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President of Uganda signs Anti-Homosexuality Bill into law

  • Mike Dalgarno

    What a sad day. My thoughts go out to Ugandan LGBT…for they way they are treated is about to get a million times worse.

  • Rumbelow

    Gay and lesbian people will now be hunted down, a terrifying situation for them, what Museveni has done today is insane , it is unforgivable and ungodly.

  • Gerry1

    Time for international sanctions and the complete cessation of international aid.

  • Carl

    What is the world going to do about it?
    Are those religious leaders that preach love and compassion for gay people going to condemn this law? Are politicians going to stop trading with Uganda? Is there going to be an economic embargo like those seen in Cuba, Iran or North Korea?

    • I think far too many governments are currently distracted by the potential fallout from the Ukrainian revolution. Response to this would have been weak at any rate, but right now all major international governments are watching Russia extremely closely and trying to work out what Putin is likely to do.

  • Symmo

    All financial aid now needs to cease – time to pile the pressure on

  • Randall

    Yes, it is true we should continue to lobby and put pressure on Uganda to try to overturn this barbaric law. However, we should never forget the genesis of the horror now taking place in Uganda and in other countries. The kindling was laid in large part by so called Christian evangelicals from the West and the spark was given to the politicians to act on their fear and ignorance and start this fire. I am both heart-broken and outraged!

    • Gareth

      Do you know where I can see this documentary in full? I’ve been waiting for it to get a general release for ages…

  • Truth

    So, his request for scientific assistance from Obama was complete nonsense as is their Constitution which guarantees equal treatment for all. The International Community needs to act swiftly to condemn these disgusting idiots.

  • Jock S.Trap

    So Stop ALL aid the UK gives to Uganda. If humanity isn’t what they stand for why are we supporting them?

    Enough already!

    • Robert W. Pierce

      We stopped aid in 2013 apparently, little good that it’s done.

      • Dtnorth

        The US ponies up $400 million per year to this dust-bowl.

        Lets see there response if that is stopped.

        • GulliverUK

          Museveni said it was around $450m, although I see idiots like the BBC using the figure of $400m.

    • Benny Hunter

      Not every Ugandan supports this bill. What about the ignorant Ugandan subsistence farmer who knows nothing about the politics of the capital. Should the millions suffer because of the cruelty of few?

  • Ian M

    So the Winter Olympics over, gay marriage (even though not law yet) is SO last year. Where have our marching, whistle blowing, banner waving homos gone? Pull ur fingers out of ur PC arses, THIS is the thin end of the wedge, THIS will spread from country to country. The world is in a very perilous state, don’t forget we had a religious idiot say the gays caused the UK floods, if your “church” tells you its then it must be true. Condemn or condone this but for F88ks sake get off the PC FENCE

  • Bo

    Has olefins been learned by this stupid man from South Africa this is apartheid idiot! Stop every penny of aid !

  • Gareth

    I feel that all the western nations have to take some responsibility for this. The seeds of this situation were sown during the age of empire, and have been propagated by an expansion of evangelism from the US as LGBT rights have begun to win support.

    I may be wrong but I don’t believe that cutting aid, ending diplomatic ties or imposing trade boycotts will do much other than add to the scapegoating of LGBT Ugandans or lead to accusations of cultural imperialism. Ultimately I think engagement is better than exclusion, so that we can offer a loud counter narrative to the anti gay rhetoric that has been used to justify this bill.

    We need more leaders like Desmond tutu, more LGBT Ugandans being afforded a platform on the world stage, better asylum processes for those who need refuge from these laws and attacks on this law through the UN and via the AU, who have been oddly silent on these recent events. It’s a terrible situation right now but I’m always careful to remember how quickly things changed for the better in the west. It’s not inconceivable that the same can be achieved in uganda, hopefully sooner rather than later.

    • Bobbleobble

      Yes, a new policy of appeasement whilst hoping the rest of the world does something about it, that’s precisely what we need. Let’s send the message that it’s fine to pass any kind of law against LGBT people, the UK will turn a blind eye.

      We’ve been engaging with Uganda for 50 years. We’ve been providing them with a loud counter narrative and they’ve ignored it. And if you’re going to wait for the UN if the AU to get involved, well all I’ll say is don’t hold your breath.

      • Gareth

        Morally and ethically I agree with you. Practically I just don’t think they care what the west thinks. Much of this law is based on the idea that homosexuality is a western disease imported into Africa by white people. In a country where there is overwhelming support for this bill, any aggressive action will probably be seen as confirmation of that.

        I’ve also seen a number of LGBT activists in uganda urging the west not to cut aid as it will damage their ability to counter the anti gay movement which, we shouldn’t forget, has stemmed from the US. Personally I think that’s where our battleground should be. I’d also like to know which western based companies operate in the Ugandan market and how they’re responding to this new law with regards to equality policies that they’re advocates of in the west.

        • bobbleobble

          If they don’t care what we think then how will engagement and a counter narrative help? Again you argue appeasement and inaction and I don’t see how that helps gay Ugandans. In fact it sends out the message to other anti-gay governments that no matter what it says, the UK doesn’t care about LGBT rights.

