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LGBT group criticises Croatia for equal marriage ban: ‘Human rights can’t be subjected to majority vote’

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  1. Derek Williams 2 Dec 2013, 1:01pm

    By all means criticise, but they’ll take no notice.

    Of course I will now never visit Croatia again and waste my tourist dollars there, but then, they don’t want gay people there anyway, nor our families nor our heterosexual allies. Like Russia, most of Asia and all of the Middle East (except Israel) they believe that we can be eliminated through persecution. So far, this has failed in every country it’s been tried in, and in every age, because we just keep on being born to heterosexual parents. So even if they killed us all, we’re back again within a generation. Only by killing our parents could they prevent us from appearing, but then 90% of our siblings are heterosexuals. Religion is the scourge of the homosexual, and of humanity itself.

    1. Davor J. Malenica 2 Dec 2013, 6:56pm

      Derek, would you also boycott the USA and all other countries in the world because there are homophobes everywhere? My friend got beaten up in the UK for being gay, so should boycott traveling to the UK, Ireland, Malta, Cyprus, Greece, Bulgaria, Poland, and all other EU members where same sex marriage is not legal? Croatia still allows the registered domestic partnership, and this referendum doesn’t make it a top homophobic country in world. Take a look at the “tropical paradise” Jamaica where their own gov’t is calling for execution of the gay people. Would you feel more comfy in a tourist compound behind concrete walls there or let’s say a legal, gay only, nude beaches that legally exist in Croatia and discrimination against GLBTQ population is legal ally banned and strictly enforced. Trust me, I am from Croatia, and I walked hand in hand with my husband down the streets of Zagreb and Dubrovnik without even a single star at us let alone an incident. How about boycotting Italy too?

    2. Will you be boycotting Scotland?

  2. Ireland is also planning to determine our civil rights through a vote.

    that is before 2015.

    There must be clearly defined financial punishments in place before that election.

    Countries which allow the mob to determine minority rights deserve absolute condemnation, regardless of what their appallingly bigoted constitutions say.

  3. Johnny Ishibashi 2 Dec 2013, 2:16pm

    A referendum is not and never was a democratic instrument. It only shows the opinion of the majority and a democracy is not equal a system that reflects the opinion of the majority, a democracy is a system in which minorities rights are protected. So they really need to learn what a democracy is.

    1. Frank Boulton 3 Dec 2013, 9:58am

      A referendum, or for that matter any other means of voting, can only show the opinion of those, who bother to vote. Any vote can be manipulated through gerrymandering, disenfranchisement, terror and other means.

  4. The catholic church has been behind this in Croatia. They have a long history of interference in politics in that country – just look at what happened when they broke from Yugoslavia during the second word war and the Ustase (supporters of the Nazis) took control – catholic franciscan friars running concentration camps and rounding up the Jews for deportation. even the archbishop of Zagreb (Stepanic) supported them at the start – though he changed his mind when saw what they actually got up to. Do they learn nothing from history?
    q.v. Daniel Goldhagen, 2002, The Moral Reckoning (see pic on p137)

    Actually we should not be too worried. If you had taken a similar referendum 20 years ago in the UK you might have got a similar result. So now it is up to LGBT groups and liberals etc to push and push. Minds will change… they have only been in the EU for 5 minutes!

  5. Davor J. Malenica 2 Dec 2013, 6:49pm

    As a Croatian citizen living in the United States, for the first time, I am ashamed of my homeland. The only counties that voted against this nazi referendum are the Istrian peninsula and the bordering Kvarner region, basically northern Adriatic counties. I do not support the boycott of Croatia, but I do understand why would some people go for it. Croats as nation are not generally homophobic as this referendum seems so show, since even the Croatian president voted against it along with many high ranking ministers. They even march in the Zagreb Pride every year! Still, it seems that this issue will end up getting overturned by the Constitutional Court of Croatia, because there were some illegalities concerning the entire organization of the referendum itself. Since I live in the USA, I was not eligible to vote, but my family did vote NO, and I happy to know that at least my family and friends do not support discrimination against GLBTQ community.

  6. Davor J Malenica 2 Dec 2013, 7:03pm

    @Derek Williams: would you boycott Ireland, Malta and all other EU counties where same sex marriage is not legal? You’re going to the very extreme and calling the entire nation a homophobic nation does more damage to us, than good. If you boycott everything, we are no different than the zealots who want to shove their homophobic agenda down everyone’s throats. Relax, do so more research, and as a Croatian, Bosnian and the USA citizen, I will absolutely be able to give you a more objective view on Croatia, it’s people and the way of life. Feel free to contact me directly. I am looking forward to hearing from you. Your friend, Davor.

  7. Just to clarify, Croatia currently has ‘unregistered cohabitation’ whereas the E.U members with no legal recognition of same-sex relationships whatsoever are: Bulgaria, Cyprus, Estonia, Gibraltar, Greece, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta and Poland.

  8. Austria, Czech Republic, Finland, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Luxembourg, Slovenia and UK (Scotland) are EU members which don’t currently allow same-sex marriage but do have same-sex civil partnerships.

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