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Australia: New South Wales equal marriage efforts fail as bill is narrowly defeated

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  1. It is a shame that politicians still fail to understand what the public are clearly saying when it comes to marriage equality.

    Let’s hope that if/when it comes back to the NSW Legislative Council that it will then pass.

  2. NSW is NOT the ‘second state’ as the ACT is The Australian Capital Territory, and is NOT a State of the Federation. It is one of the two self-governing Territories (the other being the Northern Territory.

    If you are going to write an article, check your damned facts first!

  3. bobbleobble 14 Nov 2013, 11:34am

    I think that part of the problem for some is the pending case before the Australian High Court next month. If there is a positive finding that the ACT can keep its equal marriage law then I’m sure that will have a knock on effect in places like NSW and Tasmania just as the DoMA case seems to have spurred action in the US. The possibility of the law being struck down might have swayed one or two to vote against.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 14 Nov 2013, 12:28pm

      If those more than 1,000 couples go to New Zealand to marry which could bring such a vast amount of money to the economy of that country, that too might well be a wake-up call. £472 million is a lot of money to lose and what an embarrassment for the Australian government it will be. Perhaps it will shame them into doing something positive about it.

  4. Robert in S. Kensington 14 Nov 2013, 12:23pm

    A very close vote and how sad it didn’t manage to get through. Have Australian politicians not learned anything from the rapid progress made this year around the world? You would think the mother country having passed it into law this past July would teach them something. The marriage equality train is moving ahead and Australia still refuses to get on board. Those who voted against it voted against the prosperity of Australia and its economy as thousands of gay Australians will go to New Zealand to spend their money and bolstering the NZ economy. It’s absolutely shameful and disgusting.

  5. Aspirational 15 Nov 2013, 12:16am

    One has to remember, Oz is a truly machismo country. Men don’t have feelings, just opinions.
    Over 10 years of Howard as Prime Minister and Murdoch owning the majority of the press, has left if it a very right wing country.
    Think a country where Daily Mail readers are in the majority.
    I left and I am not going back in a hurry.
    Thank you to my adopted UK home.

    1. MattISaTOOL 15 Nov 2013, 9:33am

      ‘Macho country’?. Keep your stereotypes to yourself and stop trying to assume everyone acts the same just by what you hear on tv or by your experiences. If I was gonna to your your ideology from what i hear, then British people don’t brush their teeth, dress formally and act like the queen and Americans are all rednecks. And the whole ‘macho’ thing isn’t just an Australia idea, its everywhere. Every heard of “Straight acting” within Gay/Bisexual men? But by the same token masculinity isn’t a negative thing either is femininity. If your this closet minded, I glad you left in the first place. However i will agree with you with something, that Howard/Murdoch did make Australia more conservative, but i feel that tide is changing.

      1. This is a pretty Macho country. Of course, there are pockets of inner city metrosexuals and men who are comfortable with themselves, but for the most part, you’re right. Men do tend to keep their feelings to themselves. Especially if you’re brought up in the country, like I was. Hopefully though, this is changing. I’d like to one day be able to walk down the street in Penrith, holding hands with my husband without feeling the need to always be on alert to run for our lives.

  6. MattISaTOOL 15 Nov 2013, 9:08am

    All right let me brake down why it failed because alot of people fail to realise how Australian politics work. It failed the upper house for multiple reasons. One of the reason is because of the 2 stupid minor parties. In the Australia election larger parties put their preferences to minor parties. Some of the minor parties like the motorist party received less then 0.1% of votes, but because they had preferences to larger parties they got in. This system is crap, and doesn’t reflect the Australian voters (And most likely will be changed in the next election ). The Australian sex party and Australia democratic party received more votes than these two and were suppose to be elected into NSW parliament . (Both these parties support gay marriage). Also quiet a few members of parliament support gay marriage BUT voted against because it would be channelled by the high court, and many felt they didn’t want people to marry and realise their marriage was invalid..

  7. MattISaTOOL 15 Nov 2013, 9:22am

    Also people need to realise same sex marriage is legalised if a country/state has a progressive majority. Even if this is not the case, if a state has 80% conservatives then it won’t past. In theory same sex marriage being legalised is really just luck of who the people vote for. People voted liberals (Australia conservative party) NOT because their socially conservative. Its usually an economic factor. Now What always happens in Australia, every few years states Switch to liberal and labor/greens (progressive). So Victoria ( Australian state) will most likely elect labor next year and therefore gay marriage will be legalised. When we get a Labor prime minster (which will occur most likely in 6 years). SSM will be legalised in All Australian States. Also i lived in both UK and Australia all my life.. Australia really isn’t less or more conservative in the UK. Politics doesn’t dictate the populations views. Reality is Australians hate theirpoliticians.We choose the lessor of two evils

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