in Africa. Fool.

          • Bill_Perdue

            Denial is common among those who want to downplay the role of colonialism and neo-colonialism. Lacking any facts, they stick their heads in the sand. Good. That’s where we want them.

            I’m repeating because it’s redundant to describe your right wing politics with more detail. Tory.

    • conan_drum

      Tutu did not invent that he got it from Chief Seattle a native American.

    • Hogspace

      Well now don’t be painting all gay and bisexual men as economically unsuccessful please!

      • Bill_Perdue

        I usually refer to the LGBT communities and although there are a few from the looter class among us most of make an honest living.

        Working for a living is not quite the same thing as being unsuccessful.

    • Lamia

      You’re an uniformed idiot. Brunei is not Christian and many non-western countries have managed to develop homophobic bigotry perfectly well under their own steam, contrary to what the likes of Peter Tatchell keep foolishly wishing was the case.

      • Bill_Perdue

        Who told you that? Someone named Margaret?

      • saintlaw

        He’s an uniformed idiot? What can that mean coming from the trotters of a thick pig such as yourself.

        • Lamia

          Which of these are you disputing?

          1. Brunei is not Christian.

          2. many non-western countries have managed to develop homophobic bigotry perfectly well under their own steam.

          By all means ask an adult to help you with your reply.

          • saintlaw

            By all means STFU you overweening self important windbag.

  • wildseas

    Boycott anything and everything to do with Brunei. Words fail me :-(

  • SpaceDandy

    A sad news for Muslim LGBT community in Brunei.

  • Truth

    If South Africa, for example, introduced a law to ‘stone the whites’, do you not think there would be international outcry? The absence of International condemnation of Brunei’s action clearly indicates the level of homophobia which still exists. We should be lobbying sympathetic governments to cut all ties with this disgusting dictatorship.

    • SpaceDandy

      The international still tolerate Saudi Arabia “stone the gays law”. It’s sad many Muslim countries have law to stone the gays. The media focuses on Russia or Uganda but forgets Muslim world.

    • Hogspace

      I think it is financial interests above human rights. Otherwise the US would be placing sanctions and banking controls on every Islamic country and freezing their assets. Do you think it is going to happen?

  • Tom

    Stoning is nothing less than torturing to death and should be denounced by every civilised government as such. If our government had any ovaries it should seize the UK assets of the Sultan and put out a warrant for his arrest.

  • Tom

    Tom Robbins is right. He said what I have very forcefully 10 hours ago

  • josepholeary

    Totally vile.

  • Mike

    So if I stayed with my Partner in a hotel in Brunei I could be stoned to death?

    • SpaceDandy

      Yes if the laws applies to foreigners. I don’t believe western government would allow it’s citizens to be stone to death in Brunei.

    • Sharksaver

      Yup. Also if you are a heterosexual couple with no marriage licence.

  • Nurhidayat

    Stop talking about us Brunei if you don’t know anything. Syariah law isn’t cruel or barbaric, it will instead catapult our civilization to new height, Insyallah. You westerners are just jealous of us and our wealth. You are afraid that if we implement this law the GDP of Brunei might surpass UK or even Germany, that’s why you try so hard trying to bring us down, but we Bruneians can see through your evil plan.

    Europe is sinking economically and America is reverting back to a primitive tribal state. The solution of this world is Islam. Islam brings peace, stability, progress and advancement. In the west your women run around naked and are raped every second, but in Brunei women are treated with dignity and respect. This is just the beginning, our goal is to make Brunei a center of Islamic propagation, we hope that countries from China to India to Japan can see the light and become Islamic.

    To sum it all, It is our country and we have the right to do as we please. If you don’t like, don’t come and don’t invest your money here, it is that simple. The truth is, the world needs us more than we need you. The western world fears that with Syariah and the blessing of Allah we Brunei will emerge as a global superpower.

    • Yesh U R

      Less drugs and more therapy is called for with your ranting. Delusional!

    • Rehan

      Why have “the blessings of Allah” been withheld till now?

    • Sharksaver

      You are very delusional, and extremely prejudicial towards those you lump together under the label ‘westerners’. Why is it that anyone who disagrees with the ideas Brunei is introducing is ‘evil’?

