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UKIP’s ‘gay marriage caused floods’ councillor wasn’t news when he was a Tory, says Farage

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  1. Dave Page 20 Jan, 10:58am

    I suspect at least part of the difference, Nigel, is that UKIP pretend to be a “libertarian” party when you are in fact an ultra-conservative, ultra-Tory bankers’ party who wants to destroy the welfare state and slash tax on millionaires.

    Also worth noting that people who supported SSM in the Tories weren’t kicked out of the party, unlike UKIP’s youth chair who was kicked out for exactly that. You’ve suspended this crazy homophobe, but you haven’t expelled him. UKIP’s “libertarian” double-standard – support SSM and get kicked out, claim that SSM causes flooding and get a slap on the wrist.

    Still, it’s nice to see a UKIP member admit that there is a man-made component to climate change!

    1. I am glad I am not the only person in Britain to recognise UKIP for what it actually is ie an ultra-Thatcherite Tory party wedded to failed ultra-liberal globalist economics which only really work for the uber-rich and with similar bigotry to the parent party (ie the Tories) as regards unemployed people and the vulnerable in society eg the disabled.

  2. D.McCabe 20 Jan, 11:00am

    All I hear from Farage is ‘wa wa wa, it’s not fair’

    STFU you and your party are nothing but a bunch og bigots and racists.

  3. Get “its raining men” by The Weather Girls to number1 https://m.facebook.com/GetItsRainingMenToNumber1 and show the bigots what we`re made of as a community by sending out a powerful collective message.

    1. allancsn 20 Jan, 2:09pm

      Downloaded – I like the song as well. We do need to be a bit more visual sometimes. I appreciate this is a small gesture but if we start small maybe one day the 3,000,000 + of us in the UK will get the courage to stand up and say enough – treating us like rubbish has to end.
      Only about one million of the four million Catholics in UK actually ever attend mass and look how successful they have been at influencing laws.
      We really could make a huge difference if we wanted to.

      1. allancsn 20 Jan, 6:27pm

        Now I realise I peaked too early – should wait until next week – but hey will go again, always even more exciting.

  4. Mike UK 20 Jan, 11:21am

    He’s part right. It was the same with the BNP (a party I despise) but the media do jump on everything that parties outside the mainstream get up to, but don’t put the same spotlight on the three main parties.
    That’s not to say that Silvester’s comments shouldn’t have been reported on, but what he’s said and done is no different to what many bigoted Tories have said and done either.
    I say report on them all equally. Because this type of reporting only backfires. The public aren’t so naive that they don’t see the Beeb (for example) digging up every flake of mud they find on UKIP, and inflating it, whilst not doing the same with the Lib/Lab/Con parties. It’s playing favouritism, and I fear it will play right into UKIPs hands.

    1. Midnighter 20 Jan, 11:42am

      We know from the poor reporting on LGBT issues that the media (including the BBC) can exhibit huge bias, but let’s be honest: swivel eyed loons make for entertaining reading. If UKIP contain more than their fair share, then that is hardly favouritism.

      Given the political spread of the media I think you’d find it difficult to substantiate claims that deserving Tories are ignored when they act the prat, but as far as ostensibly independent sources (e.g. the BBC) go, I’d tend to agree with you.

    2. Actually the Bebe did report the bigot’s comments and UKIP’s first ‘he has a right to air his views’ response on a No News Sunday on its internet news site.

      Today it has gone on to headline (Liberal Democrat) Lord Renard’s troubles.

      I do agree the BBC’s blatant lack of fair coverage of LGBT issues – but of course that’s a mainstream media problem – even though it doesn’t stop me (and many others) regularly berating Aunty for it.

  5. Sister Mary Clarence 20 Jan, 11:25am

    Well Nigel the Lord does indeed more in mysterious ways.

    I think we can probably put Mr Silvester’s departure down to divine intervention, God’s wrath, that kind of thing.

    If he hadn’t of gone, we’d probably have had storm, hurricane, tempest, or at the very least a chilly breeze.

    1. peter gregory 20 Jan, 7:29pm

      Yep- god hates fags- those tormented ones in the closet who are full of self hatred so project it on to others, causing youth suicides and wrecked tormented lives. My example of course is Cardinal O’Brien, who has been severely punished with an early retirement, full pension and living accommodation. There have been several programmes recently on BEEB radio about Gilbert Harding, a “TV personality from way back when the BBC had a TV monopoly; HE was full of self hatred, contempt for the programmes which made him famous and was called “the rudest man in Britain”. It transpired that he was a closet gay (it was illegal then) and had become a Catholic, so that was THAT- hate yourself and insult everyone else.

