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  1. VooDooNoel 6 Feb 2014, 3:54pm

    Thsi is the same Senator Jim Walsh who complained in 2009 that he couldn’t call gays ‘fairies’.

    1. … and, presumably, black people the ‘N’ word … and people from Pakistan, the ‘P’ word …, etc, etc. Once a delusional, self-hating bigot always a delusional …. etc.

    2. but you can’t call him a homophobe in Ireland anymore. i’m worried that this censorship stinks of putins Russia.

  2. Dave North 6 Feb 2014, 4:04pm

    “You are homophobic for discriminating against me”

    Yep. That sounds very viscous indeed.

    FFS. We are just defending ourselves from hateful HOMOPHOBIC old goats like yourself.

  3. You are confused. The ‘dangerous, vicious elements’ are within the catholic priesthood and those who believe all the hate-filled, homophobic nonsense they pedal. When are these vile, old bigots going to curl up and vanish …?

  4. So calling someone a homophobe results in damages being awarded but calling people dangerous & vicious gay ideologues doesnt? Freedom of speech cuts both ways and I feel perfectly free and perfectly correct in saying: JIM WALSH IS A HOMOPHOBE.

  5. Christopher Coleman 6 Feb 2014, 4:23pm

    There are ‘dangerous, vicious elements’ in every section of society.

  6. I’d love to know what he think’s about on a daily basis .

    Oh yeah that’s it ….Gays ……

    This man seriously needs to get out more and see the world .

    1. Funny that, isn’t it? WHY do these people obsess about homosexuality … day in, day out? One can only think it’s because they have ‘issues’. I don’t obsess about heterosexuality .. because I’ve accepted I’m gay. So … following that logic, why would a supposedly ‘straight’ person obsess about ‘the gays’? Hmmmm …?

  7. Dorian Gray 6 Feb 2014, 4:35pm

    Totally agree. Gays are often very intolerant even to each other within their own community.

    1. That There Other David 6 Feb 2014, 4:45pm

      I love you Dorian. Always remember that.

    2. John Antrobus 6 Feb 2014, 4:49pm

      If you want to see intolerance, you should visit my local church where I was the organist until I got suck of them.

      1. That is an unfortunate typo

      2. suck?
        ha ha! That made my day John!

    3. Time to go check that portrait you have hidden in the attic Dorian..

    4. Frankie Dean 6 Feb 2014, 8:15pm

      It is time all LGBT people gave back to the church gits the intolerance that they receive !!

  8. That There Other David 6 Feb 2014, 4:44pm

    Another one busy nailing himself up as a martyr whilst screaming hate. At least we now know who Norris was aiming his speech at.

  9. I’m so glad we have people like David Norris to speak out against Jim Walsh. The Seanad might just prove its usefulness yet.

  10. He is absolutely right. We should allow Nazis to say all sorts of things about gays, blacks, Jews and non-Aryans and then no one should say they are homophobic or racist. Just look how well the policy of appeasement worked for everyone just before World War 2. I mean, if we allow people to say all sorts of things about gay people or any group, what is the worst that could possibly happen? And while we are at it, we could persuade the English to say all sorts of things about the Irish, on the same level as this man says things about gays. I see no problem with that, so I am sure he won’t.

    1. You mean as was seen in the front windows of rooming houses of 1950’s England:

      No Blacks
      No Irish
      No dogs

      1. I presume that would be a blanket prohibition on black Irish Wolfhounds?

    2. “First they stopped us from responding, then they called us rapists and paedophiles”

  11. Derek Williams 6 Feb 2014, 5:57pm

    Being heterosexual is not a virtue, it is the way you were born. If you marry an opposite sex partner it is as a direct response to your inbuilt instincts. Same goes for gay people.

  12. Derek Williams 6 Feb 2014, 6:03pm

    Don’t worry Mr Walsh, if we find any “dangerous or vicious elements” within our community, we will take care of them ourselves.

    Now, how about you take care of dangerous and vicious elements in Irish society that are a direct physical and psychological danger to LGBT minorities? As a 5-10% minority, we have a great deal more to fear from you the 90-95% than you do from us.

  13. Yeah right, the gay community are so vicious and dangerous. We issue death decrees when people like him denounce us, we drive planes into buildings – all in the name of gaydom – we train our gay armies around the world to blow themselves and innocent people up, we spend billions of pounds every year on our gay army, our gay scientists are researching the best weapons to protect the gays. We stop heterosexuals from having equality – because they’re not normal – and pass laws to turn heterosexuals into second class citizens.

    I’ll never understand how people as stupid as this senator are given power. But maybe he’s not stupid, maybe he’s just dangerous and vicious.

