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US Mormon Church: Equal marriage is ‘immoral’ in the eyes of God

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  1. It’s scary how much straight people think we give a crap about their opinions.

  2. Says the bloke whose ridiculous church changes its doctrines every time they’re caught out breaking the law. Hey guys, just had a revelation, ‘god’ says being gay is okay.

    1. Yes, remember Mormon attitude to black people and the mark of Cain, they never changed their doctrine on that did they…oh wait a minute I think they did
      Black people were permitted to be members of the church but racial restrictions stayed firmly in place until 1978, persons with any black African ancestry could not hold the priesthood in the LDS Church and could not participate in most temple ordinances, including the endowment and celestial marriage.
      Guess he has a short memory.

      1. And polygamy!

      2. And, of course, that earlier convenient revelation that polygamy wasn’t God’s will any more.

      3. BlokeToys 7 Oct 2013, 2:00pm

        But of course, these religious hypocrites will pick and choose what parts of their religious texts and “traditional values” they’ll purport to support, while conveniently ignoring their previous blatant abuses.

        These people are all sick in the head. It’s a fact that if someone were talking in the same way in public about their belief in purple ponies living on Mars, they would rightly be called mentally ill. But in this case, believing in something completely unproven, and using that insanity to attack others who disagree with you, is considered perfectly normal!

        The best part about all of this is their insistence that homosexuality is “not normal”, when it’s witnessed throughout nature. Strangely, the belief in invisibly sky wizards issuing orders from above is limited to Humans.

        That tells me all I need to know about what is “normal” in nature.

  3. In Romans the scripture condemns a group of heterosexuals going against their nature by taking part in ritual same sex acts of Pagan worship.
    It is clear that going against ones homosexual nature is similarly immoral and would also be condemned by Paul and by the Christian God he was currently inventing at the time of his writing.

  4. Tim Hanafin 7 Oct 2013, 12:08pm

    Head of Mickey Mouse made up religion says what? Oh who gives a f#ck!

  5. Beelzeebub 7 Oct 2013, 12:12pm

    There is an extraneous “M” in that word.

    It should read MORON.

    For any idiot to believe that this cult, founded by Joseph Smith, Jr. in 1840, which drew its first converts while said Smith was dictating the text of the Book of Mormon from Golden Plates he said he found buried after being directed to their location by an angel they need to be truly MORONIC.


    1. The Angel Moroni is, in Mormonism, an angel that visited Joseph Smith, Jr.
      I guess convicted fraudster Joseph Smith lost his bottle and added the extra “m” because he didn’t think Moronism would take off.

  6. They can change it, if it suits them… see 1978 and black priests…

  7. PantoHorse 7 Oct 2013, 12:28pm

    The bible also says you shouldn’t:
    Eat swine
    Eat shellfish
    Wear mixed fibres
    Have tattoos
    Cutting the corners of your hair and beard
    Entering the house of god with ‘injured private parts’
    Consulting psychics
    Cursing one’s parents
    Remarrying after divorce
    Sex before marriage
    Allowing women to speak in church
    Working on the sabbath
    Oh, and judging other people…. the list goes on

    But don’t let that stop you when you’re selecting which bits of the bible you want to follow and interpreting them in ways that were more than likely never intended.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 7 Oct 2013, 12:46pm

      The most infamous verse, the one in Leviticus 20:13 calling homosexuality an abomination is another one they cherry pick very carefully because the rest of the verse which they conveniently omit calls for our being put to death.

      1. David Hancock 7 Oct 2013, 6:30pm

        Leviticus 20:13 has also been changed a lot in translation. In the original Hebrew the word translated as “lie” means commit a deviant sexual act with rather than just sleep with (i.e perverted sexual act is out whether with a man or a woman, but loving sex is ok with either). But then lots of translations into Latin and then English distorted many of the meanings and translations in the Bible.