      And actually, there are rapes in Brunei, too… it’s just that under syriah, I sincerely doubt there will ever be another successful rape conviction. This is because, for a rape charge to stick, there have to be 12(?) independent witnesses – and not just any witnesses, they have to be muslims, and have to be regular mosque-goers, and have to be male – who can testify that they actually witnessed with their own eyes the ACT OF PENETRATION. In other words, a woman has no chance of convicting her rapist unless she is raped in front of a crowd, and a crowd who all stand passively by watching attentively as her rapist’s penis enters her vagina.

      Please do tell me if I’ve got that wrong…

      But as you say, in Brunei women are treated with dignity and respect.

    • saintlaw

      The free West will crush fundamentalist Islam. As it always has done when its got too big for its boots.

      You pathetic closet-case.

    • PissMoMo

      You are so wrong with the way you see Syariah. Name an Islamic country with Syariah that is, in your words “bring peace, stability, progress and advancement”. If you are still living in Brunei and with this is going, my best of luck to you, not sure if you can still allow to drive legally or out on your own or even allow to work in the foreseeable future. Your husband going to have a free ticket to get another wife or wives, divorce (dump) you like old clothes.

  • Amer

    Technically speaking- there is no such thing in Quran about stoning homosexuals. The stoning death is for anyone who ‘cheats on his wife’ men or women. Those who sleep with others before marriage (gays or not) are whipped 80 lashes !!

    As horrible as it is either way, it’s important to be accurate. All abrahamic religions aren’t exactly ‘Human Rights’ friendly at the end of the day!

  • Beb

    I think its time Human Rights organisations stepped in here. Also other governments. This is brutal and cruel. No one should be punished in any way for just being who they are.
    This is wrong and needs to be stopped now before someone gets hurt or “murdered”!

  • hoople5

    So why don’t the gays just move to another country? What’s the big deal? Sean Penn said he would leave America if he didn’t get his way so move then. It’s not like other perceived abuses aren’t occurring throughout the Middle East, but throw a couple gays in and the whole gay world and gay wanabees rise up. Not unlike Sterling in LA, does anyone think he is wrong in his beliefs, NO, just hypersensitive liberals.

    • Rehan

      “Just move to another country” – yeah, because that’s always so easy, isn’t it?

    • Caspar

      So if we threatened to stone you to death you’d just do us all a favour and go and live somewhere else?

    • Ashley

      Gay people moving to other countries doesn’t solve the problem because new gay people are still going to be born there and forced to grow up under oppression.

    • saintlaw

      STFU you ridiculous closet-case.

  • conan_drum

    the Sultan today confirmed the law, which will apply to both Muslims and non-Muslims, will be phased in over a two-year period from tomorrow.

    Hold on. I thought Sharia laws were only meant to apply to Muslims
    UK/EU people please take note.
    I wonder if they have closed down the Daru salaam amusement park as In Islam pleasure is not allowed.

    • Sharksaver

      Nope, the code has aspects that apply to everyone – and in fact a whole raft of specially-drafted clauses SPECIFICALLY for non-muslims!

      As for Jerudong Amusement Park, that’s been almost completely derelict for years (although it’s currently undergoing a revamp), so that certainly doesn’t pose any sort of ‘pleasure temptation’ :-)

  • Hj Hashim

    In Brunei, we have a different system so such misunderstanding from the rest of the world is widely expected. To understand us, you should learn our national ideology, ‘Melayu Islam Beraja’ (MIB). MIB has 3 philosophical pillars, first, we Malays are the supreme race in our country. That doesn’t however mean we will discriminate other ethnic groups of people, but our race is to be accorded a superior status. Ethnic minority must not challenge our superiority.

    Secondly, Islam must be the dominant religion in Brunei because it is the only true religion. Islamic values must penetrate all aspects of life among Bruneians so we can build a ‘Negara Zikir’, or ‘nation blessed by Allah’. Other religions can be freely practiced but should be restricted so to minimize immorality.

    Lastly, because we Malays are a superior race of people, our esteemed cultures and values must be maintained, that include the monarchical system, a central component in our histories. We give our Sultan absolute power and he in turn, will lead to the people towards prosperity and glories. It is what shaped us for the past few hundred years.

    I hope this explanation will clear up all misunderstanding towards my country.

    • Sharksaver

      You’re a ‘superior race’? Other religions are sources of ‘immorality’? Now, where have we all heard that tune before…..

    • Rehan

      I hope this explanation will clear up all misunderstanding towards my country

      It certainly confirms a great many prejudices.

