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European Court of Justice rules gay asylum seekers can seek sanctuary in EU

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  1. Jock S. Trap 7 Nov 2013, 12:01pm

    About time too.

    I have serious issue over the “exercise restraint” argument. Again it’s all about sex. No-one would use that against race or gender so why sexual orientation?

    Time to wake up to a better decent society.

  2. So, the theory is that people can survive as long as they don’t try to love?

    There is a direct comparison to interracial relationships here. Why is this treated any differently? If there is a country out there that imposes torture, imprisonment and even death on those who have an interracial relationship, would they claim then that asylum was not reasonable? I very much doubt it. Why is sexuality treated so differently to race or religion?

    Why is it that so many of these public bodies STILL cannot understand LGBT issues in these countries and use accurate comparisons? Even in these highest courts and more rational governments there is still a very visible ignorance and bigotry toward LGBT equality.

    People persecuted for religious reasons have the ability to not practice that religion too, just to make life easier for them, but they don’t expect people suffering persecution for religious reasons to do that. So how on Earth can they justify someone doing so when it comes to sexuality?

  3. This is welcoming news, we should be providing a safe place for LGBT people fleeing persecution. Expect readers of the right wing rags to be up in arms though; “there will be loads of false asylum applications and they’re only here to claim benefits!”.

    1. Benefits claiming is not the most insane thing I’ve heard.
      Evidently, countries such as Russia will catch on to this and will send spies to ‘the west’ who pretend to be gays seeking asylum as a way of getting in.

  4. Robert in S. Kensington 7 Nov 2013, 12:57pm

    I find the ECJ incredibly hypocritical when on the one hand it states…“A person’s sexual orientation is a characteristic so fundamental to his identity that he should not be forced to renounce it”, while on the other it states that countries banning homosexuality aren’t grounds for approving asylum cases which implies one has to exercise restraint by not drawing attention to one’s self, keeping a low profile to avoid prosecution or worse, persecution. What if it were the case of a minority religious group, e.g. Christians in Syria targeted for entering a church to worship? Would they too have to exercise restraint and remain in their homes to worship instead? They’d be the first to be granted automatic asylum. Indeed, even some of our bigoted MPs have raised this very issue in Parliament but are silent when it comes to persecution and violence against Russian gays under the fascist Putin regime. ECJ is totally f_cked up.

    1. I’d imagine the ECJ is probably referring to countries like Namibia etc. where being gay is illegal by the book but the ban isn’t really enforced and gay people do live relatively openly.

      1. It should have said as much, so as to avoid the confusion.

      2. Robert in S. Kensington 7 Nov 2013, 4:27pm

        Maybe, but I still think the ECJ reasoning is intrinsically flawed even in countries where being gay isn’t illegal and ban’s aren’t enforced though I’d find it hard to believe that gay people aren’t retaliated against in some manner. We don’t always get to hear about it in the west, not everything is reported.

  5. A momentous decision, and one that will be welcomed by those LGBTs facing persecution in their home countries. Another decision reached by the Court held that the absence of a civil partnership for same-sex couples in Greece constitutes a violation of the European Convention on Human Rights, in particular Article 14 (prohibition of discrimination) and Article 8 (right to respect for private and family life). Greek LGBTs also have something to celebrate.

  6. Mumbo Jumbo 7 Nov 2013, 1:54pm

    “….A person’s sexual orientation is a characteristic so fundamental to his identity that he should not be forced to renounce it….”

    That needs making into a banner and trailed behind an aircraft – after which it should be carved into a floodlit granite cliff-face using five metre high letters.

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