        1. I think you’ve fallen into the trap of giving the bible ‘credence’. IT IS A NOVEL. It’s a lot of made-up nonsense. To discuss it as ‘fact’ and afford it serious discussion is like believing in Peter Pan. Let’s get real, people. Talking snakes, women made from a man’s rib and people coming back to life after lying in a tomb for three days? We eventually tell kids the Tooth Fairy and Santa don’t exist. But why do we never seem to come clean about all this rubbish….?

  8. Fortunately, Oaks (like Boyd K. Packer) has been losing credibility among younger Mormons, and he’s constantly at odds with Mormon moderates and the various Mormon gay rights reform movements (Affirmation: Gay and Lesbian Mormons, Mormons for Equality, Mormons Building Bridges, Mormons for Marriage (Equality), etc.).

    The funny thing? Shortly before Oaks gave this speech, another apostle, Dieter Uchtdorf (from Germany and generally far more moderate and compassionate than Oaks or Packer), gave a speech where he said that church leaders can and do make mistakes. It helped put the entire thing in context.

    Someday, future Mormons may look back, and pity people like Oaks and Packer for their coldness and lack of compassion.

    (I’m a gay man from a progressive-leaning Mormon family who all traditionally support gay rights and equality. I’m also a regular reader of Pink News.)

    1. Dallin Oaks has made a glaring mistake, he meant to say ” Equal marriage is ‘immortal’ in the eyes of God”

  9. alexoloughlin 7 Oct 2013, 12:43pm

    Interesting that he admits being gay isn’t a choice but other than that, a load of hocus pocus. Who really gives a damn what these clowns say or believe? I’ve seen better wizardry in the Harry Potter series.

  10. The scariest thing of all is that this individual used to be a Supreme Court judge.

  11. The Mormon leaders are all fraudsters following in the twice convicted footsteps of their fraudster founder Joseph Smith

  12. CH Brighton 7 Oct 2013, 1:25pm

    My response to the headline? UK Gay Man: Religious bigotry is immoral in the eyes of decent people.

  13. God doesn’t exist.

  14. In other news, the KKK states it does not like black people….

  15. He admits that homosexuality can’t be helped. It is therefore God-given. So what the f#ck was God’s point in creating it if he just wanted people to resist it? Makes no sense – like all their other bullshlt they believe in.

  16. Colin (London) 7 Oct 2013, 2:44pm

    Another irrelevant, money grabbing, church.. Says it all. Adds nothing to the discussion and thinks because he has a pr agency we should listen. Think not ..more scum.

  17. the title should be rephrased as “US Mormon Church: Equal marriage is ‘immoral’ in the eyes of HIS money launder’n…homophobic…GHOST (God)…who’s ideals…like himself…will be push’n up daisys soon enough!”

  18. Stephen Hill 7 Oct 2013, 4:36pm

    My Fiance is an gay ex-morman and thought you should know the church’s leader is Thomas Monson and Dallin H Oaks is just a member of the Quorum of Twelve – Still important but NOT the leader (although the leader almost certainly would agree)

  19. Former judge? Who gives a damn. He’s a idiot. I guess he speaks to his gawd like Bill O’Reilly.

  20. I pity gay Mormons – and have known some. As individuals Mormons can be so lovely, but it seems such a silly invention. Atheism much more compassionate.

  21. For being and ex Mormon and being a lesbian I hadn’t come out until I was 34 and a divorce behind me. I try to do what was taught to me but I just couldn’t deny some feelings I had. My parents hadn’t seen me in 2 years since I came out but now are planning a trip to see me and my true love. Its been a tough road I have a lot of friends that are very LDS and they show love to me but to them they feel it is my choice. Also I can’t stand when they say you can be Gay and Be a Mormon but you can’t act on it, its like say hear is your Birthday cake you can have but you can’t taste it!

  22. I think you’ll find that it is hatred which is immoral. God was telling me only yesterday; he thinks religious leaders who profess to speak for him are vile, disgusting charlatans who should be locked-up. He says to tell them that, when he wants anyone to speak on his behalf, he’ll tell them OR come down and do it for him / herself (it was a bad line and I couldn’t quite make out which sex ‘god’ is). Oh – and he / she says I should get treatment for imagining I was speaking to him / her and I should take with me all the other nutjobs who make handsome livings from doing the same.