    • mollysdad

      Islam is a false religion and Muhammad was a camel piss drinker.

    • saintlaw

      Your country, as you well know, is a shithole. And you one of the pellets it has excreted.

      We in the free West mock it at every opportunity it presents – which are manifold.

    • PissMoMo

      Superior race, in what way? Malays still committed adultery, stole, rape, lies, they went to mosque and still committed all these immoral acts with Quran holding in their hands. The Malaysian side fighting over to use the word “Allah” already defines a new meaning to stupidity, Brunei seems to be afraid of losing out. Apply the syriah to the Royal family first and see how this is going to hold-up. Your thinking to defend the MIB definitely needs a lot of “superior” genetic engineering to your brain.

    • Fasdunkle

      oh look, a nazi

      • J.

        Dr. – you sure it ain’t a Dalek, from Dalekland?

    • Lamia

      Well, we are certaiin future nly unlikely to suffer from misunderstandings as to what Bruneians are like: delusional bigots.

  • Stephen West

    phased in does that mean they will just stone a few to start off with see how it goes then eventually stone the lot of them.

  • Brian Blake

    Perhaps the extreme Christian conservatives who generally hate Islam will now find a common bond.

    • Meryl Dorsey

      They have for a looooooong time O_O
      This isn’t just a one man/country action.

  • Bill Otten

    “These people, (& I use the term very loosely!), don’t even deserve the title of human. Here’s a place that you would really like to live! (NOT!) Why the hell would ANYONE live by such utterly barbaric rules! This is a peaceful religion? I think not! These people, & the religion they follow are animals!”

  • Right-Minded

    The insidious Sharia law, well thank god its the other side of the world, oh wait – its creeping its way into this country too, only a matter of time. Estimates vary, I give it thirty years.

  • Miss w

    Hilarious. Im from brunei and I studied in the UK and graduated with a BEng in chemical engineering. Have any of u even read the contents of Syariah Law? Ur so focussed on the punishments, have not even seen the pre requisites or the conditions leading to the punishments, should it even be carried out. Stoning to death? Thats barbaric. And thank god its not in shariah law. Our Sultan is lovely and is so kind hearted and this Law will protect the people- you all would know this if u even bother to look up the contents and not just listen to what MEDIA says. Lol.

    • saintlaw

      You are a creeping worm fit only to be stepped on.

      • J.

        She studied in the UK – obviously the universities in this country need to be investigated as they’re not doing anything for visiting Muslim students to quell such delusional views they’ve acquired from living in their homelands. Actually, UK Universities invite radical and extremist Islamic figures to speak to audiences of their students, so perhaps they’re only encouraging delusional beliefs.

        UK education should be able to open the minds and widen the perspectives of students visiting from backward countries. It is a concern that some of these students take up residency in the UK if they’re unwilling to accept a modern British society.

        • mike

          Hahahahaha mind ur own business. Leave us bruneians in our country alone! We respect ur country and ur people when we visit it. Im a bruneian and yes we know everyone in brunei cos its a small country. Respect our religion and no the sultan did not invent syariah law. The law came from a book which contents came from Allah.

          And ok for u to get sentenced to death for adultery.. u need four witnesses in that room who actually see actual SEX going on. Whos crazy enough to continue doing it with four other witnesses? Unless ur out doing it in public and want people to see then dont u think thats something that CAN be considerer shameless and punishable?

          Lol all these people r so over getting hyped over law which has existed long time ago.

          • Fasdunkle

            “Respect our religion”
            Nope

          • J.

            I’ll second that.

          • Rehan

            The issue is more why your sultan feels the need to now introduce a legal system that, as you say, ‘existed long time ago.’

            And no, not all people respect our countries when they ‘visit’: look up Omar Bakri Muhammad, and remember what happened to Theo van Gogh and Lee Ryder, among others.

          • saintlaw

            Your religion is a joke only a moron would take seriously.

    • J.

      “Our Sultan is lovely and is so kind hearted”. So lovely and so kind hearted that he declares gays are to be stoned to death. Murdering despots aren’t lovely and kind hearted – any sane person realises that.

