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NI Attorney General: The UK Supreme Court’s pro-gay ruling forces Christians to be ‘complicit’ with sin

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  1. How on earth can such a bigoted person be allowed to take up any position of authority, let alone become NI Attorney General? Is there nobody better?

    It just shows what a hopelessly backward place Northern Ireland is.

    There’s a lot of truth in the old chestnut about arriving airline passengers being told to set their watches back 300 years…

    1. Sinead Harkin 31 Jan 2014, 12:40pm

      A backward and bigoted place,couldn’t wait to see the back of it

    2. Oh here we go, mindless bias drivel against a country and its people, usually by people who have never been here or those who left and took their bitter attitude with them. For your information Northern Ireland is a fine wee place to live, yes it has it’s problems…… But can you name a country that hasn’t???? It’s like me bad mouthing the rest of the UK based on the actions of the Tory Party or UKIP?

      1. That There Other David 31 Jan 2014, 2:09pm

        I go there a lot, since I have family in Antrim. Gerry’s description is pretty accurate IMO.

      2. I split my time between Northern Ireland and the Republic. Gerry’s and Sinead’s perceptions are similar to mine.

        Of course every country has problems. But that doesn’t stop us considering objectively the rights available to LGBT people. Northern Ireland offers significantly fewer rights, including on marriage, adoption and blood donation.

        I also remember that when Chris Grayling made similar (but milder) comments, he had to retract his remarks, lost the role of Shadow Home Secretary, and was kept out of the Cabinet until 2012. Do you expect John Larkin to be penalised in any way?

        And while much of the Tory party is still anti-gay, it was a Tory-led coalition which brought marriage equality to England and Wales. Your point might stand if the DUP had done the same. But as we all know, they cynically and inappropriately used the cross-community process to stymie any change.

        1. Fewer rights than the rest of the UK, I meant – the comparison you drew in your comment. I have plenty to say about the lack of rights in the Republic.

      3. Sinead Harkin 31 Jan 2014, 4:03pm

        You like Northern Ireland Shaney,I don’t.We’re all different,my brother likes Metallica,I don’t I like Queen.He likes Guiness,I can’t stand it,I like cider he hates it

  2. It forces nothing. Why can’t people just try and be nice to each other? Why do some religious people think it’s their “right” to discriminate?
    What makes these people think they are so special that they can act like complete d*cks to other people?

    Of course they’d rather have the ability to force LGBT people back in the closet or have us live in the shadows as it were. Second class citizens.

    The B&B couple discriminated. They were found guilty. They didn’t accept Civil Partnership as the equivalent of marriage and they only saw marriage as 1 man 1 woman. So either way the gay couple were (excuse the pun) screwed.
    If you are religious, fine… BUT why should your religious views trump human rights and the rights of other human beings? People can be Gay, Straight, Bi, Trans, whatever. What business is it of anyone else and why should that determine if they get served or not? It’s not harming anyone.
    Forgive me while if I don’t give two sh*ts for people like this. lol

    1. Ah, the always hypocritical religious nutters, screaming about their right to discriminate, then crying about laws that they deem “discriminate” against them!

      The irony here is incredible.

      The root of this story is actually a little more complex than many seem to see, especially this nutter. They are terrified that they no longer have the power or right to discriminate against people, they are losing control and they are so scared they’re wetting their pants.

      These people only have the faith they have because it allows them to feel superior to others, it allows them to judge others and place themselves higher, as though they are something special. Take away this sensation of superiority and they fall apart like wet paper bags.

      NI is moving in the right direction, slowly. It’s going to be a backward place for decades to come, but the religious are losing power all over the world and it will eventually happen there too.

  3. Darren Yehuda 31 Jan 2014, 12:22pm

    So, if someone who eats Kosher opens a seafood restaurant, they should be able to deny service to someone ordering shrimp because that is deeply sinful. Give us a break!
    If you open a business where people will come to sleep, you can’t refuse service to people who come to sleep! This isn’t complicated stuff really.

