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UK: Police appeal for information over ‘nasty’ and violent attack on bi teen

  • Lee

    Fucuking scum I hope these vile people are caught very soon – take care Richard if you read this love lee X

  • Craig

    Utter cowards. Speedy recovery Richard. Take care x

  • Craig

    I’m amazed and saddened that this behaviour still exists to this extent in the UK. My experiences are insignificant and can not compare to Richards ordeal ordeal but I work as a Paramedic in the NHS and were subjected to really horrible homophobia in 2002 and it was actually a manager that approached me and suggested the only real option for me was to transfer to another base 42 miles away, which I did. Equality and diversity has come along way in the last 10 years in the NHS and the UK as a whole, but even last year I once again experienced homophobia at work and still Management brushed it under the carpet after arranging meetings with action plan even after the small minded low life sent me an email of apology. The latest experience left me with anxiety which resulted in me suffering with a heart arrhythmia that left me needing a pacemaker and 4 months off work I am 37 now and thankfully things have moved on dramatically for the younger generation, although we’ve still a long way to go. I only shared my experiences on pink news because one thing I have got out of this, is how important it is to talk and share any worries with you’re loved ones. Take care

  • bob

    They’ll just get a slap on the wrist.

    Britain has, though failed policy, and socioeconomic forces beyond my understanding, managed to raise a scum class that doesn’t respect the rule of law.

    • It comes down to the parents. I don’t care what anyone says, a parent is directly responsible for how their kids turn out. Yes, some are more difficult than others, and environment plays a large part in forming a person, but the parent is still ultimately responsible for allowing that to happen.

      We cannot blame society as some kind of scapegoat for lazy and ineffective parents. If it were the fault of society we would all be the same, because we are all raised in the same society, surrounded by the same media, to a large extent.

      However much parents might want to shift blame and responsibility away from themselves, they are ultimately the ones responsible for instilling what is right and what is wrong, clearly the parents of these wastes of skin have failed miserably in that regard.

      • Mike Dalgarno

        I partly agree – I also think it’s the surroundings that causes people to be the way they are.

        My brother and I are totally different. I have never been in trouble with the police, while he was always in trouble. So if it was purely my mum’s fault then wouldn’t I be in a similar situation as my brother?

        My mother tried everything, but he was a disobedient little ****

        I also think the problem is cause by who you hang around with. Wanting to fit in with a crowd. It could be that something has happened in their life which caused this. It could be that they have a medical condition of some sort, such as ADHD.

        Everybody is different. And the way they act could be down to a number of factors…not just one!

        Yes, parents can be partly blame, but it’s very right-wing to put full blame on them!

        • While surroundings and environment do play a part, this is still under the control of the parent.

          If a kid is getting into trouble hanging out with certain people, then it’s the parents job to make sure they are steered away from those people.

          If music or media is encouraging them to act out, it’s the job of the parent to remove that influence.

          If a kid is committing crimes, it’s the responsibility of the parent to stop them, to report them, to show them a different path.

          However much I look at it, and however much I agree that environment and influences do play a part, it always still comes back to the parents. Either action or inaction is usually found to be the cause.

          Every kid acts out in one way or another, but it’s the job of a parent to do everything they can to make sure their kid turns out right, regardless of the environment and regardless of the influences of the wider world.

          My parents moved our family out of London and started new to ensure that we would have a better chance in life. They could see the potential negative influences and the lower chances of us turning out right. These are the kinds of sacrifices parents SHOULD be making to benefit their kids, but they rarely seem to.

          Far too many parents are selfish these days, believing they should have a full life just as they did before they had kids. That’s not reality, and that’s why so many kids are growing up to become dysfunctional and antisocial. Just look at all the parents in their 20’s who are adamant that they should be able to go out every weekend, get drunk, get laid, party like they did before they had kids.

          Raising children should be the first priority for all parents, but too many think they have a “right” to carry on as they did before they had them. These people do not make good parents.

          • Mike Dalgarno

            Again that is an extremely judgemental and simplistic approach to parenthood.

            It would be great if, as parents you can move to a better place. Not every parent can afford to do that. There has even been programmes about parents who want to get out of estates to make a better life for their children, but can’t due to money or lack of support from the council/government.

            Trying to stop a child from doing something that they aren’t allowed to do can be near on impossible. My brother was grounded for 2 years after he continued to disobey and leave the house and play with mates he was banned from seeing. My mum even nailed the windows shut…yet he would still find a way out.

            My mother took my brother by the hand and sat with him in class for nearly two week because of his constant truancy. But he still went truant and left with no GCSEs.

            Don’t get me wrong, there are some parents where it is questionable, and the points you have raised would relate to them, These would be the ones that the Daily Mail love to publish in their papers and use as examples of the ‘kids-of-today’. But like benefit scroungers, these people take a very small percentage of society yet it’s blown out of proportion by the press.

            Tarring all parents who have “bad” kids is just as bad as stereotyping all gay people to be camp

          • Please don’t put words in my mouth. I have stated more than once that I believe that in the MAJORITY of cases it can be traced back to the actions or inaction of parents.

            However you look at it, kids are not born into society, they are born under the care of their parents. An eight year old is not hanging around on corners with thugs selling drugs,

            There HAS to be a point at which a child becomes aware of these negative influences, and it’s the job of the parent to mitigate that and enforce positive role-models and influences.

            A child doesn’t go from being an angelic and innocent kid to being a rebellious criminal overnight, this happens through the parents allowing those influences to grow and gain dominance in that childs life.

            And it’s nothing like the comparison you ended with. These are young people in the care of their parents, your comparison makes absolutely no sense at all.

          • Mike Dalgarno

            We’ll have to agree to disagree, because I don’t think it’s a majority. I do agree that some parents shouldn’t of gone that route…but it’s no where near a majority.

            I agree that people are born into a society and react by their full surroundings. Inside and outside of the family home. But there is only so much parents can do as well…I also remember that rebellion of kids was also a common thing. You tell a child not to do something…they’d do it.

            And I stand by my comparison…you have labelled all parents of bad kids as failures and fully to blame. (You did this in your first post). Labelling someone without actually knowing them or their situation is just as bad as stereotyping a gay man as camp, a black man as a criminal or a rich person as a tax evader.

          • “I do agree that some parents shouldn’t of gone that route…but it’s no where near a majority”

            A majority of those with kids who become criminals, NOT a majority of parents in general. Again, you are twisting my words and presenting something I didn’t say.

            Being camp is not a criminal act. Being yourself is not something to blame on someone else. You are now attacking me and almost calling me a racist with that last comment, and that is appalling.

            I’m done with this discussion, you’ve sunk to a low there that I don’t want to entertain.

          • Mike Dalgarno

            Wow!…now who is twisting words?

            When did I call you racist? I said that you are labelling everyone into a specific category without knowing them or their background. That’s what I have an issue with.

            I compared your attitude to characterise parents of ‘bad’ kids the same as someone who stereotyping as those examples above.

  • And

    I am disgusted that this incident has not been reported on either of the local Johnston (Tartan Tory) Press Titles – the Blackpool Gazette or the Lancashire Evening Post

  • Truth

    People who commit homophobic attacks – both physically and verbally – are really attacking themselves. They are punishing that part of themselves they fear most: their same-sex attraction. If they express their inner-hatred outwardly in this way, they believe they are putting people off the scent about themselves. The ‘far right’ (like the Nazis and the BNP) always contain closet cases. As I know from experience … “Show me a homophobe – I’ll show you a closet case”.

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