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US: New Jersey Governor to appeal against judge’s ruling in favour of equal marriage

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  1. Robert in S. Kensington 28 Sep 2013, 1:59pm

    He will lose!

    1. Godric Godricson 28 Sep 2013, 4:45pm

      He’s swimming against the tide

  2. Strongfemme 28 Sep 2013, 3:07pm

    Bravo for Judge Jacobson making the obvious correct decision! Can someone explain Christie’s popularity with his backward right wing views??
    The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.
    From the beginning of time people have tried to justify slavery, segregation, bigotry and inequality as God’s plan when in fact dark forces feed such evils.
    Love, respect and equality cannot be trounced by the forces of ignorance and acrimony. Religious? Ethical? You’re talking about discrimination. It is not ethical to arbitrarily mark out a group of people as less than other people.
    As far as religion goes the constitution makes it clear that no religion is to be placed above others.
    Just because your religion disapproves does not mean that society must. Shame on Gov. Christie for his cynical use of marriage equality to bolster his bona fides with a homophobic political base.

    1. It’s actually easy to understand – Christie is desperately trying to live in two worlds, as both a Republican and as a moderate. After Superstorm Sandy, he publicly thanked President Obama for his assistance after New Jersey was so devastated – and for the cardinal sin of being nice with Obama, he was banned from the next Republican national gathering. Thing is, the Republican Party nationally is now cynically contemptuous of moderation, and Christie is forced to appease the party’s far right base or they will mobilize to purge him for ideological impurity, just as they have purged countless other Republican moderates in recent years. Christie is playing a game that will only fail for him, no matter what he tries to do.

      Moderate Republican former Utah government Jon Huntsman Jr. has already come to peace with this lesson. He has already been practically disowned by the party for his moderation, and now he co-chairs the anti-extremism organization No Labels.

  3. New Jersey will become number 14 in the US – the side of hate will lose faster and faster here ….
    Minnesota was 13 and my husband and I married on September 26 …. feels so good..
    So come on NJ kick Christie where it hurts.

  4. Come on, UK, you must admit if it weren’t for the American political circus, you’d have no news.

    For us here in the US, “news” is like watching a string of Disney-fied 2-minute stories. “Obama said something, right wing said something, too, and for the remaining 50 minutes, we’ll talk about the gay wannabe Justin Bieber learning how to “twerk” his white flat ass while on drugs, then we’ll watch baby pandas for the last 20 minutes.”

    The more intelligent Americans (from last census, most are Gay), watch/read international news sources such as PinkNews or GNN in Australia.

  5. michaelandfred 28 Sep 2013, 3:16pm

    A lose/lose for him. He should just stop and say while not his opinion, one person shouldn’t stand in the way of the whole state. He’s either going to lose in the courts or the legislature will manage a veto override, now more probable than ever. Either way he’ll look out of touch and petulant. Not what you want preparing a presidential bid.

  6. Yet more public money being wasted. If he loses he should have to pay it back out of his own pocket.

    1. bobbleobble 28 Sep 2013, 5:35pm

      Christie only cares about saving public money when saving money doesn’t cause him problems. He’s arranged a special election to fill New Jersey’s second senate seat three weeks before the New Jersey gubernatorial election later this year. This therefore requires two state wide elections and all that brings with it twice in less than a month all because Christie doesn’t want to be on the same ballot paper as Cory Booker, the Democratic nominee for Senate. He’s not worried about losing to his gubernatorial opponent, she’s just a sacrificial lamb. But he is worried about not being able to claim he is the most popular politician in New Jersey. Booker receiving more votes for senate than Christie for governor would seriously dent his ego.

      This appeal is purely because he wants to prove to the right wing loons that select the Republican’s presidential nominee that he really is a conservative. I don’t think he actually gives a damn about gay people marrying, it’s all a political game.

  7. Whats to appeal, and to whom ? The Judge was already applying the Supreme Courts actions and rationale in striking down DOMA. !!!

  8. “Shame on Gov. Christie for his cynical use of marriage equality to bolster his bona fides with a homophobic political base.”
    You could say exactly the same thing about Putin in Russia …..

  9. Jock S. Trap 28 Sep 2013, 4:30pm

    He’s a homophobic idiot. Why do they always end up with such power?

    Here’s hoping he loses and starts to get real and treat his tax payers decently and fairly.

    1. Paula Thomas 28 Sep 2013, 11:40pm

      No. I thiink he’s worse than that. I think he is cynical. He’s playing up an issue that appeals to his base so they turn out on election day in November in the hope of winning the state legislature. Why else would he attempt to give Democrats voting fatigue by having the special election for the senate seat just before the main mid term national and local elections.