    • Fasdunkle

      It is a disgrace that british universities allow monsters such as you through their doors

  • Azi

    If u can name the clause and the condition and how it is unfair, then we will listen. This is all repeating what someone said or heard of what they think they know about Syariah Law. Our King has a heart of gold and hes provided us with more than what we deserve. Civil law or man made laws ie british law still exist in our country but did u know the punishments are just as bad? Anyway if ur not a criminal then have nothing to worry about. How would we prove ur gay anyway. And hello u can still get excused from the death penalty by a number of ways. Too bad ur all too judgemental and narrow minded to open and read syariah law. Its beautiful and come on I studied in Warwick (funded by our king) and worked abroad and am back and I still love my life here. Dont wanna get punished for having outside marriage sex, well get married then! Dont want to get amputated hand, dont steal above a few thousand and if u do make sure noone sees u! So many requirements to actually see the punishment u think its that easy? And if u wanna drink, go ahead! Dont involve a non Muslim. Duhhhh. Non muslims can drink and have outside marriage sex all u want

    • J.

      You are mentally ill if you think that is acceptable. Blame your Sultan and your country for indoctrinating you with such views in your childhood and youth. They have caused you to be blind to reality as an adult and have made your mind closed and ill. I pity all Bruneians being born into and raised under that regime of religious intolerance and brutality. Hopefully someday your compatriots will realise the truth and rise-up against your barbaric authorities.

      • pro syaria

        No dear I am not mentally ill. I don’t consume alcohol or drugs and I dont drown myself in tv or opinions of people. I do know you all wanna be pro crime and your good and bad and whats wrong and right is so grey and subjective. Well we are clear with the few things that are wrong. Adultery is wrong. Incidental Murder is wrong. Robbery and killing someone is wrong. Respecting people and being kind is right. Speaking the truth is right. But if theres not enough evidence then the criminals wont be punished by Syariah law. They will refer to civil law then. So stop being narrow minded and read up your FACTS first

        • Fasdunkle

          And apostasy, is that wrong too?

        • J.

          HAHA! narrow-minded? Moi? Don’t think so, honey! I’m not the one defending a regime that stones gays to death. Nope, I sure ain’t – that’ll be you. Thanks for making me laugh, though.
          Ciao, ciao, don’t do anything I wouldn’t do!

        • saintlaw

          Worth repeating, syariah law: poostains daubed on toilet paper.

    • Fasdunkle

      Leaving islam is also punishable by death in brunei.
      Maybe in the west we should make converting to islam punishable by death.

    • JackAlison

      yup it makes sense to me
      da BIIIG ALLAH KING he holy holy holy
      I cant see him
      but i know he dare
      why?
      because he is
      but where is he?
      he in a cloud?
      he up my ass?
      he under a cushion?
      or
      maybe hiding behind a fatwah?
      yeah
      so for all your secular training you would stoop to superstition
      and u think heinous cruelty is appropriate?

      ALL 4 MAKE BELIEVE

    • saintlaw

      It’s great our contempt upsets you so much. You contemptible credulous little slave.

  • Hellosnackbar

    For a long time the Slutan of Brunei seemed to be a fair and reasonable person.
    He’s now using Islime to enforce his rule?

  • JackAlison

    I used to work in Brunei some years ago and it was quite gay friendly, no big whoop. However, there were stories going around from some of the ex pats who worked inside the palace that in many of his parties he had a liking for barely legal and very underage lil boys who were made up like young women with makeup and lipstick kinda like the Afghans Bacha Bazi boys (see Frontline or panorama documentary?)

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/22/dancing-boys-of-afghanist_n_548428.html

    apparently this was what he was really into and the polygamy marriages were all show. I didnt really think very much about it at the time. But with the stoning edict it makes perfect sense since some of the religious nutters may be blackmailing him. Hes incredibly pro british and an anglo phile and loves to fly his pink (yes its PINK) 747 to heathrow every week to visit harrods amoungst other things

    • Fasdunkle

      Did you go to the Panaga Club?

      • JackAlison

        No
        dont know what that is?
        do tell

        • Fasdunkle

          It’s an ex pat club near Kuala Belait, been there for years, I used to go in 1981 – I think it was owned by Shell

          • JackAlison

            No I was much later when Prince Jeffrey(yes its hilarious) its like something outta the lion the witch n the wardrobe.was opening up the country in competition with his holiness whom this article is about.And there were lotsa scandals the sorta beverley hilton steamy racy sexy lucky b8tches joan coillins types scandals happening in the US when the 2 brothers were busy buying up rodeo drive in LA

  • Lady Tanya

    ok who is for getting a bucket of stones and going to 1 of this nasty mans hotels walk up to the booking in desk and say i am hear for my stoning

  • Solsticewitch13

    BARBARIANS!!! Imagine a world without islam

  • Fluido

    So why does we have the UNO? It is so powerless and unuseful like a cold old potato. They make resolution over resolutions and nobody cares about. What a shame!

