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England Women’s football captain: ‘I’d like to see a day when male players aren’t afraid to come out’

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  1. I have always thought “the beautiful game” was an ironic description. Everything about that thuggish environment on and off the pitch is ugly and primitive.

  2. Helge Vladimir Tiller 29 Dec 2013, 2:53pm

    I love what you say, Casey Stoney ! ( Your picture is very nice, by the way )- One reason : I think male players are afraid- mainly ’cause they are so preoccupied by their masculinity. They are so afraid of showing any tendencies of effeminacy and softness. Women are more relaxed to such matters. Deep inside, many men envy ( I’m NOT saying all ! ) women because of their qualities. AND – almost 50 % have once or several times had sex with a male partner. Whether they are gay or not. But they are hiding this for fear of being associated with effeminacy.

    1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 29 Dec 2013, 7:31pm

      “Their qualities” when it comes to accept oneself : as femi. a mixture, masculine and so on— ( I was not aiming at football in this sentence-) Women are clever, men are clever; when they are in action. I love both !

    2. Some gay men are not effeminate it is understandable for non-effeminate gay men to not want to come out for fear of riddacule due to silly stereotypes which people believe (My brother stereotypes me at times)

      1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 30 Dec 2013, 10:43am

        Yes true, Peter. And many straight men are effeminate, to different degrees, without admitting so. This suppression of a persons qualities often create an unbalanced behaviour in society. Finding scapegoats in order to retain some sort of self confidence , blaming persons who “threaten to reveal the truth”.

  3. Probably that whole thing about a mob’s intelligence decreasing as the numbers increase, I find it hard to believe that the majority of fans would care about something so trivial as sexuality ordinarily, but it only takes a couple of bigoted fools to start a homophobic chant and mob mentality kicks in. It’s no excuse, and I totally understand why a footballer wouldn’t want to risk abuse and possibly losing money, but it will only take a few to kickstart it and it will become a non issue.

  4. Helge Vladimir Tiller 29 Dec 2013, 6:59pm

    Most male players- even gays- so fear the charge of homosexuality that even if their hearts tell them to fight for the cause of homosexuals, they are hesitant, —But “coming out” most properly refers to the CHANGE of MIND consequent on the bold actions. For instance, the person is a homosexual, or a transvestite, or a Jew, or is light-skinned and has decided to rejoin his black friends and be recognized as one of them. The change of mind centers on a vital truth : that repercussions are never as awful as they seem when contemplated from the shadows. ( Partly from the book : Society and the Healthy Homosexual – ( Dr. G. Weinberg )

  5. Sinead Harkin 30 Dec 2013, 9:34am

    One day football will be dragged kicking and screaming into the 1970s.How ironic that this sports homophobic supporters spend 90 minutes screaming their heads off at men in shorts

  6. I wonder what she thinks of Rugby and the gay players who have been completely accepted and supported in the past, and the ongoing charitable efforts of some players to further exclusivity even more.

    It’s ironic to me that a sport which is considerably more physical, more “manly” (for want of a better word) is so much more supportive and open about sexuality.

    Then again, we don’t often hear/see stories about Rugby players acting like spoiled teenagers, cheating with each others wives and girlfriends, with hollow bimbos on their arms flashing their tits in lads mags, or spending insane amounts of money on a car that they crash into a lamppost a month later…

    I’ve always seen Footballers as being immature, teenagers trapped in mens bodies. The same cannot be said about Rugby.

    1. That should be “Inclusive” lol

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