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Ireland: Anglican Church accused of excluding gay members from LGBT event

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  1. Dan Filson 18 Oct 2013, 6:19pm

    I think I will create a new coinage – “an Irish invitation” – to mean one that invites all but those relevant to the event.

  2. Does anyone remember ‘Candid Camera’ on telly in the 60s?
    My favourite stunt was when they put an aquarium full of nothing but water in a pet shop window with a card in front saying ‘Invisible Malayan Fighting Fish’. A huge crowd gathered on the pavement, staring at it and looking bemused.
    But I suppose the analogy breaks down; at least the Candid Camera folk were pretending something was there.

  3. Derek Williams 18 Oct 2013, 6:54pm

    This is so ridiculous I am struggling to believe it’s not apocryphal.

    1. They obviously want to listen and gossip with people and groups talking about LGBT’s rather than to talk with us and listen to what real LGBT people have to say.

  4. The Church of Ireland covers the entire island of Ireland not just the Republic as your picture mistakenly shows PN! Do your homework!

  5. Just turn up at the event, invite yourselves. Changing Attitude should do a press call, inviting the local media to hear a statement, from openly LGBT church members, exposing the homophobia of the church. Use media relations techniques to give visibility to LGBT people and issues.

  6. Helge Vladimir Tiller 19 Oct 2013, 8:46am

    Hereby I send all my support to The LGBTQ community in Ireland. You certainly have something to fight against. Never give in to injustice. Love from Norway !

    1. The churches of Norway are free of homophobia? Didn’t think so. You also certainly have something to fight against. Never give in to injustice.

  7. This “Christian” church excluded the teachings of Jesus long ago, what’s now so surprising that LGBT’s have been excluded from its “listening process” on same-sex relationships.

  8. Jock S. Trap 19 Oct 2013, 11:05am

    Catholic Church = Hate!

    1. But this article is about the Anglican church.

    2. #Jock – maybe read the article?

  9. Been on to their website and really it’s like watching snails reprainting a wall yet again !can I just say
    1) I’m no apologist for religion as a recovering catholic
    2) They genuinely seem to be trying to understand that gay people are out , proud, and visible participants in society and shock horror some of them may be in their”communion”
    3) they don’t have anybody on their consultative committee as none on the persons on it are “out” however they are welcome for co-optees
    4) thus :-LGBTQ Anglican Church in Ireland people get your finger out and contact them ,get your voice heard, get co- opted , tear open their pinhole view and show them a bit of welcoming LGBTQ reality
    5) apparently they’re the second biggest religious group in All Ireland
    6) sorry if 4) sounds a bit happy clappy but this is an opportunity to make friends rather than enemies

    1. 4) has already been addressed, in the article it says…

      Charles Kenny said he “had offered a list of names to the organisers of openly gay and lesbian members of the church who were willing to attend, but not one of them has been invited.””

  10. Robert in S. Kensington 19 Oct 2013, 2:17pm

    It’s no different than the Anglican cult in mainland UK. All the posturing about how badly it has treated gay people, yet no official dialogue inviting LGBT people for open discussion. So far, only Peter Tatchell has managed to have one solitary meeting with Welby, but nothing else has been forthcoming. It’s an absolute disgrace and proves just how much homophobia remains among the hierarchy.

    Now, if there was a serious movement in the UK for disestablishment, you can bet they’d be anxious to have discussions. Until then, they remain our enemies and oppressors along with their like-minded flock including those in Parliament.

  11. I don’t think any dialogue with these people is needed to begin with.

    This “war” has gone on all my life, the religious factions of our countries have not changed at all in all that time. They are just as loathsome and hypocritical as they have always been.

    Instead of demanding inclusion into a cult, we should be limiting the reach of these cults and focusing our efforts on governments, demanding a separation of Church and State in every facet, demanding they not be given the microphone like they’re some kind of authority.

    This group of religious crazies should not be given any more power or attention than the local knitting club, yet they continuously pop up preaching their nonsense to society on news channels and “advising” government on a society they do not understand.

    Open LGBT in religious groups should fight if they like, good luck to them. The rest of us should be working to limit their reach in society as a whole.

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