  14. Robert in S. Kensington 6 Feb 2014, 6:39pm

    Well, Senator, what about the vicious, dangerous elements among the RC clergy and hierarchy who looked the other way for decades while the molestation scandal was erupting. Covering it up and moving priests to another parish to avoid suspicion and prosecution. Bloody hypocritical bigot and the Vatican now has the gall to tell the UN it has no moral authority to interfere in its internal affairs.

    I predict a nasty campaign by the RCC and the likes of this man and his ilk as the referendum approaches for equal marriage.

  15. A blatant filthy homophobe, oh wait you can’t call a homophobe a homophobe in Ireland because they get upset that it will prevent them in their evil homophobia crusade.

  16. ““dangerous, vicious elements within the gay ideological movement” in Ireland.”

    Can the Senator be a little more specific so we can check whether or not his claim has even a grain of truth to it, otherwise most people will assume he’s making this up to smear gay Irish people.

  17. Senator Jim Walsh would make a great Barney Rubble casting if they ever make another Flintstones film, just the right nose, slightly twisted set of the mouth and no neck, a natural Barney, he’d be great.

  18. Poor closet case .

  19. Frankie Dean 6 Feb 2014, 8:11pm

    The church and government has had its way for too long getting away with blatant discrimination and spreading lies aimed at encouraging hatred towards LGBT people their is too much pussyfooting it is time all LGBT people started fighting back against religious groups And shame on RTE

  20. If Senator Walsh really wishes to identify “dangerous and vicious elements ” within an ideological movement, he might like to look at what is being done to gays in places like Uganda where “Christian” fundamentalism merrily supports the beating, imprisonment and killing of gay people. THAT is the context in which this debate should be considered. Does he not realise that within the very broad spectrum of differing Christian groups, there is a poisonous section which would happily kill people in the name of Christ? This is an issue which the mainstream Christian organisations have avoided addressing. They do themselves no favours by refusing to fully distance themselves from those elements. The bad news for Senator Walsh is that the “dangerous, vicious elements” are actually to be found within organised religions.

  21. Homosexual ideologues fling the slur ‘homophobic’ about , just as the Nazi’s branded people ‘”Untermenschen” .They take part in marches called ‘pride’, wave about their rainbow swastika and intimidate anyone who does not appreciate their homophilia .Their hijacking of the Olympics is a through back to Hitler’s take-over of the Berlin Games .The reason ?, this so-called ‘anti-gay’ law which protects children :

    Criminal Code: Sexual relations and other action of a sexual nature with a person under the age of sixteen (16), Chapter 18, Article 134
    Sexual intercourse, buggery [‘muzhelozhstvo’] or lesbianism, committed by a person over 18 on a person admittedly under 14 is punishable by limitation of freedom up to three years or deprivation of freedom up to four years [R1.2].

    1. Drinking again huh? Ray-pissed.

    2. Ray, there is readily available medication for your condition, go buy some. Sell your laptop if you have to, it’ll only add to humanity if you can’t spread your stupidity on the internet.

    3. Alex Saville 8 Feb 2014, 6:52am

      Well said, Ray

  22. Russia’s corrupt anti-gay propaganda law silences anyone who speaks positively or neutrally about gay rights: “First they us gay people responding, and then they called us paedophiles and rapists.”

    1. “First they stopped us responding, and then they called us paedophiles and rapists.”

  23. Yes, the terrifying gay ideology of equality.

  24. Notice how politicians violating the human rights of millions upon millions of people want other people to be reasonable. It is appalling and sociopathic.

  25. Glad to hear the Irish economy is looking up. :|

  26. “dangerous, vicious elements within the gay ideological movement”

    Jim Walsh’s statement reminds me so much of the tactics of abusive priests who would try to discredit the young kids they’d been raping and torturing.

    Homophobes hate to be exposed and to be called what they really are just as priests who are child rapist’s and torturer’s hate to be exposed and called abusive paedophiles.

    Trying to gag their victim’s by discrediting them is just another part of the ongoing bullying and sadism that homophobes and child abusers mete out to their victims, fortunately more and more people see through this nowadays.

  27. Same old same old. We can call you anything we like because our faith blah blah blah. Well freedom of speech cuts both ways you tiny minded little bigot!!!

  28. He is quite right to warn of such elements.

    The typical, hate filled comment sections on this website clearly prove he is correct.

    It is sad that so many gay people seem to have such blind hatred for anyone with a different opinion from them, and woe betide anyone who lets human biology inform their views on human sexuality.

    1. Dave North 7 Feb 2014, 11:09am

      When that “opinion” deliberately sets out to harms us, we respond.

      Just deal with it FFS.

      It’s called self preservation.

    2. “Dangerous”? Really?

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