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  1. Beelzeebub 14 Oct 2013, 8:17pm

    Sorry. But this is LSE offender appeasement 101.

    Some of us had sh!t childhoods but felt no need whatsoever to go and bash others.

    What pseudo psychological tripe are they teaching these days.

    Jail time for the gay basher. End of. Not interested that his father/mother is an alcoholic Black, White, Green, Muslim, Christian etc.

    They CHOSE to bash. Hurt others lives.

    They PAY for that.

    Not get all this support that the victim does not get.

  2. Beelzeebub 14 Oct 2013, 8:21pm

    Oh. And all paid for by the tax payer.

    The swine that bashed me on my way to work, forgot to mention to me that my taxes would be paying for his legal support whilst I was off work for 6 months with a brain aneurism.

    PS: Why do I pay taxes to keep idiots like you in a job.

    1. Fried Stephen 15 Oct 2013, 2:30pm

      Beelzeebub… the offender in prison is also a tax payer. When he is in prison for bashing or whatever, it is likely his probation officer will require him to complete a program before he is released in order to change the way he thinks and acts. There is no point sending an offender to prison if they come out and do the same thing again. The taxpayer would not get good value for money if they kept paying for the same service over and over. The offender’s paid taxes service your medical requirements once he has bashed you, pay for the police to arrest him, fund victim support and even fund campaigns against his own hate. The tax argument is dead in the water, and an excuse to promote more hate in the guise that the tax payer is better than everyone else, when in fact, we are all tax payers and are equal in terms of human rights. By your rant, it seems like you may be on your way out to bash a psychologist!

  3. Nobody is saying that offendors shouldn’t be punished, but surely must see the benfits of working with offenders rather than just locking them up and ignoring them for a few years, only to be released with exactly the same mindset as before?

    It’s actually very interesting to listen to someone who talks on a level with the offenders to get an insight to what’s really going on in their heads. Sure they shouldn’t have done it, but they did. Why? How can we stop them from doing it again? Just because you committed a crime does not make you an idiot

    1. Hear, hear. Regarding prison, I would go further: these characters tend to see themselves as the victims and the persecuted against all the evidence, and if their ideas are not tackled, the prison time is yet another martyrdom inflicted on them by a ‘liberal conspiracy’ and thus more fuel to their false sense of grievance.

  4. E. Carpenter 15 Oct 2013, 12:57am

    The gay people that gay bashers hate are the imaginary gay people in their minds. Those imaginary gay people are the products of urban myths they heard as kids or adults, accusations against gay people preached in their local church or synagogue or mosque or temple, images they’ve seen on tv or in comics – and I agree with them, the imaginary gay people in their minds are bad people, I would not like them either. Luckily, I don’t know any gay people like that.

    Of course those imaginary gay people aren’t like the millions of real gay people in Britain – and that’s where any therapy needs to start, by replacing the scary imaginary gay people in gay-basher’s minds with interactions with the stories of actual, real gay people, who are mostly quite ordinary and likable.

    To stop gay-bashers, we also need to challenge influential religious people who say we’re all predators and pedophiles and recruiters who force sex on unwilling straight men. Those lies produce bashers.

  5. Robert in S. Kensington 15 Oct 2013, 12:49pm

    In addition to rehabilitating the offenders which I support, what about sensitivity training for homophobes in Parliament and the CoE? They two are part of the problem, supposedly educated people. There are many sitting there who oppose LGBT equality which sends a negative signal to the gay bashers and killers. The fact that one of them, Tory MP Peter Bone has managed to get a private member’s bill to second reading on the 29th of November for a referendum to repeal the Equal Marriage Bill is an indication of just how much hatred there is towards us. Calling for such a repeal is a singular act of pure hatred and I hope he and his hate bill will be defeated overwhelmingly.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 15 Oct 2013, 1:31pm

      ..they too are part of the problem..

  6. Julian Morrison 15 Oct 2013, 4:32pm

    Thank you for doing this. And thank you for bringing evidence based analysis to a problem, without which the discussion too readily devolves into pet theories.

    The only thing I wonder about this is, does targeting the few allow the many to monster them and escape considering their own racism, etc?

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