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US evangelist: The Pope is ‘not the judge’ on homosexuality

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  1. The pope isn’t, but some two-bit evangelist is… #moron

  2. God’s word is the same, yesterday and today and a million years from now.

    And was it the same a million years ago too? Graham appears to believe he’s particularly well-informed on this issue. One could almost accuse him of speaking for God – which no-one is supposed to be able to do.

    1. Presumably he has a direct line to the almighty. (Which is what the pope is allegedly supposed to have!)

    2. Thats what we have the Bible for. The word of God.

      1. Frank Boulton 3 Jan, 1:53pm

        Since you seem to be so well informed about this, Sebastian, perhaps you could tell us exactly which Bible is the word of God. Is it one of the numerous Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic original texts? Which of the originals is the real original? There are so many to choose from. And, of the English translations of the Bible, which is the true word of God? Is it the King James Version? Wyclifffe’s translations? The New English Bible? Or maybe the Queen James Version? Since you so confidently assert that the Bible is the word of God, perhaps you could tell us to which Bible you refer. I’m not criticising you, because we both in the same business. We’re both creating more atheists.

      2. Frank Boulton 3 Jan, 2:32pm

        Since you profess to be so well informed about such matters, Sebastian, perhaps you could tell us all which Bible is the word of God. Which one of the numerous original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic versions are you referring to? Which original version of the Bible is the real original version? There are so many to choose from. Of the English translations, which one is the true word of God? Is it the King James Version? Wycliffe’s translations? The New English Bible? Or maybe the Queen James Version (LOL)? Please enlighten us about this, as there are thousands of originals and thousands of translations to choose from and they all seem to contradict each other.

        1. Frank Boulton 3 Jan, 2:34pm

          Sorry for repeating myself. My first comment got lost.

  3. Darren Yehuda 30 Dec 2013, 2:50pm

    I was going to write something profound about how God’s word has been interpreted re slavery, womens eqality and stuff, but then in a moment of clarity it came to me…why bother!

  4. I always remind idiots like this guy that the bible was written by men, not God. Inspiration does not justify authorization.

    1. Problem is Wade, that these guys believe that the bible was written by ‘GOD’ (Whichever one the Caananites were worshiping at the time). Their faith is boundless and their stupidity beyond comprehention.

      1. It was written by Gods Prophets and Jesus Disciples. You can not get closer then that.

        1. Frank Boulton 3 Jan, 2:07pm

          See, my comment above, Sebastian. Which version of the Bible did God dictate to these prophets and disciples?

  5. These people will say ANYTHING to continue to feather their nest. If the Pope had roundly condemned homosexuality do you think for a minute that Mr Graham would not be in agreement with him? These religious nut jobs are looking increasingly lunatic. They are best ignored. And to anyone who puts money in their coffers – you are equally as lunatic.

  6. QueeRevolutionary 30 Dec 2013, 4:21pm

    The problem with copy pasting & plagiarizing other reports about what someone said is that you end up misunderstood what that Jesus freak Graham said too.

    He said, “I think he’s right when he says he’s not the judge.: “He’s not the judge. God is the judge.”

    Which is exactly what Jew bashing Muslim bashing atheist bashing Pope Gay Basher said, “”If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with good will, who am I to judge?”

    He also said that he would continue to enforce the catholic cult gay bashing catechism http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm

    1. Rudehamster 30 Dec 2013, 6:29pm

      Good point, well made.

    2. Frank Boulton 3 Jan, 2:38pm

      You took the words right out of my mouth.

  7. Graham always speaks like he has direct phone to his god. How often I hear this from his friend preachers, mainly Evangelicals. That must be a very busy phone line to their god. They say god talks to them. If anyone believes this bull they are a sad case of a human being. However, so many fools believe they do. If there is a god he can make rules and change rules. He a god. So why can he not change the rules. Jesus said he came to replace the old testament but these guys do not listen. Jesus never spoke about homosexuality If it was a sin he sure would have said something about it. The old testament is mainly a history of the Jewish people. What is said were only opinions of men in those days. They were not rules but opinions. Rules and opinions can be changed. Graham has it all wrong.

  8. Daniel Berry, NYC 30 Dec 2013, 6:16pm

    He’s entitled to his opinion about the pope, but I’m afraid he’s dead wrong about that Henna job.

  9. What softening? I don’t see any change of position between this pope and the last pope and the pope before that. Calling a PR move “softening” is misleading and ridiculously forgiving of a man who is this homophobic

    1. Yes, he is undoubtedly a homophobe but neither of the last 2 popes would have made that statement about not judging so he deserves a little credit for that. The ripples of those simple words have done some good, certainly.

      1. Frank Boulton 3 Jan, 2:45pm

        Well, I never thought that I would end up defending a pope. Pope Francis is just doing a PR job. He’s just repackaging Catholic merchandise, because it’s past it’s sell-by date. At least, old Papa Ratzi was honest about his ideology.

  10. Staircase2 30 Dec 2013, 8:33pm

    “God would have to shift — and God doesn’t,” he said. “God’s word is the same, yesterday and today and a million years from now.”

    But actually it ISN’T though is it…

    Various translations along the way have perverted the original meaning and added cultural prejudices. The modern American bibles being a good case in point, let alone the King James version…

    1. Quite right. How can intelligent people spend so much time discussing an old novel? IT’S A BOOK … written by men – and men with an agenda. When you see how much harm religion has done over the centuries, I am at a total loss to explain why anyone can still take it so seriously. If someone’s self-delusion brings them ‘comfort’ … then fine. But the minute their irrational ‘beliefs’ starts to affect my life, I fight back ….

    2. Frank Boulton 3 Jan, 2:49pm

      Yes, as I keep pointing out, biblical exegesis is a history of willful mistranslation.

  11. Pat Robertson, Gubnor Huckster(bee), Pat Boone, Duck Daddy Robertson and Chuck Norris are all Southern Baptist bible bigots. Graham Junior was a dedicated drug addict and punk before getting Jeebus and getting judgmental.

  12. Frank Boulton 3 Jan, 2:56pm

    And while we’re on the subject of what religious people have to say about homosexuality, this story has drawn another paradox to my attention. Have you ever noticed how all those, who believe in an infallible Creator, seem to be of the opinion that he got most of his Creation wrong? So, God’s always right but most of the time he’s wrong at the same time. Ah, it makes one feel so appreciative of the simplicity of atheism.

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