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Killer of gay man denied right to vote by UK Supreme Court

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  1. An unpopular stance: but NOBODY should be denied a vote.

    Rhetoric about people being inhuman or sacrificing their human rights through their actions isn’t going to change my mind.

    1. I used to think that nobody should be allowed the right to vote while they were in prison and that once they’d been released they’d get their right back, i.e. at the end of their punishment. Maybe on a level i still do, but part of me knows it’s a tad simplistic.

    2. I agree, the thing about human rights is they apply to even the vilest of people, and taking part in democracy is an important human right… I’d say even more important for prisoners, as their lives are highly affected by who the government is.

  2. I don’t think the state should have the right to take anyone’s voting rights away. The right to vote should be completely unconditional, including for prisoners

  3. Colin (London) 16 Oct 2013, 3:22pm

    Sorry to me if in prison you chose to be there by your actions. Actions have consequences and one I agree with is the loss of the vote.

  4. As an ex offender and having served a short prison sentence I am very much a supporter of prisoners having the right to vote. However there are some prisoners by the nature of their offence who have forfeited the right to the human rights which ordinary people accept.

    TheGovernment needs to decide where the line should be drawn.

    As an example should we really be denying inmates who serve less than 5 years (the period between general elections) the right to participate in the democratic system of this country.

    If MPs thought there were some votes in it then they might just take an interest in what happens to prisones inside and when they come out with nowhere to go, no friends, no income, no job. Rehabilitiation is a seriously underfunded joke.

    Most inmates have little education and many cannot read or write. Put some money into that and teaching the less able in schools then we might be on the way to reducing the prison population which is currently the highest in Europe.

  5. Jock S. Trap 16 Oct 2013, 3:25pm

    Good. They are being punished for a crime in which the taxpayer funds their keep.

    These ‘rights’ are for the free not the imprisoned they forefitted that when they were sentenced.

    Start allowing this and then what?

  6. john lyttle 16 Oct 2013, 3:30pm

    I think it would be wonderful if life prisoners like these could vote when we take the return of hanging to the national ballot vote.

  7. listen you loos certain rights when you go into prison if you want to vote then don’t commit the crime. Makes me laugh how he thinks he as any rights piece of scum. History of trouble and then killed this bloke- why should he have any rights -what about the right of the person he killed?

  8. Hmm, I wonder what party he would be voting for?

  9. This is a very difficult one.
    One part of me says that when you commit a violent crime you give up your rights to be recognized as a member of society for the period of time in punishment.
    However, another part of me believes that the right to vote is as vital to society, as a whole, as air or water.

    If someone is being government, they should have the right to express their view regarding who is governing them.

    It might not be a popular stance to take, but I believe that even prisoners should have that basic right. They are being governed just like the rest of us.

    I think there is far too much knee-jerk reaction and politicizing of this subject. Looking at the BBC HYS on this topic is almost frightening with people expressing entirely totalitarian views almost suitable for North Korea.

    Most of those incarcerated are not there for murder, child abuse or rape. It’s important to remember that fact.

  10. He should have got the rope.

    1. We did away with executions for a reason.

      There is plenty of evidence that potentially thousands of innocent people were murdered by the state, and there have been numerous cases in just the last twenty years of people who WOULD have been executed if we had such a punishment but were then released and exonerated for the crimes they were imprisoned for.

      Executions are not the way to go, no matter how horrific the crime.

  11. Yet again, when it comes to LGBT justice, the UK leads by example. To my mind, no individual who wantingly commits murder, a heinous crime against society as a whole [because usually it touches so many], should be awarded the right to vote.

  12. Robert in S. Kensington 16 Oct 2013, 4:10pm

    Violent criminals serving prison sentences should not be allowed the privilege to vote from within. It’s a different matter when they are released and become hopefully productive members of society and have been rehabilitated excluding recidivists who don’t deserve the right to vote. The criminal in this context forfeited his right to vote when they committed such a heinous criminal act against another person. That said, I don’t see why white collar criminals should be denied the right to vote.

  13. Robert in S. Kensington 16 Oct 2013, 4:14pm

    oops…when he committed such a heinous act…

  14. I don’t see why ‘white collar criminals’ should be treated any differently form any other criminals! The key word is ‘Criminals’

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