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London: Peter Tatchell disrupts orchestral concert of Putin ally

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  1. Well done, Peter! You not only informed the famous Russian conductor, but the entire orchestra, a packed symphony hall, and all those around the world who have read of this today!

    1. Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit!

      1. duh? there’s nothing sarcastic in the above comment!

  2. BlokeToys 1 Nov 2013, 4:43pm

    And what, if anything, has the Barbican said about this?
    Did anyone from PN bother to call them and ask about the incident?

    Even if they refused to comment, it lends weight to the piece and gives a good indication of their position. They receive a lot of support and backing from the LGBT British public, and it’s important to find out what views a venue like this has about the issues affecting their audience and supporters.

    I’m becoming increasingly disappointed by the shallow reporting of PN, it often seems as though you’re just publishing what other sites have reported. All someone has to do is pick up a phone, explain who you are, and ask for an official opinion. Is that too hard to do?

    1. Agreed.

      But PN seems to be aiming for quantity of the lowest common denominator instead of any sort of quality control.

    2. Peter put out a Press Release earlier today. PN received a copy and duly posted it. I’m glad they did. Of course, you’re right, they could have created their own story out of it. But it’s all about choices in a newspaper office. Sometimes you just print a Press Release, and sometimes you investigate it and embellish it.

      1. BlokeToys 1 Nov 2013, 7:19pm

        I do appreciate that, but I have been reading stories on here for a long time and I don’t recall any instance where PN has actually pursued a story and sought statements. I may have simply missed examples of that, but I don’t think I have ever seen them say “we contacted *insert party* for a statement and…”

        This wouldn’t only support impartiality in reporting, but it would also assert PN as a proper news site and encourage readers to perhaps think more about the stories.

        As it is now, PN seems little more than a popular blog regurgitating stories from more thorough news sites.

        I really don’t mean to sound so critical, I do enjoy reading and commenting here, but for the cost of a phone call for each story they could gain a lot more credibility and perhaps gain an advantage that other news sites can’t be bothered to chase (within the LGBT news audience).

        1. Colin (London) 6 Nov 2013, 2:52am

          Folks they don’t have many staff. It’s either short and cover many or a few stories in depth. This is a free site. Please I just thought it might help to remind everyone of this

  3. Robert in S. Kensington 1 Nov 2013, 4:51pm

    What else would we expect from someone so courageous? Well done, Peter! I hear Russia is going to ban Elton John from performing there.

  4. Well done Peter Tatchell

  5. str8grandmother 1 Nov 2013, 5:48pm

    This.Is.AWESOME!!!
    You have made, in particular Queer Nation New York, very very proud I am sure.
    But literally EVERY sexual minority and their straight supporters THANKS Peter Tatchell.
    During Apartheid the world shunned South Africa we shunned them.
    Tell me the difference between South Africa’s Apartheid Laws and Putin’s anti gay laws?
    We need to shun Russia, shun them. No performer performs in Russia. Let all their stages, arenas and performance venues be completely DARK of non Russian actors, singers, orchestras etc. Nobody play in Russia. Just like in South Africa, the performers did NOT Play in Sun City. There was even an album cut about Not Playing in Sun City. We didn’t Play Sun City during Apartheid and nobody should pay in Russia today. Shun Russia, shun them. (except for Human Rights Meetings of Course) [It took a while for the movement to build but eventually nobody played Sun City. Set up a Shun Line Around Russia.

    1. Even though no Russian LGBT campaigners want such a boycott?
      Bizarre…

      1. Hi, Uncle Tom! Your whitewashing of the Putin regime has become too transparent.

  6. Orchestral surely, not ‘orchestrial’

    1. it was “orchestrial” because this was being put forth to the court of public opinion?
      ;-)

      that would actually make a great neologism: “orchestrial”, music that is being tested out on an unsuspecting public”

  7. That There Other David 1 Nov 2013, 6:51pm

    *applauds*

    Very nicely done Mr. Tatchell. Let’s hope those in the audience had their eyes opened a little as a result.

  8. Tatchell shows his concern for the human rights of all in Russia with an intelligent peaceful protest against a very rich self interested (possibly amoral) conductor. Well done.

  9. Scott Rose 2 Nov 2013, 12:32am

    Maestro Gergiev is a barf bucket. He publicly voiced support for the sentences given to the Pussy Riot members. Who in their right mind supports forced prison labor camp sentences for young females, because the young females participated in a 30 second long protest of a government’s policies? I don’t think that Gergiev’s vocal public support of throwing young women into hard labor in a prison camp can or should be taken as “just another opinion.” It is barbaric and cruel, and serves towards intimidating others out of ever criticizing the government. I question whether it is possible to be a decent person and contribute to Gergiev’s livelihood. People should think a little harder, maybe, about exactly what it means that he has publicly supported the prison labor camp sentences for Pussy Riot members.

  10. I wish the disruption had been more than “a short symbolic statement.”

  11. Criminal Code: Sexual relations and other action of a sexual nature with a person under the age of sixteen (16), Chapter 18, Article 134
    Sexual intercourse, buggery [‘muzhelozhstvo’] or lesbianism, committed by a person over 18 on a person admittedly under 14 is punishable by limitation of freedom up to three years or deprivation of freedom up to four years [R1.2] – Valery Gergiev agrees with this law and Tatchell does not , hence the intimidation from the homo-lobby .I’m sure Gergiev also disagrees with Tatchell when he said :

    The positive nature of some child-adult sexual relationships is not confined to non-Western cultures. Several of my friends – gay and straight, male and female – had sex with adults from the ages of nine to 13. None feel they were abused. All say it was their conscious choice and gave them great joy.

    While it may be impossible to condone paedophilia, it is time society acknowledged the truth that not all sex involving children is unwanted, abusive and harmful.

  12. Is it usual for the Barbican’s security staff to “beat up” disrupters of the concerts staged there?

  13. Spanner1960 4 Nov 2013, 8:27pm

    Oh FFS. Tatchell does it again.
    Whilst I applaud his sentiments and stance against Russia, this is just not the way to go about it. It just gives gay people a reputatin for throwing their toys out of the pram and being subversive in order to make a point.

    He was doing this crap 20+ years ago with Outrage, and he is still trying to pull off these ridiculous stunts now. They achieve nothing and just get peoples backs up.
    If you want to be active, sign petitions, organise demos, raise awareness, but please stop doing this sh|t, Peter, it just make you look an even bigger prat than you are, and more to the point, the rest of us as well.

    1. ‘His way’ does get things done. It puts our cause on the political agenda by getting it on the media’s agenda. It works in conjunction with the lobbying and letter writing and is of equal importance.

      Civil disobedience has and always will be an effective form of protest. Much like asking for a raise or an improvement in working conditions often tends to get a bit more notice if there’s a strike or work to rule accompanying it. The suffragette movement is better remembered for the ‘stunts’ than the solid campaigning. Both helped them win their battle. Neither would have worked on their own. South African apartheid wasn’t brought down by political pressure alone, the streets being ungovernable was a key part. Much like that, making homophobia a risky endeavour by public humiliation of its proponents, in the style of Peter Tatchell, will always pay dividends.

  14. Alex Verney-Elliott 7 Nov 2013, 4:52pm

    Valery Gergiev is a third rate conductor and the LSO is a third rate orchestra; Gergiev recorded terribly loud fascist performances of Strauss’s Elektra and Mahler’s Symphonies on the LSO’s naff CD label; Gergiev is a charlatan and a homophobe and fascist thug conductor so has a lot in common with fascist homophobe thug leader Putin!

  15. Peter Duncan 8 Nov 2013, 5:50am

    Good on Peter

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