  • Michael

    Someone set up this boycott Brunei Facebook page and the Bruneians are attacking him all around.

    https://www.facebook.com/boycottbrunei

    Let’s show your support by giving this page a like.

  • Alex

    The best part of it is, the British Army is paid to keep a battalion in Brunei, funded by the King in order to provide him, his family and the Kingdom protection, and also there to help suppress any potential rebellion against his autocratic rule.

    We are actively helping to defend these laws as mercenaries for hire. And the UK government’s response to this so far has been “we need to make sure the laws don’t ‘impact on our soldiers’ (but screw everyone else)”.

  • Hafiz Daud

    My fellow Bruneians, we do not need to entertain these people. We are a noble race with dignity. Just like what is enshrined in our country’s constitution, the Malay race is worthy and well respected by the world. Our race is not only supreme, but far better and more honourable than the Whites, who think themselves as advanced but actually they are savage, racist barbarians. We are taught in schools that our race has finer qualities than most others out there, so we don’t need to degrade ourselves and go down their level to debate with them. The truth will soon be revealed.

    Whatever they say, Brunei will always be the best country and our race, religion and monarch will prevail. Stay strong and together we will beat back these European and American sub-human scums.

    • Liam

      You can put your fingers in your ears and shout all you like, subjecting people to such prolonged and barbaric executions for consensual adult sex is the behavior of savages.

      • Ethan

        The demon they worship commands them to kill people by throwing rocks, so they think it’s a “good” thing. Their Sultan is a criminal for instituting this law, he should be brought before the international courts and tried for his crime.

    • Lamia

      the Malay race is worthy and well respected by the world.

      Most people have never heard of you, let alone respected you. You and several others here are doing a great job at giving a lousy impression of your country and its ‘culture’, however.

      • saintlaw

        Several other sock puppets that is.

    • Rehan

      Our race is not only supreme, but far better and more honourable than the Whites

      How truly fascinating that you choose to express these … erm, original statements in – English. One would suppose you have no language of your own that is important enough for such sentiments.

    • saintlaw

      I cant wait til we invade Brunei and crush squeaky little termites like you.

  • http://islamsfatalflaw.blogspot.com/ BobSmith101

    Coming to a European no-go-zone faster than a speeding Muslim.

    Speak up now. Or it will soon be too late.

    Sharia makes no exceptions – and even just being close is bound to ruin your day.

    Islam is 7th century reality destroying a multi-culti 21st century warm and fuzzy dream.

    Wake up. Smell the Mullahs. Grasp reality. Speak up and vote – or get ready for Brunei West.

  • Rids21

    We should ban him from visiting his stately home in Osterly west London

  • gemmell

    why is everybody shouting nazi and holoco$t? wtf has that garbage got to do with the story? or is it just commenters that are getting paid their shekels?

    • torqueville

      “Holocau$t”?!

      Are you denying the genocide of Jews in the Holocaust during World War II?

      • gemmell

        The only genocide the jews have had dealings with are the ones that they orchestrated

        • torqueville

          That’s ironic, if you’re not also denying that…

          …”Upon the rise of Adolf Hitler, gay men and, to a lesser extent, lesbians, were two of the numerous groups targeted by the Nazi Party and were ultimately among Holocaust victims. Beginning in 1933, gay organizations were banned, scholarly books about homosexuality, and sexuality in general, were burned, and homosexuals within the Nazi Party itself were murdered. The Gestapo compiled lists of homosexuals, who were compelled to sexually conform to the “German norm.”

          Between 1933 and 1945, an estimated 100,000 men were arrested as homosexuals, of whom some 50,000 were officially sentenced.[1] Most of these men served time in regular prisons, and an estimated 5,000 to 15,000 of those sentenced were incarcerated in Nazi concentration camps.[1] It is unclear how many of the 5,000 to 15,000 eventually perished in the camps, but leading scholar Rüdiger Lautmann believes that the death rate of homosexuals in concentration camps may have been as high as 60%. Homosexuals in the camps were treated in an unusually cruel manner by their captors.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_homosexuals_in_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Holocaust

  • masteradrian

    Why is there not a huge uproar against the anti-gay laws in brunei as there was when African bigot-states were creating, installing and implementing the same sort of laws?