  10. LOL good luck with that one

  11. He has high political aspirations – he think that currently his popularity in the NJ state will get him re- elected next year without the LGBT vote so he can try gaining credo with his Republican masters by fighting on even if he loses the appeal.
    He wants to run for President in 2016 so badly he’s even gone as far as having lap-band stomach surgery in February 2013 to lose some of that mountain of lard he waddles around with.
    But he’s going nowhere the Republican elite don’t forgive or forget his past transgressions, even George W Bush saw him as a fool – hard to imagine.
    He sided with Obama too closely to the last Presidential elections and he’s always going to be a the fat Jersey Shore boy in the eyes of the white southern male billionaires who run the Republican party.
    And to be honest pie boy can be as nasty as he likes to us because it’s going to happen either now through the courts or as part of the state referendum in 2014.

  12. Chris Christie IS the “Ugly American”

  13. Why doesn’t he quit his post as governor and buy himself a white sequinned jumpsuit, he could become a fat Elvis impersonator instead of trying to destroy gay peoples lives.

    1. More likely he’d rather do – pardon the pun – Bruce Springsteen who he has seen perform over 130 times. That’s plain creepy.

      1. Ironically, Springsteen is a SCREAMING liberal and staunch marriage equality supporter.

        1. If a one to one with Springsteen could be arranged it might solve the problem entirely, even a telephone call from Bruce might do it.
          Somebody must be able to arrange it.

  14. Playing to the right didn’t work for Romney and it won’t work for Christie, do these people not learn?

    1. No – I honestly don’t think they do. They’ ll play the same hand again in 2016 and the media will play along to make it out to be a close run thing. But Republican hard line ideology has had its day and no matter how much money rich old white men throw at the campaign it won’t change the impact altered demographics and modern opinion on fairness has had on the voting patterns of America.
      If a black man can win twice in increasingly nasty campaigns it just shows how, like the the Catholic Church, the Republican Party is completely out of touch with the real world.

    2. The problem is, no Republican can win the Republican primary without playing to the most extreme right-wing fringes. Only the most rabid right-wingers vote in the primaries. Republican candidates know that they won’t even have a chance to run for president if they don’t first win the Party nomination. It’s a real Catch 22.

  15. This may be the last straw for some of the Republicans in the New Jersey House and Senate when the veto override vote comes up after the November election.

  16. It will be easier for the Garden State to finally adopt marriage equality. Christie is only trying to appease the far-right reflexes of the national Republican Party, because there’s still a remote possibility he could run for President and he would have to win in party primary. Ultimately Christie simply does not have the power to prevent equal marriage in New Jersey.

    It will be more difficult for Pennsylvania, whose politics are more complicated than the rest of the Northeast. Pennsylvania has been described as “Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, with Alabama inbetween” – the Appalachian Mountain region is very rural and very conservative, and is one of the reasons Pennsylvania remains a swing state in national elections.

    1. Interesting comments Dermot – though, if Christie plays to the extremists to further his ambitions within the Republican Party, then arguably he is less likely to win support of enough Americans to win a majority. The Republicans should have learnt this last year, and it seems Christie is going to follow the same failed strategy of appeasement as Romney.

      1. Republicans tend not to learn anymore – ideological purism means no compromises, no reconsiderations, no critical thinking whatsoever. And they wonder why they keep losing things they’ve deluded themselves into thinking they will win. There’s a growing cultural divide – it’s not just that they want nothing to do with people like President Obama, but they also want nothing to do with the kinds of people who elected him twice in a landslide, nor anything to do with their society, culture or way of life. This is a bitter, protracted societal divorce that is beginning to make the 1960s social upheavals look tame by comparison.

  17. Robert in S. Kensington 29 Sep 2013, 1:02pm

    I read online today that the NJ legislature has enough votes to override the veto and probably won’t take such action until after the November elections in New Jersey. Some republicans are apparently on board to make up the numbers to get it overriden which would mean the Supreme Court decision may not be necessary.

  18. Keith in SALFORD 29 Sep 2013, 7:08pm

    Another one that’s not missed many dinners.

    Compensation eating, methinks.

    “I can’t face the fact that I’m gay, I think I’ll have another dinner/dessert/Mars bar/Herschey bar…”

    ‘Ey oop..!
    Pies’ve come.

    Keith.
    SALFORD

  19. He’s a huge man with an even bigger ego, but full of tiny ideas and thoughts, grasping for support from those who wish us to go back half a century.

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