  6. First of all Farage is completely incorrect, Tories who voted against the SSM legislation were exposed by the media, particularly the ramblings of Lord Tebitt etc. Secondly, Farage has admitted UKIP were aware of this nutjobs views before they let him into the party.

    1. Robert W. Pierce 20 Jan, 12:14pm

      Farage is such a cry-baby. Silvester was exposed for his lunacy while a Tory during the marriage debate as were Sir Gerald Howarth, Peter Bone and Edward Leigh and Nadine Dorries throughout the entire Parliamentary debate. Then of course Lord Dear’s rant. It was in all the newspapers.

    2. Don’t be too unfair on Nigel Farage. If he didn’t let in Tory nutjobs he wouldn’t have much of a party. UKIP is full of them. Why else would a Tory newspaper like the Express continually print favourable coverage of them?

  7. Locus Solus 20 Jan, 11:44am

    “But suddenly he switches to UKIP and continues the same thing and gets on the national news.”

    They report on it because it highlights the simple fact that UKIP attracts complete nutjobs.

  8. Robert S 20 Jan, 12:11pm

    Maybe it has less to do with double standards as with the fact that Silvester’s remarks were, this time, so outrageous and ridiculous that they made for a good print. That is how the media works, after all.

    If you want unfair media reports, try to look up the way in which they blame the unemployed for a crisis caused by bankers, the 90% false Euromyths published every day, judgemental attitudes towards everybody, etc. But I guess you would not complain in those cases.

  9. ” ….when Mr Silvester was saying these things in 2012 and 2013 as a Conservative town councillor in Henley, it was not a news story.” That, Nigel, is because he was one among many in the Tories. If yours has become the Party of Disillusioned Tory Nut Jobs, I think we need to know ….. and can react accordingly ….

  10. BlokeToys 20 Jan, 1:02pm

    Can he give us an example of the things this man was saying back then, or are we to merely trust that he was being as obscenely imbecilic then as he has been now? Personally, I know nothing about this man, but I find it a little unbelievable that he was saying similar things as a Tory and that it was completely ignored by the press.

    Or, perhaps, we have moved on enough as a society in just that short time for it to be of concern to a larger number of people in this country?

    I think it’s very unlikely this nutter was saying such ridiculous things as a Tory, perhaps making off-colour remarks and accusations, but I doubt he would have got away with blaming the PM for the weather and claiming it was the “wrath of God” when he was Tory.

    As loathed as I am to defend the Tory party, they would probably not have put up with the ramblings of a mad man quite like UKIP has.

  11. BlokeToys 20 Jan, 1:08pm

    It’s also hilarious to see Farage claiming that the other three parties are scared of UKIP, and that they’re striking a chord with the average British citizen.

    No, Farage, you’re striking a chord with the average knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, xenophobic, barely-functional Daily Mail headline-reading neanderthals of this country.

    You know, the ones who know fu*k all about politics or don’t understand 90% of it, they just hear a different language being spoken in the street and seethe with ignorant rage inside, while the rest of us smile and appreciate that the UK has has always existed as a direct result of migration, from the dawn of the Human race.

    Hopefully, that ignorant and uneducated breed of Brit is on the decline.

    1. For the record, I think you are completely wrong. Although such an incoherent rant shouldn’t warrant a reply, I think it’s you yourself who knows very little about politics as you clearly have not read the UKIP manifesto. It is not racist, nor bigoted and therefore should not strike a chord with “the average knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, xenophobic, barely-functional Daily Mail headline-reading neanderthal Educate yourself before talking rubbish.

      1. Hey Nick. I presume you’re gay or you wouldn’t be on here ….. unless, like so many rabid homophobes, you’re a closet case. I, for the record, think YOU are totally wrong. “The average knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, xenophobic, barely-functional Daily Mail headline-reading neanderthal” is EXACTLY to whom Farrage WANTS to appeal. Hitler had them in his sights too. Bully boys need bully boys on their team. Trouble is for Farrage, we’ve moved on since the 1930s. Most of the population has mellowed, become more multi-cultural, liberal and kinder. That’s why UKIP doesn’t stand a cat-in-hells of any great electoral success. Thank dog.

        1. LMAO “The average knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, xenophobic, barely-functional Daily Mail headline-reading neanderthal” then go on to label people “The average knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, xenophobic, barely-functional Daily Mail headline-reading neanderthal”. Contradiction.com. Then again, thats the case with oh so many “enlightened” liberal millitants. You can only be gay to comment on a certain website? very tolerent we are.

  12. That There Other David 20 Jan, 1:51pm

    UKIP: The joke that keeps on giving.

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