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Church of England working with Stonewall to combat homophobic bullying

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  1. Does that mean the CofE will stop calling us names and lying about us?

    Or is it only bullying when children do it?

    1. Not while Ben Summerskill is part of the game. He is a self-hating toad himself who couldn’t be bother to fight for equal marriage until he was forced to do so.

  2. Nice of them – considering most homophobic bullying is inspired by religious books ….

  3. Justin Welby and Ben Summerskill are both poisonous homophobes.

    Both have campaigned against equal marriage.

    how are we meant to trust either of these bigots.

    Why has Ben Summerskill not been sacked for his homophobic campaign against equality?

  4. Ben Summerskill has never explained or apologised for his homophobia in opposing marriage equality.

    Sack the bigot now.

  5. How about start by censuring the vicars and bishops who unleashed such virulent bigotry? Show the church doesn’t tolerate such by refusing to have such bigoted bullies in their own ranks? How about reprimanding Lord Carey?

  6. Stonewall needs to sack the Summerskill homophobe.

    Welby needs to expel all those maniacal African bishops.

    Until that is done then both Stonewall and the CofE lack any type of credibility here.

  7. The Fox agrees to help the hens avoid danger?

    Be very suspicious.

  8. Robert in S. Kensington 19 Nov 2013, 4:15pm

    For starters, how about a formal apology from the CoE for centuries of oppression and discrimination against gay people? All this empty talk of having let gay people down isn’t good enough.

  9. Philip Breen 19 Nov 2013, 4:38pm

    It is interesting to read various comments about Ben Summerskill and I thought I was the only person to have thought them. In fact, because of his role in Stonewall I thought I must have misunderstood him. However, I am left speechless that Stonewall has done nothing to challenge the 2013 Home Office driven government decision that lists the old gay offences as offences that will always be disclosed on DBS/CRB checks. They are victimless spent crimes unless proven otherwise by an individual’s case notes which would state if a minor had been involved. Stonewall could help many gay men, victims of the pretty police entrapment routine often used before the SOA 2003, but currently excluded from employment needing enhanced disclosure. It is outrageous that the old gay offences are presumed generic safeguarding risks. Why is everyone silent about this crippling discrimination?

      1. Philip Breen 23 Nov 2013, 5:04pm

        KJG, thank you for taking the trouble to provide this information and for the relevant link. Let’s hope Galop gets this dealt with and that the government acts soon, because gay men convicted of ‘soliciting or persistently importuning by man for an immoral purpose’ or of any of the old gay ‘gross indecency’ offences are professionally paralysed by current legislation. They simply can’t apply for work that needs an enhanced disclosure. There is a residual expectation nowadays in that legislation that these old gay offences implied safeguarding risks, which, unless minors were expressly mentioned in an individual’s case notes, they did not. Gay men were simply looking for same sex adult partners at a time when few other opportunities presented themselves. It was a well-known easy target, if not a sport, for those police who chose to boost their conviction statistics by such means. The social stigma involved meant gay men would quickly plead guilty to avoid publicity.

  10. They both give me the creeps, and now they are colluding and manipulating together. EWE!!!

  11. Godric Godricson 19 Nov 2013, 5:19pm

    Not in my name! I recently sent a ‘de-baptism’ certificate to my Anglican Diocese of origin. See my response to Archbishop Welby here http://youtu.be/YUPrqSmvyXI where I try to capture something of the current state of debate. I’d like to see the Anglicans disestablished and Stonewall be more accountable

  12. George Broadhead 19 Nov 2013, 5:25pm

    How ironic this is considering the stance the Church takes on LGBT relationships and rights as well as its total silence about the horrendous hostility towards these on the part of the Anglican Churches in African countries. I wonder if Stonewall will be bold enough to take this up with Justin Welby.

  13. So how will this work? There are lots of Evangelicals in CoE schools who will tell lgbt kids that their sexuality/identity is of the Devil and sit back while the kids in their charge take the cue and give the lgbt kids s***t in the expectation, probably borne out, of impunity. How will Justin and the rest combat this? I suspect they will do bugger-all in mortal fear of predictable Evangelical bullying and threats of cutting off the lolly. But they will play the usual CoE game of maintaining a PR front against homophobic bullying in order to continue the pretence of being the ‘National’ Church acting on general societal concerns and so still worthy of ‘Establishment’.
    I wait, not very hopefully, to be proved wrong.

    1. While I doubt that Justin Welby is any less homophobic than Roan Williams, he is more worldly and has a better grasp of finance, he is an ex oil industry executive rather than an academic. He realizes that while the majority of Anglicans in the UK and worldwide are homophobes, the majority of the organizations funds are raised in the USA where the episcopalian church is (by Christian standards) more tolerant.

      Unlike his predecessors he is therefore more likely to bite his tongue and think of the money.

