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UKIP LGBT group that opposed equal marriage law attacks ‘gay marriage caused floods’ councillor

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  1. Even the EDL has a bigger LGBT division, that says something about UKIP.

    1. That’s incorrect, LGBT* is larger than Lib Dem’s gay wing! The 5 members who signed the statement are the 5 members who sit on the committee and run LGBT* in UKIP – UKIP’s officially approved gay wing! It seems Pink News can’t even report that properly, *sighs*

  2. Robert in S. Kensington 19 Jan, 3:26pm

    Well, they’re just as loony and extreme for opposing equal marriage even if they personally don’t wish to participate. Hypocrites!

    1. UKIP’s wikipedia entry says they are a libertarian party so I would have thought they would be all in favour of gay marriage as that is probably one of the most libertarian policies any government could enact. I don’t think UKIP oppose gay marriage for any genuinely held convictions but do it as a way of getting old school Tories on board.. Let’s face it, UKIP don’t really have anything in the way of a distinctive political philosophy of their own but are simply a party that represents many of the most extreme and loopy elements of the Conservative Party.

      1. I’m gay and i support UKIP. So do many others. UKIP don’t support gay marriage as such as being libertarian they factor in religious beliefs as well. However saying that, seeing as gay marriage is already approved in UK law, UKIP will not backtrack on that. They can’t. Bash UKIP all you like. Not all gay people agree with you lot believe it or not. Stop reading the biased media.

        Oh and another thing. UKIP’s LGBT division is larger than what Facebook portrays. I sense that it what you’re making your assumptions on.

      2. Robert in S. Kensington 20 Jan, 12:17pm

        The American libertarian party supports equal marriage, the largest libertarian party in the world I might add. They even had a serious candidate vying for the Presidency at one time, Ron Paul.

    2. It’s not hypocritical to not wish to force religions to bless gay marriage and at the same time criticise religion being forced on homosexuals.

      1. NO religion is being forced to conduct same-sex marriages. The legislation which has been passed explicity says that. Indeed, that act actually PROTECTS religious freedom AND EXTENDS it by allowing the Quakers, Unitarians and Liberal Jews marry gay people. This is what these religious denominations have wanted for a longtime.

      2. The legislation that has been passed making legal gay marriage doesn’t compel religions to marry gay people if they don’t wish to do so. The bill both PROTECTS religious freedom AND EXTENDS it by allowing Quakers, Unitarians and Liberal Jews to do something they have wanted to do for a longtime ie marry gays.

        1. Indeed it doesn’t compel any religion to partake in conducting ceremonies, what is clear though is that those crying for religious protection wanted nothing more than to block it for all religion and take away the choice. If you try and stop anyone taking part you don’t seem so much of a narrow minded bigot.

          As Steven says I think it no coincidence that UKIP started vocally showing a lack of support for marriage equality at the same time old school Tory hacks and supporters started to abandon the conservative party.

  3. Lol, they opposed on the grounds of religious freedom. Well the religionists will be pleased as that gives them a pretty clear run at saying anything. Would they be in favour of “religious freedom” when it came to stoning gays? Do they know that a large religious grouping would like to stone them to death? Where does religious freedom end and common sense take over with these people? Or does religious freedom trump everything as it did in the days of yore?

  4. I’m gay and i support UKIP. So do many others. UKIP don’t support gay marriage as such as being libertarian they factor in religious beliefs as well. However saying that, seeing as gay marriage is already approved in UK law, UKIP will not backtrack on that. They can’t. Bash UKIP all you like. Not all gay people agree with you lot believe it or not. Stop reading the biased media.

    Oh and another thing. UKIP’s LGBT division is larger than what Facebook portrays. I sense that it what you’re making your assumptions on.

  5. They opposed SSM on the grounds of “religious freedom” . What about the religious freedom of those religionists who would like to stone them to death? Does “religious freedom” in 2014 trump decency and common sense. Where do they think that “religious freedom” should end? Talk about the “Stockholm Syndrome”.

    1. Mumbo Jumbo 19 Jan, 6:37pm

      In fairness, I would also add what about the religious freedom of those clergy in the CoE who desperately want to marry gay people but under the new legislation designed to “protect” the CoE now find they would be committing a criminal offence?

