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Russian anti-gay groups call on authorities to ban Elton John concert

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  1. UglyGeezer 24 Sep 2013, 7:24pm

    I would have hoped that someone like Elton John would make a stand on this. Publicly denounce the Russian policies and with a lot of fuss and noise, boycott the performances and explain the the world why.

    Admittedly I don’t know if this would be the ‘right’ thing to do, but it would be doing something.

    1. Oh I don’t know. From this article it is clear he is doing plenty by standing by his decision to continue with the concert. This is clearly have far more impact than any boycott. Just keep doing what you’re doing Sir Elton….

  2. John in Toronto Canada 24 Sep 2013, 7:30pm

    He needs to go over there and make enough “hooplah” to get arrested, or he’s just going for himself. (And the money.) Is Russia really going to arrest Elton John??? No. Think of the media attention. He needs to be the biggest propagandist he can be while he’s there. He will sell out concerts and anyone who claims to support their evil laws will be a big hypocrite if they go. I’m all in favour, so long as he’s not going to be a bigot’s lapdog “acceptable gay”.

    1. Taken from GSN:

      ” ‘I’m aware of the situation and I will be diplomatic,’ John says. ‘I’m not going to go into Russia and tell [Russian President Vladimir Putin] to go to hell and things like that. That’s not the way things are done.’

      …You don’t just go in there with guns blazing and say, “Well, to hell with you…. But if I can go there, maybe I can talk to some people in the administration.’ ”

      No protest…just a nice cuppa with Vlad at the Kremlin to discuss things.

      1. Why does protest have to be about guns blazing and getting arrested? Are we not being “good enough gays” if we aren’t carted off in a police van and chucked in a cell? I think what Elton is doing is subtle and far more effective. it has clearly got the Russian homophobes rattled. Is he doing it for the money? You’d have to ask him that. Maybe it’s a bit of both. He’s first and foremost a performer, not a political activist.

  3. Neon Genesis 24 Sep 2013, 8:49pm

    Watch Elton John get cold feet and back out at the last minute and then say he was for a boycott all along.

    1. That There Other David 24 Sep 2013, 8:51pm

      He’d be better off letting them ban him, then express disappointment at not being allowed to perform and make a big deal how he feels upset for his fans in Russia. It would make bigger ripples, both in Russia and here in the West.

    2. I think EJ is just about to be given a “get out of jail free” card. He must be relieved (in private).

    3. Why so negative on Elton?!!! Some people here are criticising him for not boycotting and here you are condeming him if he does. The guy can’t win! Maybe it is all about the money for him. So what. Like I said before, he’s a performer, not a political activist!

  4. That There Other David 24 Sep 2013, 8:49pm

    Very predictable from the usual child-like intellectual lightweights who make up these anti-gay Russian groups. Any successful LGBT person is a threat to their pathetic brand of dogma, so they try and remove any visibility of successful LGBT people.

    Elton will still exist and still be successful whether he plays Russia or not. That eats them up. They really despise it.

    And we should all laugh at them for it. Brainless toddlers that they are.

  5. And the true extent of the law starts to become apparent…

  6. Elton speak up dolly 24 Sep 2013, 9:26pm

    what about your rich gay pals in the London Aids Chatity sector that sent vile abuse to their hiv return to work staff
    why wont they apologise Elton ?

  7. E. Carpenter 25 Sep 2013, 12:04am

    In spite of the cynics who are claiming that this is all about Elton, I’m glad he’s doing what he’s doing – if it’s outraging the anti-gay Russians, and exposing their cognitive deficits, it’s a good thing.

    1. Exposing them to who? Other bigoted Russians who are all too unintelligent and hateful to ever change their opinions anyway?

      No one in Russia cares about this other than the LGBT people being attacked, and the religious/fascist maniacs doing the attacking.

      If Elton does perform, nothing will change. If there is protest, nothing will change. Any statement he makes on stage will be silenced. People in Russia and all around the world will never know anything about it even if Elton does do or say something.

      Being there and performing changes absolutely nothing for the people being abducted, raped, tortured and abused on a daily basis by these religious/fascist nutters.

      Boycotting the entire country and forcing companies, individuals and organizations to experience persecution first-hand is the only way to do this.

      Turn the tables on Russia and make them the pariahs for what they are doing to their own people.

  8. Can someone please tell me why they keep calling gay people perverts? I thought perverts were people who stare inappropriately at others without consent…

    1. I believe (and please correct me if I’m wrong) but in Russian language they use the same word to describe homosexuals and pedophiles.

      Since they only have one word to describe anyone who isn’t heterosexual; they’ve arrived at a point where they think homosexuals and pedophiles are the same thing since they have no way to differentiate between the two in their language

      1. Someone needs to tell Russians the difference and to give them some new words to add to their language so they can differentiate and thereby think and talk rationally, of course it would be illegal presently to educate people properly on this topic as the srare and church are colluding in the process of scapegoating gays as part of a wider agenda to increase their own power and control while removing freedom of speech and further rights from their heavily controlled citizens.

        1. Excuse typo, “srare” should read “state”, how did that happen?

  9. This will prove interesting; will they ban him just for being gay, or will they allow him to perform provided he doesn’t “promote” his homosexuality?

    Regardless of what you think of Elton John or his decisions regarding Russia; this will play an important role in figuring out just what these laws are for and how they are used.