    1. lukefromanada 31 Jan 2014, 1:21pm

      I think it would be more along the lines of refusing to serve them because they are on a same sex date. if they were kosher they probably wouldn’t offer shrimp in the first place, and if they did they wouldn’t then refuse to serve it, why would they? But lets say a server who has deeply held religious beliefs refusing to serve shellfish? Wouldn’t last long there, but but I totally get what you are saying

      1. Darren Yehuda 31 Jan 2014, 3:03pm

        The point is they ARE offering a place to sleep and they are refusing it. Much like my example of someone offering seafood and then refusing it. If these people are so concerned about who sleeps with whom, then shouldn’t be in that business as the person who has trouble with shellfish shouldn’t be in that business.
        Is that clearer for you sweety?

  4. So yet again a Christian wants special rights for Christians. Its OK to discriminate if you are religious, but not if you find it icky? Hmm..

    Listen up.. Religion is a choice, it doesnt, and shouldn’t give you a pass to be a bigot.

  5. Robert in S. Kensington 31 Jan 2014, 12:31pm

    A devolved assembly seems to have made matters worse in NI. The DUP run rough shod over equality rights and get away with it. About time Westminster revisited the situation. What galls me is DUP bigots sit in the Westminster Parliament voting against LGBTI rights, all 8 of them voted against equal marriage in England and Wales, yet the mainland has no say in the internal social affairs of NI.

    1. That There Other David 31 Jan 2014, 2:11pm

      Threaten to kick them out of the UK IMO. The Republic doesn’t want them, the rest of the UK doesn’t want them. The EU probably doesn’t want them either. Let them see that unless they learn to grow up, drop the tiresome tribal rubbish, and start voting in politicians that look to the future rather than the past then they are not welcome.

  6. And yet he thinks that an anti-gay ruling that would force gay people to live in a christian lifestyle would be okay?

    The mind beggars belief that someone as stupid and bigoted as this man can be an attorney general in the UK.

  7. ““some boor who for his own obscure reasons does not like homosexual people should be able to deny services to them as an expression of his own dislike; ” is a text book definition of a Christian bigot

    This man needs removing from his post – he cannot possibly do his job

    1. Exactly – as though the reasons supposedly found in “scripture” are any less boorish or, for that matter, obscure (if anyone can point me to the chapter and verse that contains the proscription of same-sex bed-sharing, I’d be grateful).

      1. Leviticus apparently prohibits a male with another male who together lay lyings of a woman, whatever that is supposed to mean, the verse is incomplete and because of this nobody today can know for sure what is actually being condemned .

        I imagine it might be condemning a husband who has sex with one of his male slaves in his wife’s bed, the marital bed.

        A woman’s bed was certainly considered sacrosanct and elsewhere in the text can be found a fuller list of who may or may not lie in her bed and when. There is advice on what procedures must be taken regarding the various bodily secretions that might inadvertently soil a woman’s bed.

  8. I find this comment extremely hypocritical, because these small number of Christians who are so against homosexuality, are already living a life full of sins that they have become complicit with.

    Let’s quote some bible:

    “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.” John 13:34

    By treating ‘the gays’ like they do, then they are sinning themselves.

    1. You’re right, but theologising to this particular breed of fundamental christian is about as much use as telling someone who smokes that it might kill them. They already know it, deep down, but they don’t want to listen. It makes them feel less ‘sinful’ when they turn us into the ‘sinning’ scapegoat.

  9. Christopher in Canada 31 Jan 2014, 1:07pm

    Meanwhile, his underwear has not only poly/cotton in it, but elastic as well. STONE HIM!!!!!

    1. Sinead Harkin 31 Jan 2014, 1:26pm

      Stone him if he’s had a bacon butty,the same old story do as I say not as I do.

    2. That There Other David 31 Jan 2014, 2:13pm

      If only he would get stoned occasionally. Might loosen the old bore up a bit.