          • Gareth

            The counter narrative has to come from within in order for it to gain legitimacy. And no, I’m not advocating we do nothing. We clearly both want the same outcome for Ugandan LGBT’S but whereas you see a continuation of aid as appeasement, I see a cessation of aid as abandonment of a situation that the colonial powers themselves created.

            Redirecting support to specific LGBT charities in uganda and fighting against foreign sponsors of this bill on our home turf would help but this a complex social and political problem, there is no single, easy solution which will win the minds of a nation where homophobia is rampant and pernicious.

  • We need a new international law, one which states clearly and categorically that any leader (elected or unelected) that institutes laws which attack sections of their own society based on religious belief, political affiliation, race, gender, disability, sexuality… is a criminal offense.

    This law should already exist, but it doesn’t. There is no excuse for there not to be an all-encompassing law criminalizing any political act or decision that harms, or has the potential to harm, free individuals.

    This would cover everything from criminal laws like this one, to the acts we have seen in Ukraine. There is absolutely no justification for a leader or politician to attack minority groups in their country, and it has to be outlawed.

    Those found to be breaking such a law should automatically have travel bans imposed for all government officials, their embassies closed or restricted, their assets frozen, and then be given the opportunity to reverse the decision, or, in the case of extremes like Assad, Yanukovich and other violent despots, an arrest warrant should be issued.

  • Halou

    The West has legitimate reason to “impose” itself in this matter because it is westerners who have made a decades long career out of having their lack of morals written into Africa’s laws. What Obama and other western leaders are trying to do is clean up their own mess, but evidently Ugandan leadership doesn’t like the idea of responsible government.

    “He added: “I do not understand why a man can’t be attracted to a beautiful woman and instead be attracted to a fellow man.””
    Ignorance becomes him.

  • Dtnorth

    And this is the best William Vague the British Foreign secretary can come up with:

  • dave

    Innocent drinks chain of good advert – ie Coca Cola.

    They send money to Uganda, but not to help LGBT people


    this is a sad day for all LGTB of the world. It looks like the world has gone back to the dark ages. dose this man forget that when he was growing up that there was segregation and white only in some parts of his own country, and that blacks were treated as sub humans, there are still the KKK and Nazis in the world, and he would rather have them in the world and in his own country than us friendly LGTB

  • GulliverUK

    As far as I know direct bilateral support aid (that which goes from the UK government to Uganda’s government) was suspended due to concerns over corruption and fraud of funds, back in Nov 2012. Several countries suspended aid until 2013. it says the UK government has suspended bilateral government support indefinitely. This is the 2013 bit, and at the bottom on pp3, but provide aid through support partners. It’s very valuable work. That said, none can go to LGBT people now because even asking for an HIV test would imply you had broken the law, and also force any NGOs to report you to the police within 24 hours or face imprisonment themselves. Evangelicals might be heartless, but they aren’t brainless, they knew just how to construct a law to cause maximum harm, and like Hitler, force unwilling members in society to join in that harm, or face harm themselves.

    Uganda’s main exports include coffee, cotton, tea, tobacco, maize, beans, etc. Agricultural stuffs, which “could” be boycotted. Travel bans are possible, visa restrictions, making very clear Ugandan gay people will be treated fairly in asylum applications – all possible. And which international companies do business there, which of them might be open to fighting this? I did watch a Coke advert before the conference started.

    It seems we need a web site with all the scientific data on gay biology (links to all the articles for quick reference), and Museveni said they could review the law in the light of more scientific data, but also worryingly said if the law conflicts with the constitution they would change the constitution! Uganda is also signed up to international treaties on human rights – they won’t be able to change those, and are in direct conflict there. His point was that the science he received suggested there was a biological factor involved, but then he erroneously stated that most of it was nurture. A Ugandan living in the states wrote a good article pointing out it was in fact the Ugandan government who had failed to nurture equality, respect for diversity and differences, and that seems a profound truth, and where they failed, the Evangelicals from the US, having seen mounting failures in their own back yard, went to Uganda and proselytized their version of Christianity and their extreme ant-gay hate. If ever a law was needed, it is that proselytizing hate should carry a 14 year jail term. I hope that Scott Lively gets found guilty. He was an alcoholic by 12, a drug abuser, homeless, came from a terribly violent childhood, and then found his “god”. I’d say that his mind is clearly fcuked up, he makes even Sarah Palin look slightly sane, and he should be receiving treatment for his psychosis. His Christian belief hasn’t made him a kinder, nicer, loving person, but exactly the opposite. This is where religion is directly responsible for deaths and harm and misery – and there ought to be a law against that.

    • EricGlare

      It is completely repugnant to use mental health stigma to ridicule homophobes particularly in a LGBTI forum populated by people who as a group have an excessive rate of mental illness. Suggesting Lively’s religious belief is indicative of psychosis trivialises the most extreme of psychological distress which profoundly effects people’s ability to function in society.

