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US: Utah Governor defends decision to spend $300,000 to attempt to reinstate same-sex marriage ban

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  1. Is there any historical precedent to a Governor using public funds to block anti-slavery laws?

  2. Midnighter 23 Jan 2014, 8:22pm

    Every time these wingnuts lose a court case, they roll out the “activist Judge” cliché. Their inability to grasp reality is gobsmacking.

    The entire preposterous complaint is another familiar tactic whereby they deflect criticism by getting in there first: this is a mugger loudly accusing his victim of assault if he resists.

    Far from being a dictator, this is a democratically elected judge, doing his job which is defending those provisions of the constitution which were explicitly included to protect citizens from arseh0le politicians. Unsurprisingly, said arseh0le doesn’t like it when the system works.

    1. Federal judges in US are not elected by voters. They are appointed by the President with the consent of the Senate. What happens is that the senators from a state provide a list of reputable lawyers or state judges and after some vetting, the President passes on the candidates to the Senate, which then votes on the candidates.
      The “activist” judge was actually suggested by Utah’s Republican Senator Orrin Hatch, a Conservative Mormon. So, he’s no activist. He’s just a judge doing his job.

      1. Thanks for the clarification. My point remains: these people only gain the post through the workings of democracy, albeit through the elected President in this case as you point out. Any bias – in what is after all a process governed by by the limitations of law – can therefore be expected to represent the aggregate national will of the people.

        The Governor may cry about bias in the judiciary, but his party is not above shamelessly exploiting that bias to subvert the spirit of the US constitution, which is how we arrived at these anti-rights laws in the first place.

        It may not be perfect democracy, but it is still democracy.

  3. Christopher Coleman 23 Jan 2014, 9:28pm

    So glad that US politicians can spend hundreds of thousands on issues like this, while millions of US children live in poverty. It’s an excellent public confirmation of their commitment to Christian morality and Family Values.

  4. Well you see what happened was this, the Governor got his hat and put a stone in it then put his face into the hat and then a figment of his imagination told him to go dig up two gold plates and then hate LGBT people, hang on, no sorry that was that other fraud who dreamed up the Mormon cult that hates LGBT people. Might as well put the cash in a hole in the floor and burn it for all the good it will do for him or Utah.

    1. Do you realize there are multiple Mormon gay rights organizations fighting both the governor and the church leadership on this? Affirmation: Gay & Lesbian Mormons. Mormons Building Bridges. Mormons For Equality. Mormons For Marriage. Your comment painted with an inappropriately broad brush, and risks alienating the wrong people.

      1. All organized religious groups are worthy of being tarred with the same. Every single one of the major religious groups in America (and elsewhere) have been hateful, bigoted, even EVIL in their own definition of the word. Why the hell any self-respecting LGBT person would want to align themselves with any of these cults is beyond me.

        Keep religious views OUT of politics, no matter what side of what fence you are on. We don’t need any religious groups campaigning for anything in relation to governance.

        1. Because especially in a place like Utah, being a Mormon is a lot more than a religion. It takes a more ethnic dimension – it’s your family, your community, your heritage. Even Mormons who are no longer religious are still culturally Mormons – they’re called Jack Mormons, like progressive former Salt Lake City mayor Rocky Anderson. It is cruel to ask these people to surrender their traditional identity – it’s like asking someone to abandon their ethnicity or nationality – it just doesn’t necessarily work that way.

          Help Mormons be better, more enlightened people. But most will still be Mormons in some way or another.

          1. Midnighter 25 Jan 2014, 3:10pm

            Excellent comment. I still think BlokeToys point stands however : religion is a terrible basis for governing any nation whose aspiration is “liberty and justice for all”. “You cant do that because its against my religion” is just bullsh1t.

      2. Christianity has been assimilating faiths and cultures throughout its history, re branding them and claiming them as its own. Why should they treat the LGBT community any differently?

        As far as some Christian sects are now concerned, diminishing attendance is prompting changes in attitudes. Gays are simply the new pagans or the new African. The only epiphany the Mormon leadership have had is to realise we are more bums on seats and money in the bank.

  5. Such arrogance and misappropriation that my taxes (I live in Utah) are going to an effort to limit the rights of LGBT people like me. I want my money back.

    1. You might actually have a case. You should look into taking legal action to stop him from using tax payers money for his own politician and religious campaigns, there should be a precedent for that, surely?

  6. Let him spend all the money he wants, because he will fail and the public will be even more angered with him than they are right now for wasting their money on his own political and religious pet projects.

    It’s pretty funny to see a man screaming “dictatorship” while he himself wastes public money that should be spent on education, medical facilities, caring for the elderly and vulnerable and general up-keep of the state on his own personal religious crusade.

    Republicans still don’t seem to understand what the work HYPOCRITE means.

  7. Bigotry = Priceless

  8. When their challenges fails, I hope the voters remember these despicable religious homophobes at election time ….

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