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Thomas Hitzlsperger: There’s ‘a long way to go’ before a premiership star comes out and continues playing

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  1. Sim wrote “It’s good that he is out for sure.
    Now he needs to publicly name the homophobes in football.”

    Most sensible comment I’ve read on this topic, all bullies rely on the victim suffering in isolated silence because it’s not cool to be a snitch, they can then continue to freely persecute them without consequences.
    I say tell everyone about it , expose the bullies and flush them out, don’t protect your tormentors by staying silent or you are colluding with them and they will move on to the next victim when they are finished with you.
    Realistically there will be many in the sport who are homophobic but Thomas could out some of the bigger ones as examples.

  2. He COULD have come out but chose for his own reasons to hide.

    Fair enough.

    It is unacceptable for him to tell other players to remain closeted because of his own unwillingness to make that jump.

    Why has he not named the bigots in the FA?

    If he wants to make a difference then this is an essential first step.

    Schoolchildren are coming out these days. These are far braver people than uber privileged footballers.

  3. So easy for everyone to give advice and make demands of him. Fewer people will come out if they are faced with a list of conditions they have to meet to please the Gay community afterwards. People in the public eye who come out may face a barrage of abuse on Twitter but they don’t have to walk on to a football pitch with thousands of people chanting filthy abuse at them. Footballers face particular problems in this regard. Let’s give those who come out (even after leaving) support.

    1. 20 or 30 years ago black players faced horrific racist abuse on the pitch.

      They did not have the option of hiding their skin colour.

      I don’t see why gay players should be supported to stay closeted.

      Coming out after retirement is all very good but it is not addressong the homophobia of football when it would be most effective.

      It would require a great deal of bravery for a player to come out while playing.

      It is sad but possibly understandable why Hitzlsperger lacked this courage.

      He is obliged to do the next best thing – naming the bigots.

      His comments about the difficulty in coming out in football remind me of John Amaechi – they strike me as part justification for staying in the closet.

      I think we are all in agreement that a school child who comes out is far braver than a multi millionaire retired footballer.

      1. I’m afraid life is not that black and white (no pun intended). Coming out is always something that takes courage to do. However, a child from a supportive family at a liberal school may find it easier to come out than someone who has spent their whole life entrenched in a rampantly homophobic environment, or one who knows their career may be jeopardised.
        Yes, Blacks have never had the option to hide. That is a advantage. Blacks have not had to grow up hearing hateful racist comments from their own family. Blacks have always had an easily identifiable community and a network of support. As children, we have always been alone.
        Coming out after retirement is not the most effective thing to do but it is something. Each does what he can.
        I suggest you get off your high horse.

  4. Helge Vladimir Tiller 9 Jan, 1:16pm

    I “came out” in 1960 / 61. When homosexuality between men was punishable with one year in prison. ( Norway ) The whole society was against gays and lesbians. In natural encounters with friends and other people, when sexuality was the topic, I always told the others that I was attracted to men. I also tried to write about homosexuality in newspapers, but everything was refused ! —I had to endure violence, harassment and discrimination etc. etc. So in 1966-I fled to Oslo-in order to live a more peaceful life – without too much hatred from ordinary people. I even was refused to enter a school, ’cause I was open about myself. A school I was a 100% qualified for.—Much more to tell ! But I must restrict myself—–I do not consider myself as brave. It felt SO RIGHT to tell others about my lovely feelings. I hadn’t much self confidence, but I had a strong inner feeling of pride ! I simply had to be honest, “the whole matter” was so natural. Remember by that time, LGBTQ-PEOPLE WERE HATED

    1. Well said.

      Your story illustrates perfectly my frustration with these closeted millionaires.

      It is NOT brave to come out as a retired millionaire in a gay friendly country.

      An openly gay person in Russia is a far more inspirational person.

      Let’s not make Hitzlsperger a saint.

      Let’s see what names he starts naming of the bigots in football.

      1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 9 Jan, 3:00pm

        I understand you, Sim ! Sometimes I’ve been very angry ’cause well known persons in Norway who are gay- never did utter one word about their sexuality. BUT they went to “far off countries” to amuse themselves !

  5. Helge Vladimir Tiller 9 Jan, 2:51pm

    What also is extremely important, is to remember that every person who comes out is a real healer in society. Every single person who openly tells about his / her homosexual feelings, renders service to persons who fight with self acceptance ; Helping young people who is on the brink of disaster. Of course, famous persons will be more noticed- but we are all valuable in this context.

  6. Cant wait for Stevie Gerrard…..lol

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