  6. Just to clarify, the LGBT* in UKIP group itself did NOT oppose equal marriage bill or concept of equal marriage.
    Indeed, I personally whole-heartedly support it.

    1. Excuse me?
      “UKIP thoroughly supports equal rights for same sex civil partnerships and equal treatment financially as married couples. As a matter of fact we support the same allowances for gay partners with children as married couples with children.
      Our problem is with the word “marriage”.
      David Coburn, UKIP’s openly gay London Regional Chairman and London Assembly Candidate. March 2012

      1. Again, David Coburn is an individual and that was his opinion. He is not a committee member of LGBT* in UKIP and he does not speak on our behalf.

  7. so ukip lgbt first supports religious freedom (or as other normal lgbt people would call it: a right to discriminate) and then attacks it. schizophrenic or what?

  8. Why would anyone vote for UKIP? I just don’t get it. If there is a UKIP voter, please tell me what attracts you to join UKIP.

    1. Freedom from the Eu. As well as other factors

      1. looking forward to two millions of brits being deported back to uk, finally no more of clinical obesity on the beaches of southern europe

      2. James Justice 20 Jan, 12:04pm

        Freedom from the neo-liberal, anti-worker EU, a sensible needs-based immigration system, Grammar schools, a more authoritarian criminal justice system. The list is endless – I’m gay and have been voting UKIP ever since 2001, when they first stood a candidate in the constituency I live in.

        1. Very sad.

      3. We would not be enjoying anything like the LGBT freedoms we do had it not been for European legislation. You are naive in the extreme if you honestly believe that a teeny little island like Britain would be better off in a world which is rapidly condensing into three or four super-continents. Instead of harping on about the ‘glorious past’ of Empire, we should be concentrating on being IN Europe and fighting our corner – not constantly threatening to throw our bottle out of the pram. We are becoming a laughing-stock on the world stage for having such childish, backward-looking notions.

  9. As pathetic as a letter to Goebels from a Jewish Nazi.

    1. What a stupid offensive comment

  10. Inis Magrath 19 Jan, 8:24pm

    The floods of last year were NOTHING compared to the GREAT NORTH SEA FLOOD OF 1953!!! What could possibly have cause that catastrophic flood? Clearly it was God’s punishment on the UK for persecuting known homosexual Alan Turing. After saving Britain from the Germans during WWII by cracking the Enigma code, he was ruthlessly prosecuted for homosexuality in 1952. Then, the following year — the Great North Sea Flood!

    Christians: Persecute gay people at your own peril. God loves gay people.

  11. They must be confused “Queens” to be members of an extreme right party

  12. Johnny B 20 Jan, 9:00am

    LGBT people joining UKIP makes me think of the story of the fox and the scorpion. No matter what the scorpion promises, it’s true nature will always win out. It’s beyond me how any self respecting homosexual could join UKIP, the party that wants to see Christian values in the UK. F*ck that!

  13. George Broadhead 20 Jan, 3:59pm

    ” the UKIP LGBTQ group opposed same-sex marriage on the grounds of religious freedom.”

    My understanding is that this in no way went against religious freedom, In any case, why should this trump LGBT rights?

    1. Stupid people: stupid rhetoric. Religion was SPECIFICALLY prevented from performing gay marriages. Typical right-wing, Daily Fail reactionary nonsense. How any LGBT person can be a member of such an odious band of ultra-conservatives beats me.

  14. So these LGBT people voted against LGBT equality?
    UKIP really is a absurd outfit….. like the BNP but slightly better dressed.

    1. Looking at the picture I’m not sure if you are right about them being slightly better dressed really. If the people claiming to be LGBT within the UKIP are for real they should feel ashamed.

  15. Supporting or not supporting I should say on the grounds of religious freedom is very perverse. So freedom for the religious bigots but not freedom for those among the LGBT that want to have the freedom to marry. I respect that some LGBT people just like some straight people will not want to marry, and I am not forcing anyone to marry. What is right is that everyone should have the right to marry who they want regardless of sexual orientation. What is not right is that a small group of religious fanatics should have the right to say we cannot marry who we want. Freedom is something for all not just the selected.

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