    Brunei is a bigot-state, equal to the African states were torture-the-gays-, hang-the-gays-, kill-the-gays- laws were introduced, and implemented by authorities!

    The bigot-boss of Brunei is equal to all the African bigot-bosses referring to themselves as leaders, religious and non-religious, and all should be haunted down to the core of their existence….. their alst breath, their last heartbeat!

    Why is it that there is no uproar against the bigot of Brunei?
    Because perhaps he’s the one with the money?
    Because he sounds like a civilized person?
    Sure, he is as sick and as backward as all others who deny all people equality!

    In my opinion all who cooperate with laws that are are promoting, endorsing and or enforcing in-equality should be punished, and that were countries have in their Constitution that ALL are equality and must be treated equal to ALL others (like the Netherlands) people and companies cooperating and or doing business with countries like Brunei should be either be denied existence (make them go broke), or be banned from the country!
    If a person does business with a state like Brunei that person should be prosecuted for un-constitutional actions and activities, terrorism that is, and be punished as such!
    My opinion!

    NO MERCY FOR BIGOTS!
    THEY SHOW NO MERCY FOR HOMOSEXUALS!
    AN EYE FOR AN EYE, A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH!, A LIFE FOR A LIFE!

    NO TURNING CHEEKS ANYMORE!

  • Chris Brammer

    And Muslim nations wonder why The West sometimes seems antipathetic towards
    them? Stone-age behaviour in the 21st century is not acceptable. As a
    country we need to signal this by very strong diplomatic measures. It
    should be made clear that The Sultan of Brunei is no longer welcome here
    as a guest.

  • Tony

    Have a look at this—-unbelievable….
    He’s worth $19.5 billion (dont know what that is in pounds)…. and seems like a kleptomaniac!
    Talk about double standards!!

    http://www.bornrich.com/sultan-haji-hassanal-bolkiah.html

  • Jordan Bassior

    The gay community needs to realize that Islam is its mortal foe, and that the Left as a whole will sell gays out in an instant if it supports the larger objective of tearing down the West in the delusion that something better will supplant liberal capitalist democracy.

    Look at it this way — the Right doesn’t like you. The Left supports the people who want to KILL you. Which will you choose?

    • saintlaw

      Put it this way – you’re a pig’s bladder full of hysterical wind.

    • Ethan

      Speak for yourself, I consider myself to be right of center, I don’t dislike homosexuals, in fact I think they suffer from institutionalized social and economic discrimination by way of the tax code and family law & if you are conservative too you’d think it was wrong, no matter what your personal likes or dislikes were.

      I do agree with your point though, Islam wants them dead… I mean look at some of these Bruneian’s on here, going on and on about how they will cleanse their country as if it was the most rational and normal thing. The whole thing is freaking nuts I’m in awe… they are basically rationalizing and justifying murder based upon who you love and are attracted to. I’m in shock.

  • Blossom61

    And so, the new dark age begins…

  • Guest

    You guys act like this law is being implemented in America. America wants the whole world to follow there ideologies and way of life. Every sovereign nation has the right to do whatever they want as long as the people governed agree with it. The people of Brunei, the vast majority of them are not opposed of this law at all. This does not mean the sultan is going to go hunting for gays around the world and executing them. Brunei have there laws and you have yours. Let them be as they let you be. America trying get involved with everyone in the world. Just let them be. Hes no threat to you. And it is very disturbing to see people comparing this to the holocaust. 6 million Jews didnt die to be compared to and reduced to a law that permits stoning of people guilty of homosexual acts. Get over it, its not your country. Worry about legalizing gay marriage and rights in your own communities as it is your country.

  • Madian Jinzarli

    You guys act like this law is being implemented in America. America wants the whole world to follow there ideologies and way of life. Every sovereign nation has the right to do whatever they want as long as the people governed agree with it and does not violate international law. The people of Brunei, the vast majority of them are not opposed of this law at all. This does not mean the sultan is going to go hunting for gays around the world and executing them. Brunei have there laws and you have yours. Let them be as they let you be. The west trying get involved with everyone in the world. Just let them be. Hes no threat to you. And it is very disturbing to see people comparing this to the holocaust. 6 million Jews didnt die to be compared to and reduced to a law that permits stoning of people guilty of homosexual acts. Get over it, its not your country. Worry about legalizing gay marriage and rights in your own communities as it is your country.