  10. Northern Ireland is more than welcome to leave the Union and join the Republic.

    1. Another reason why England should become an independent country.

  11. lukefromanada 31 Jan 2014, 1:15pm

    being religious and believing something does NOT give you permission to treat others anyway you want. its very simple, you run a public business you have to treat the public the same regardless. the exception would be if they were making a mess or vandalizing your business but you cannot just because, and the reason has to be valid. what if it was an interracial couple?

  12. My religion dictates that I should punch pug ugly attorney generals in the face repeatedly.
    But the law prevents me from exercising my religious right – will he defend this right for me?

  13. Mumbo Jumbo 31 Jan 2014, 1:44pm

    As a “staunch Catholic” this man should consider if he is complicit in the mass child-rape and its cover-up.

  14. ‘Sin’ is a man-made concept … (unless you can produce God in court to give evidence). As such, it is TOTALLY irrelevant to non-believers. Therefore, I respectfully askthe NI Attorney General to keep his private beliefs to himself and to allow the rest of us to get on with our lives, uninsulted.

  15. It ‘forces’ “Christians” to be tolerant and non-judgmental. Very much what Jesus practiced and preached.

    1. Well Said!

  16. This guy is the chief law officer of NI. Whatever religeous beliefs he holds, he is not entitled to take them into account in his role as attorney general. He is there to interpret a d give advice about the law; if he is unable to do that, he has to go. His behaviour is not acceptable.

  17. Your pig ignorant religious bias doesn’t trump my civil rights . If you think it does then you’re in the wrong job – conflict of interests much?

  18. Luke 17:34

    Viewing the King James Version. Click to switch to 1611 King James Version of Luke 17:34.

    I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

  19. Why do these people use their so called believes as a shield to hide their fears and ignorance dehind Did God not say Love one and another as I do, or love your fellow man !!

  20. Christopher Coleman 31 Jan 2014, 5:59pm

    Practicing Christians and other devout types in business are providing services (no questions asked) every day to people who are in adulterous relationships, in second or third marriages while the former spouses are still living, abusive parents, wife beaters, thieves, drug abusers, etc. Do they feel compromised by this? The Law permits all manner of things that I find morally offensive. I live with it. So should these complaining fools, whose only achievement is to bring into ridicule the religion they profess to support.

    1. Ah yes – but is the bible an actual ‘rule’ book or just an old novel to prop up bigotry? Seems to me it’s definitely the latter.

  21. Hardly a surprise is it? :-(

  22. According to the bible, the Christian deity ordered the murder of women and children, and the rape of virgin girls. Why isn’t the NI Attorney General speaking out to protect people from having to serve Christians who worship a child-murdering, child-raping supernatural creature? Why aren’t the sane people being protected from crazy Christians who sit together talking to themselves and pretending to eat human flesh and drink human blood? Oh, that’s right. The NI Attorney General is one of those crazies.

  23. David Skinner 4 Feb 2014, 2:15pm

    Mumbo Jumbo the mass child rape you talk about was predominantly men sodomising boys.

  24. David Skinner 4 Feb 2014, 2:21pm

    Come now. Chyrmorgen B&B at St Juste, Cornwall only allows lesbians, feminists and bans not only straight people but transgenders as well.
    Hamilton Hall, Bournemouth ban straight people and lesbians ( except about one day a year) . There are gay clubs, and hotels up and down Britain that discriminate against normal men and women. I would not want to be judgemental but the word hypocrites comes to mind immediately

  25. David Skinner 4 Feb 2014, 2:29pm

    I agree with the Attorney General. Peter Tatchell has spelt out precisely the gay agenda.
    98% of the population are going to be forced out their sexual restraints and incarcerations and ” liberated” into sado – masochism, bondage, adultery, polygamy, polyamory, incest, paedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia and all the other letters of the alphabet: LGBarebackingTQIJKinkLMNOPosssingRSUVWXYZ and probably more. The alphabet will have to be extended. We and our children are all going to be forced into practices and relationships or be forced to leave for Russia.

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