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Irish Prime Minister backs Limerick’s Gay Games bid

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  1. This seems like a great idea as it’s a fantastic part of the world and I’m glad to see Enda putting his weight behind it.

    This may also be an attempt to change Limerick’s image as the place has been called ‘Stab City’ for years.

    If you google stab city, Limerick is the top result returned.

    1. # Gabe – Way to undermine Limerick’s bid before it’s even gotten off the ground! ‘Stab City’ was coined by the Irish national (tabloid) press not because Limerick had necessarily high incidences of stabbings but relatively high incidences compared to the rest of the Republic. Limerick has relatively less crime compared to London which sucessfully hosted the actual Olympic Games last year in its ‘notorious’ East End. Try to stay focused.

      1. Hi Graham,
        I understand your point entirely.
        I’ve been to Limerick many times and it’s fine however, this is a label that has been applied to the city and no doubt hosting the games there would give more visibility to place and show its true identity.
        I’m not supporting the view, merely reporting it and whilst Limerick does have less crime than London I believe its impact on the community could be greater when compared to London just because of the population size. Limerick City has just over 55,000 people compared to over 8 million in London.

        I still believe that the games, and also the allocation of City of Culture in 2014, will go a great way towards changing the image of the city.

        1. So why go straight to the ridiculous ‘stab city’ label then? The focus should be on what Limerick can do for the Games, not what the Games can do for Limerick. I think you’re missing the point.

          1. I’m really not missing the point. The two are intrinsically linked.

            If the city has a negative image and the gay games can go some way to improving that image then the games will have been seen to succeed all the more.

            A positive impact on a city in Ireland, where there isn’t clearly accepted equality, is a great thing which would be seen to be an even greater achievement if the event directly promotes the gay success.

            I genuinely do see your point about maybe perpetuating the label but seeing this disappear through a cultural change that is in some way brought about by these games, is a challenge and a wonderful opportunity.

          2. #Gabe. Yes, there is a link between the two but to say the two are intrinsically linked is an overstatement. Again, it’s about what the host city can do for the Games and not the other way round. Host cities can generally claim post-event benefits and an image boost. It’s pretty much a given. Such benefits are a bonus, not the objective. I’m not sure why you’re labouring this in Limerick’s case?

            Aside from this, where in the world is there ‘clearly accepted equality’? Would you walk down Brixton High Street holding your partner’s hand? Or through the streets of the 18th arrondissement? Don’t be so complacent.

  2. While Limerick may be a suitable city I don’t think Ireland deserve s the Games considering they plan a public vote on whether LGBT deserve equal civil rights.

    I know that the Irish constitution requires this but it remains utterly detestable that civil rights are determined by vote.

    1. I disagree that the games shouldn’t be held in Limerick and I’m not sure about he word ‘deserves’.

      I think this is exactly the kind of place where the games and events like it should be held because if not, we end up only ever ‘preaching to the converted’.

      Given a vote is to take place, any opportunity to raise awareness and provide positive messages should be grasped with both hands and implemented with total enthusiasm.

      1. To allow same-sex marriage in Ireland requires constitutional change and to change the constitution requires a referendum, no matter what the issue. This cannot be changed just for us gays. It’s the law. It would be illegal of the politicians to bypass this process. Odds on the people will vote in favour next year. All in due course. The neigh-sayers won’t have any recourse and that’ll be the end of it. In what other country will its citizens be able to say marriage equality is a reality because it’s what the majority of people actively sought rather than having been foisted upon them by a small group of elitist politicians (as many were claiming in France earlier this year)? Limerick shouldn’t be denied the Games because of Ireland’s constitutional process. Best of luck to Limerick!

        1. Steve C, why do you have to comment the same thing on every Irish related article? We get it, shut up!

        2. David Jordan 1 Oct 2013, 6:45pm

          It’s a myth that the Irish constitution forbids gay marriage, putting our rights to public vote was a way for the ruling coalition to avoid another situtation that would split the two parties.
          The current government have little commitment to gay rights, it was not long ago that they shot down a bill that would have extended anti-discrimination laws to religious run institutions like the majority of schools in Ireland, meaning that a teacher can still be fired solely because he is gay.
          They are yet to set the date for this referendum on our civil and human rights but where able to set a date for a vote that would give them far more power and less oversight.
          Labour and Fine Gael don’t really seem to concerned about our rights and I as a Gay Irish person don’t believe that Ireland should get an influx of pink cash while its schools are not safe places for openly gay students and teachers.

          1. David can you provide evidence that it is a myth? I can provide you with evidence that it does require a change in the constitution. I practice and study the law as a gay Irish man too!

          2. David Jordan 1 Oct 2013, 10:37pm

            At no point does the Irish constitution define marriage as being solely being between a man and woman, so go on Bryan prove to me that it would require a referendum.
            By the way Bryan, are you a member of Fine Gael or the their Labour allies?

          3. David, marriage in Ireland’s constitution has been interpreted as between one man and one woman by Irelands high court.^ This means the constitution defines it as such. Simple as. You can beat that dead horse theory of yours for 10 years or just get on with the referendum and get equal marriage soon. You have yet to prove anything to what you stated.

            ^http://courts.ie/judgments.nsf/6681dee4565ecf2c80256e7e0052005b/a4fe4e30eef23925802572790040d30c?OpenDocument&Highlight=0,zappone

  3. Limerick is exactly the sort of city which should host the Gay Games – small, easy to get around, sports-crazy. The Games will be lost in a metropolis like London, but in Limerick, the whole city will have to get involved.

    If the Gay Games wants to be relevant, there’s no point going to huge, anonymous cities where the public already expect there to be lots of LGBTs. The Games needs to go to smaller towns and show how LGBT people make a contribution there too.

  4. Jock S. Trap 2 Oct 2013, 9:35am

    NIce but London is the best place for it in 2018!! :)

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