    Elton John, whether we like it or not, is a representation of LGBT people on the international stage. How he is treated in Russia will provide useful insight into what the situation is right now I’m sure

  10. Russian anti-gay groups call on authorities to ban Elton John concert
    and Russian bears $hit in the forest.

  11. GulliverUK 25 Sep 2013, 8:39am

    Russia is going to end up being a place nobody wants to perform at, and nobody wants to travel to, and unfortunately Russian’s may well find they are less and less welcome abroad. They are the problem, not the rest of us – whilst we are enacting fairness and equality in law, they are enshrining discrimination and inciting hatred against various groups. They’re going back to the 13th century when religious groups did exactly this – a prelude to The Dark Ages.

    They’ll find themselves marginalised and isolated in the world, and it will all be their own fault. Then there will be an almighty backlash against their government and religious groups, from within – this is exactly how it happens in history, over and over again. Already they have a law where you cannot talk negatively about religion – enacted as the same time as this homophobic legislation – so, no free speech. It’s sad that the Vatican hasn’t denounced these laws, along with the CofE, and others.

  12. Let reason, education and engagement be our call to the Russian government. Only that will effect the change required with these people.

    1. Difficult seeing as presently in Russia it’s illegal to say anything positive about gay people or to provide accurate information and education about homosexuality.
      Ignorance and anti-gay propaganda holds a free reign and those who scapegoat gay people are totally encouraged.

  13. It took almost twelve years to overturn Section 28, so I don’t think anything will happen overnight in Russia.

    1. Anything, just any thing can happen overnight in Russia, which is a ‘topheavy’ super-nation held together not only by shared culture but the whims (or likes and dislikes, if you wish) of the leader of the day. Today, they have a great leader with abysmally low respect for the common man. Like every single great leader of that enormous country has been since Grand Prince Vladimir, who baptised them by fire and sword into Christianity, through Ivan IV “The Terrible” (very liberal and softass by the day’s standards, compared to the bloodthirsty ogres who reigned in Western Europe at that time) to Vlarimir the Put-in, accessory to Eltsin’s rape of the nation.

      1. I read the orthodox church and the state have practically merged which makes things even more difficult.

    2. Anything, just any thing can happen overnight in Russia, which is a ‘topheavy’ super-nation held together not only by shared culture but the whims (or likes and dislikes, if you wish) of the leader of the day. Today, they have a great leader with abysmally low respect for the common man. Like every single great leader of that enormous country was since Grand Prince Vladimir, who baptised them by fire and sword into Christianity, through Ivan IV “The Terrible” (very liberal and softass by the day’s standards, compared to the bloodthirsty ogres who reigned in Western Europe at that time) to Vlarimir the Put-in, accessory to Eltsin’s rape of the nation.

  14. Barry William Teske 25 Sep 2013, 9:09am

    Music is one of the most reliable ‘bridges’ ever built by humanity.
    Elton Johns music to me, well it is the worlds 8th wonder.
    Trust the process.
    Trust the wonder.

    1. Hope you are right, maybe a miracle will happen and EJ will get his voice back again.

  15. GingerlyColors 25 Sep 2013, 3:05pm

    Sir Elton John should go ahead with his concerts. In 1979 he broke the mould by being one of the few Western artists to tour the then Soviet Union at a time when homosexuality itself was illegal and there is no reason why he should not go this time. Unlike Pussy Riot who we never heard of until they got thrown into jail for making their stance, Sir Elton is should a high profile person that the Russians will only arrest him at their own peril. Don’t forget that there are many Russians who are either in favour of LGBT rights or do not have an issue either way and we should let them vote with their feet.

    1. In a way it would be good if the Russians did arrest him. It would instantly lead the news in many countries round the world and put this story firmly in the minds of the millions who have hitehrto never heard of these new Russian laws.

      Elton’s so stupidly wealthy he could buy and sell the Russian legal system, so he’d have no worries there. They’d never have the balls to incarcerate him and their pathetic homophobia would be subjected to the most blinding light. The ridiculous arguments of their bearded fundamentalist preachers would be shown up for the utter tosh they are. Basket case governments like Zimbabwe and Uganda would voice their support of the Russians, pinning their colours to the sinking ship of discrimination and attracting more riducule to their own state sponsored hatred.

      1. David Myers 26 Sep 2013, 10:36am

        Actually, “The law specifies punishment for foreign citizens, to include fines of up to 100,000 rubles ($3,000), time in prison for up to 15 days, deportation and denial of reentry into Russia.”

  16. So it looks like there are no winners in this story.

    Elton seemingly decided that money was more important than taking a moral stance and refusing to go, and now it looks like that opportunity to take the moral high-ground has been snatched from him by religious fanatics inside Russia, making him look foolish.

    He’s lost a lot of respect in the UK and USA over this, specifically with LGBT people. And now he just looks like he’s being denied a chance to make any point at all, however weak and watered down it would have been by him attending.

  17. “It also makes a mockery of our recently enacted law against the public propaganda of gay ideas,” he said.

    Yes, because pop-rock concerts with music and singing are such totally gay ideas.

  18. dee gardner 29 Sep 2013, 4:45pm

    I was hoping elton john should have stood up a long time ago but elton has to go on principle and support the lgbt community s in Russia moscow putin needs to resign immediately is is not on the geneva convention of human rights for the anti gay laws to go a head are plain crazy I find it abhorent

  19. Artists do not play for governments. They play for audiences. And you should not boycott your audience for any political reasons.

    Elton played in the Soviet Union in the 70s. He won’t step back now.

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