    • Ethan

      Firstly, I don’t think Americans are perfect, but I’m glad that you think Islamic countries are responsible to live by international law. Stoning homosexuals to death violates international law, persecuting those who change their faith also violates international law.

      Refer to the universal declaration of human rights articles 2 & 18, so glad you agree.

      • Madian Jinzarli

        Firstly we have to agree on something. The stoning of homosexuals law works like this. If two or more people are caught in a homosexual act willingly and there are at least 4 witnesses then they get death penalty by stoning. Under sharia law there is no persecution to who change their faith or have a different religion. I don’t know where you got that from. Maybe your mistaken for the punishment for blasphemy. But under sharia law religious freedom must be maintained.

        • Ethan

          In the article it says declaring oneself a “non-Muslim” and insulting the prophet or the Quran will get you killed too. Killing people who declare themselves non-Muslim isn’t “maintaining” religious freedom. So looks like your opinion that the law, which is derived from the Quran, is at odds with international law and basic human rights is pretty insulting to the Quran, so you are in the same boat as the homosexuals if you express this in public.

        • saintlaw

          ‘We’ don’t have to agree on anything. How could we? You are wrong. Shariah law is filth. As your ‘reasoning’ makes evident.

          You will be called out for this at every opportunity. The shithole state/s you defend mocked, ostracised and sanctioned by the free people of the West.

          That riles you? Good.

    • saintlaw

      It’s weird how sensitive you pigdicks are.

      Sorry, hard as it might be for your primitive brain to process, but the civilised world doesn’t recognise your arbitrary distinction between gay people and something you call ‘homosexual acts’.

      You are an apologist for a regime every bit as disgusting as that which persecuted Jews – and gay people too.

      But you’ve cause to worry. If you think the West are involved now wait til you see how this plays out.

  • http://littlenotesfromparis.blogspot.fr/ Rita

    Every cloud has a silver lining – this one might be that at least for the short attention span these “stars” seem to have, they might lay off Israel. Looking especially at you, Steven Fry. Howard Jacobson calls people like you: “Ashamed Jews” in “The Finkler Question”. By attacking Israel you are siding with those who would have you killed twice over – for being gay and Jewish>

    • saintlaw

      “Looking especially at you Steven Fry”. The squeaking self regard in this statement is lolarious.

      Oh yeah ‘The Finkler question’. That crap novel a crap novelist wrote wherein he fantasises about killing Jacqueline Rose – a mind compared to which his is null.

      Jacobson is, like you, an apologist for the ethnic cleansing and continued oppression of the Palestinian people. He isn’t capable of shame – which is as well for him else he’d die of it.

  • turbodaddy

    I say the world without all religions would be will be a better place.

  • me

    How about stone the ugly people then him and that man in drag of a wife would be goners!

  • Michael Ellis

    Makes no sense – none at all. Next thing we will hear that the parents of any gay people will be put to death too for procreating gays. If they can’t have straight kids they should not —– you know what I mean. Let Crimea alone and lets deal with the inhumanity in Brunei.

  • Fasdunkle

    lol

  • J.

    ” … don’t be surprised one day if our people detonate bombs in London to punish your malice acts. Imagine watching Westminster burn, that would be fun.”
    Wow. A terrorist on here. Pink News – please pass his post onto the relevant authorities. People like that mean it.

  • Ethan

    The penalty for spewing such diatribes in the west should be getting stoned to death by gays and lesbians.

  • J.

    One of them said that Bruneians are “British-loving” and “anglophiles” – it would appear not, especially when they are on the wrong side of an argument. What a warped and dangerous mind that Bruneian above (Mohammed) certainly seems to have. Moderate Islamic voices are silent whilst the type of views expressed above are quite common amongst Islamists. ‘The religion of peace’ – lol, yeah sure it is. His threats only create more enemies of Islam.

  • Lamia

    Well, obviously it ought to be investigated… problem is, the cowardly idiots running the British police are more likely to charge the person who reports it for religiously aggravated racism or some such nonsense than actually investigate someone talking about blowing up British citizens.

  • saintlaw

    It’s just a troll on the internet, deary. FFS.

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