  23. This makes me sad and angry. I’m pleased Mormons are accepting of homosexuality but humanity will never fully evolve into more than savagery whilst religious dogma holds us back.

  24. sean burrowes 7 Oct 2013, 7:27pm

    FACT. The leader of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is President Monson. Just saying.

  25. violets49 7 Oct 2013, 9:17pm

    Should we be surprised by this?

  26. Point of Correction: Dallin H. Oaks is NOT the leader of the Mormon church. He is only the fifth most senior member. The current leader is Thomas S. Monson.

  27. St Sebastian, the humanist 8 Oct 2013, 12:35am

    How does this guy profess to know what is in the ‘eyes of god’? If he knows what is in the eyes of god, then he must have evidence and I would like to see this proof.

  28. Thomas S. Monson 8 Oct 2013, 12:41am

    Fact: Mormon “Apostle” Dallin H. Oaks has been married to two different Mormon women for “all eternity” in Mormon temple marriages.

    This vile old homophobic pond scum, while telling his Gay “Brothers and Sisters” they must remain celibate for life, actually believes he’ll have two “sister wives” to screw in Mormon heaven for all eternity. They’ll produce his “Spirit Children” who will populate his planet in a galaxy far far away near Kolob.

    This heinous cult is so ludicrous someone should write a comedy musical about it, they’d make a killing. LOL

  29. Cade in Aus 8 Oct 2013, 2:50am

    Homosexuals exist. God does not.

  30. marshlander 8 Oct 2013, 8:12am

    Accepting that some people are gay is a relatively new phenomenon in the LDS church. Previous presidents, such as Ezra Taft Benson and Spencer W. Kimball, were convinced that homosexuality did not exist as a state, but only as immoral sexual acts. Kimball’s vile book, “The Miracle of Forgiveness” was nearly the death of me. During the seventies he found the funding for the secret torture of students at Brigham Young University who had either admitted having “same-sex attractions” or who had been outed by others. Such students were blackmailed into undergoing experimental aversion therapy under threat of losing their college places and of being disgraced in the eyes of family, congregation and community. That was a powerful incentive to comply. The therapy sounded pretty much like Alex’s treatment in “A Clockwork Orange” and resulted in many broken people, but no success in “curing” their homosexuality.

    1. marshlander 8 Oct 2013, 8:14am

      Boyd K Packer, who is in line to be the next president when Monson dies, is far worse. He is a homophobe of the highest order and has several years experience of spreading the most disgusting lies about lgbt people.

      The time will eventually come when their god will “reveal” that the time has come to accept all “couples who aspire to marry in love” or some similar coded message. However, It will not be before LDS Inc has been threatened with losing a substantial part of its money as happened in 1978 when “God” finally “revealed” to President Kimball that “all worthy males may hold the priesthood”. In the nineteenth century President Brigham Young taught that no one having a single drop of African blood in their bodies would ever be admitted to full church membership and that inter-racial marriage required the immediate spilling of the blood of both parties. The most recently deceased president, Gordon B Hinckley, lied on national television that he didn’t know the church “ever taug

      1. marshlander 8 Oct 2013, 8:16am

        ht that”. For information all Mormon presidents (along with fourteen other men) are revered within the cult as prophets.

        I know most people here see Mormon belief as irrelevant and ridiculous, but the point is that while all this vile politicking is going on, many Mormon families, often (but not exclusively) in Utah, are throwing their gay sons and daughters out on the street and many of those see the only way out of their predicaments as being suicide. It has to stop.

        Sorry for the long reply. I hope it helps place this story in some context.

  31. God loves us all gay and straight. He does desire us to be in committed relationships, but we are okay. He wants a relationship with us all!

  32. Darling get back to lal lal land, your being missed.

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