  14. What is it with the Summerskill hatred on here? he may have his faults, at the end of the day he’s a paid up career activist and would probably have rather a Labour government introduce same sex marriage, but calling him a homophobe is pretty ridiculous

    1. Godric Godricson 19 Nov 2013, 6:35pm

      Stonewall and Summerskill has given absolutely no leadership whatsoever. They may as well not exist as an organisation. I see no reason Stonewall should claim to represent LGBT people when they are so lackluster and unambitious for human rights. I would rather that they stepped aside and voted themselves into another organisation. let’s remember that if the Government had listened to Stonewall there would be no Same Sex marriage

      1. Maybe they have operated more behind the scenes, if so they can claim credit for the repeal of section 28, and equal age of consent and civil partnerships among other gains. They are also running campaigns against homophobic bullying especially in schools which could do far more for ordinary lgbt people, including the most vulnerable of us, than same sex marriage (not that I’m against it).

    2. Ben Summerskill was actively campaigning against legal equality for gay people.

      until he was caught.

      He nor Stonewall have never explained nor apologised for this grotesque behaviour.

      That makes him a homophobic bigot and unfit for purpose on his role.

      While thw Summerskill bigot remains in charge Stonewall has zero credibility.

  15. CARING ABOUT OTHERS AND KIDS IS YOUR CHRISTIAN DUTY NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE , WHEN YOU VICTUMIZED THEM YOU BECOME A CRIMINAL IN THE HIGHEST FORM, HATE IS A CRIME WHEN ACTED OUT IN HARMFUL ATTACKS, KIDS AND PEOPLE AS A WHOLE LIVES ARE DAMAGED AN VIOLATED, THE SUICIDES OF THOSE KIDS ARE BLOOD ON EVERY ADULT HATE GROUPS HANDS AND HATE RELIGIONS HANDS, THATS REPUBLICAN BIGOTRY, AND ANY OTHERS, AND REAL ANGELS WILL SENTENCE THEM IN THE END TO HELL FOR NOT LOVING OTHER AND WALKING IN KINDNESS LIKE THEY COMMITSSIONED, YOU CANNOT WALK IN HATE AND LOVE , HATE IS EVIL AND LOVE IS GOODNESS, YOU CANNOT BE A CHRISTEN IF YOUR ARE NOT GOOD, AND YOU CANNOT WALK IN LOVE IF YOU ARE NOT GOOD, THE HYPOCRISY, OF ALL OF THE FILTHTY, ADULTRURING , PEDEPHILE HETERSEXUAL RELIGIONS, WITH HETERSEXUAL PASTORS, BEING ARRESTED EVERY WEEK TO MONTHS FOR RUNNING PROSTUTIONS RINGS OF KIDS AND WOMEN, TO DRUG DEALLING OT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY AND EVEN MURDER, IS THE SAME RACIST THUGS THAT LASH OUT AT THESE INNOCENT KIDS AND PEACEFUL FAMILIES, THEY MUST BE PROSECUTED AND NOT TOLERATED ON ANY LEVEL, , SCHOOLS ,, BUSINESS, POLICTICS AND ANY PUBLIC, BUSINESSS OF PRIVATE, AND PARANTS NEED TO BE PROSECUTED FOR ALLOWING KLANS AND HATE RELIGIONS TO HARM THEIR KIDS AND NOT LOVE THEM AND PROTECT THEM FORM THEIR FILTHY DANGEROUS HATE BRAINWASHING TACTICS THE MONSTERS ARE JUST EVIL MEN IN CROSSES AND ROBES, PEOPLE HAD BETTER STOP SEEING THEM AS ANY THING ELSE THEIR IS NOTHING MAGICAL ABOUT THEM, THEY, ARE SUPPOSE TO BE GOOD SAMARITAN AND GOODWILL AMBASSADORES, USHERING IN CHARITY, EMPATHY , SYMPATHY, AND CIVIL RIGHTS, , HUMAN RIGHTS, INITIATIVES ON EVERY LEVEL. PERIOD, GOOD FOR YOU CHURCH OF ENGLAND FOR A POSITIVE STEP FORWARD THANKS TO A POSITIVE BETTER POPE, THE FIRST YOU HAVE EVER HAD, EVERYONE EVERYWHERE MUST , WALK IN KINDNESS OR BE PROSECUTED FOR HARMING OTHERS , THEIR IS NO ESCUSES , FOR HURTING OTHERS, NONE, EVIL IS JUST EVIL AND HATE IS EVIL AND PRODUCES NOTHING BUT HARM AND EVILS DEEDS , ACTIONS,

  16. BracknellDavid 20 Nov 2013, 1:56pm

    Typical Church of England, your about 40 years too late , wake up and smell the coffee for goodness sake you ineffectual dopes, no wonder most of your churches now have empty pews .

  17. Colin (Queenstown) 27 Nov 2013, 11:44pm

    Please im normally one who would suggest talking but religion is a poison on this planet. PLease stay away from them. All they will do is bribe our fund raising and nothing changes but they keep ytheir power and can attempt to say to electorate they are understanding.
    get all religion off this planet and certainly out of Parliament.
    science is real. Religion stories.

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