      I have been struggling with my bipolar type II and I am easily distress by articles like this but then I come across your comment equating mental illness with hateful ideas. I’m struggling to keep hope and you are taking hope away. You have, probably unintentionally, proselytised hate for mentally ill people. Please try to be “kinder, nicer”.
      I am following the mental health stigma watch principles described here:

      • GulliverUK

        Eric, sorry, you are right, and I apologise. Mental health issues affect about 1-in-3 at some point in their life, and for some it’s a life-long problem. 1-in-4 experience some sort of issue during a year, there is the problem of self-harm, etc. Scott Lively is personally responsible for a great deal of those problems in our community, not just in the US, but how that affects here in the UK, and as we’ve just seen in Nigeria, Uganda and elsewhere. He is one of the most prolific haters of LGBT on the planet. He would be quite happy to have the lot of us gassed. I’m wondering if his entrenched driven hate is directly related to that alcohol and drug abuse, the despair of being homeless for a decade, and whatever else he might have got up to in those times, including because caught up in the abuse of Evangelical Christianity. There are many others who have abused alcohol, drugs, been homeless, and not gone off the rails like Lively. Some probably became Evangelical Christians and did not do what he has and is doing. What it the physical abuse? Not really, lots of kind caring people have suffered abuse, even sexual abuse, and dealt with it.

        I cannot fathom how his mind works. It might seem strange but I understand you perfectly, and I have my own reasons for that, but let’s not get in to that. Suffice to say when black dog is approaching or upon you it’s my belief that rather than cursing and swearing at him you should stretch out a welcoming hand, pat him on the head, tell him you love him, then tell him to sit quietly on the floor whilst you get on with your life. You should never give up hope, ever, because whilst it is understandable, and it sometimes seems hopeless, that is precisely the wrong-thinking of depression, a cyclic spiral of thoughts feeding off each other. Interrupt the initial thought, take a new path, a new thought pattern, a different approach, . Recognise the sign and re-direct is what I think works. It may or may not work for everyone, and I think it will only work if you learn to recognise the approaching signs (I figure most people already recognise those signs), and it may only be half a solution to some, but it’s worth a try.

        I certainly didn’t mean to imply mental issues lead or result in hateful behavior – people without any issues are quite capable of being hateful, and the people I know who have some issues aren’t hateful people, quite the reverse. In Lively’s case I was, cack handedly, postulating that his substance and alcohol abuse, over a long period, and at the young age (he was an alcoholic at 12), when the brain is still developing, may well have led to a permanent state where certain reasoning parts of his brain are, literally, destroyed by former abuse. There are some alcoholics who reach this state. Lively seems to lack both empathy and self-awareness. We must have empathy for others, and an awareness of ourselves, and others, and how what we do effects or affects others – I’m wondering if he really knows that. Literally there are hard-line right-wing religious fundamentalists who show that they have these traits and don’t suggest the things Lively does, they show empathy, and an awareness of their words, and soften their stance when they see what affect it has on LGBT. But Lively seems to feed off each action, going further and further and further. He shows no remorse for what he’s already done. I would suggest that in his case, the correct words I could have used were ‘sociopath’ or ‘psychopath’. I don’t know if that just repeats the original offense, but I thought I owed you a full reply. If he is capable of empathy and has self-awareness, then he’s some other type of monster – and I don’t know how to describe that.

        • EricGlare

          Yes you have made an apology which I accept but at the same time you have written another essay to justify why you needed to second guess someone else’s situation and the rationale in their head -essentially unhelpful finger-pointing that obscures the essential fact that a whole nation of many discriminators have increased their punishment. A scapegoat does not fix the problem.

          Your theme of “lots of kind caring people have suffered abuse, even sexual abuse, and dealt with it” is still suggesting that there are some good people who SEEM to cope well and then there are bad people who get anxiety, depression or some other antisocial issue.

          • GulliverUK

            I’m trying to understand what could possibly lead to someone being like Scott Lively, nothing more. He is not unique in how bad he is, sadly, but rare. Scott Lively is a very bad person.

            I don’t associate someone’s mental state with them being a good or bad person – that would be a ridiculous assertion for anyone to make, and is patently untrue. I also don’t normally associate mental health issues with bad behavior.

            I’ve expressed myself badly, as evidenced by your clearly hurt feelings, and no wish to upset, so let’s leave this conversation here, and I will go and brush up on my copy of ‘how to lose friends and influence’.

  • Cal

    This is a black day for GLBT rights.

  • Jones

    He’s just signed his arrest warrant for crimes against humanity, perhaps not now but in the future this action will come back to hurt him.

  • Bill Nedra Bill

    Well no surprise here, Hitler did a similar thing in his time…What I now need to see is civilised nations making a pariah out of the wicked Ugandan government! Since they claim they are doing it for God, all foreign sponsors of Uganda are to stop their aids and let us see how pleased their god is with their inhumane action against homosexuals!

  • Clive s

    Interesting to see on the “Ugandan Observer” papers website,that their journalist queryed it,saying does`nt it fly against the Ugandan constitution.His reply was that we can “re-write it!
    I do feel for gay Ugandans ,facing a whitch hunt from now on,talk about hell!

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