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Vladimir Putin: ‘Europeans are dying out so why would we want gay marriage?’

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  1. Perhaps he should get on with growing that little moustache…

    1. “Without the values at the core of Christianity and other world religions, without moral norms that have been shaped over millennia, people will inevitably lose their human dignity”.
      Vladimir Putin, 2013

      “The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation
      has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality and the family as the basis of national life….”
      Adolf Hitler, 1933

      1. The parallels are terrifying.

      2. Yes it is rather alarming.

        Interestingly many right wing people, particularly Mail readers claim that Hitler was an atheist and that Nazism was linked to aggressive secularism. It must be guilt by association for them because they have a somewhat contradictory relationship with the legacy of the Führer, on the one hand they deny that their racist right wing beliefs are similar to his and they say he was a “leftist”, but on the other hand not everything he did was bad and Stalin was much worse.

        Looking at the comments on Putin they have the same inconsistent views it seems.

      3. Christopher Coleman 20 Sep 2013, 4:33pm

        Leaders always resort to religion to justify their positions. Consider Bush and Blair. Listen to any elected Republican in the USA. Interestingly, these people need God in order to have someone to blame. Even insurance companies do it with their “acts of God”. Why don’t believers ever credit God with acts of goodness or kindness?

        1. They do when something good happens to them, they see themselves as blessed. If something goes wrong, they see it as God’s challenge, or punishment for their sins. That’s faith.

      4. The former head of the KGB, whose task it was to suppress religion in the USSR – and no-one challenges him when he talks of Christian morals and principles?
        What spineless leaders we (and other nations) have!

  2. Guys only marry girls because the law forces them to ????? Else they would all be gay….

    I can’t believe this guy has his finger on Russia’s nuclear trigger!

    1. But Jese, doesn’t that says a HUGE amount about Putin’s OWN sexual attractions? How can he possibly state that with such conviction …. unless he fears he TOO would be attracted to men without the taboos and stigma of being gay? “Show me a homophobe; I’ll show you a closet case …”. What this homophobe is doing is projecting his own inner-fears and self-loathing onto the very people who most represent that which he hates most in himself – his gay feelings.

      1. Ah, but he is above normal, weak mortals. At least in his own eyes (viz. all those topless macho photos).

  3. Does this man SERIOUSLY believe that the Russian race is actually “dying out”, that the millions of heterosexuals in Russia are reproducing themselves as we speak?

    It should gravely concern us all that this character is in charge of a nation!

    1. Peter Duncan 20 Sep 2013, 2:42pm

      It does concern us

      1. next Putin law should now be : decriminalise rape, because is good for reproduction.

        1. Or call back all the mail order brides and prostitutes and get screwing!

    2. Yes White GENOCIDE will be the MAJOR issue of the coming decades.

  4. Because stopping gay people from getting married is going to make them all desperate to find a partner of the opposite sex and reproduce? Yeah, that’s right, Vlad

  5. This is the same nonsensical ‘argument’ I hear from ‘nationalists’ in this country. When are these homophobes/biphobes going to understand the simple point that people don’t actively and willingly ‘choose’ their sexuality? The numbers of gay/bisexual people in society has always been around the 5-7% mark and always will be. Consequently, the numbers of straights will always be in a massive 90% plus majority. There is NO danger of Europeans dying-out due to this reason!

    1. Is this an undisputable fact they don’t choose they sexuality? You probably have evidence that they don’t. Well, I have evidence they do. The discussion is not over for us to speak with such a confidence.

      1. The latest available evidence seems to strongly suggest people
        don’t willingly and actively choose their sexuality. Look-up the science of epi-marks/epi-genetics and homosexuality on google.

        1. “Seems” and “suggest” points at a small degree of doubt. I believe one needs no less than ultimate proof that would shut all “homophobes'” mouths before embarking on such a serious reform (experiment) the world is undergoing right now. But who wants to wait, right?

          I agree homosexuality has existed for centuries, yet now it is only the second time in history (I don’t mean Sodom) when it became so mainstream and supported by the state to such an extent and on such a high level that MP’s are open about their orientations. Queen Elizabeth wouldn’t have imagined anything like that in the 16 century.

          Thanks though, I will follow your recommendation about epigenetics.

          1. Its easy to figure out if your sexuality is a choice or not, do you choose what turns you on? IE Choose what gets your dick hard?
            You don’t, its that SIMPLE. You don’t need evidence or research to tell you that.
            You can’t tell your dick to get hard at the sight of something you find sexually arousing.

      2. I struggled against my own gay nature for over 30 years. I refused to accept that I was not straight.
        To suggest people choose a “lifestyle” that will preclude children, cause hostility and invite physical and verbal abuse and violence is, frankly, stupid.
        It amazes me that anyone could be so unintelligent as to suggest that being gay is a “choice”. Psychologists now agree that no-one is 100% hetero or 100% gay. We all lie somewhere on a spectrum of sexual orientation.

        1. I agree. Whenever I get into discussion with a homophobe or biphobe (not surprisingly, bisexuality REALLY confuses these people!) the conversation normally degenerates rapidly into an argument as to whether gays are ‘choosing’ to be ‘degenerate’ or not. I always say why (if you think logically about it) would anyone voluntarily choose to be the object of derision and scorn at best and downright hatred and significant hostility at worst and all this at a time when some in society still expect (even nowdays) for all its members to be straight? It just doesn’t make for a rational decision.

          Yes, sexuality does exist on a continuem. There are many straights who can look at another member of their own gender and think yes that person IS a rather handsome or pretty member of my gender.

    2. And who are you to say that? You guys played golf together?

  6. Oh great, add racism and xenophobia to the general mix of bigotry. Putin really is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

    1. Yes, all forms of bigotry are often linked and there is quite a strong correlation between racism, misogyny and homophobia. It doesn’t surprise me that Putin is all three. He fits the old school stereotype of machismo that I despise.

      What that said you’d hope that homophobic black people and women would be rare, the same with racist gay people. Unfortunately none of these are rare and it seems to me that many people don’t care about bigotry or injustice until it affects them or people they feel they have more in common with.

  7. So what if our nations’ populations grow due to the addition of immigrants? We in Western Europe are not so ethnocentric as to equate the existence of the nation with the continuity of genetic material through the generations.

  8. Russia’s population is collapsing thanks to mass emigration, declining birthrate and chronic alcoholism.

    I can’t wait till China decides to expand into Russia.

    1. Think that might cause a thermonuclear war, which would make Chernobyl look like a volcanic ash cloud…….But I take your point!

  9. Martin Leyland 20 Sep 2013, 1:43pm

    This is what Putin and his cronies say every time they are challenged. Yet he never addresses the news we hear about young gays being pursued, tortured or beaten. Someone needs to put him on the spot and get him to state CLEARLY whether or not he supports this anti-gay violence and why Russian police do not seem to be taking it seriously. If he is so convinced that gays face *no* discrimination in Russia, then let him convince the world at large….

    1. Martin Leyland 20 Sep 2013, 2:04pm

      Actually his hysterical rant about Europeans “dying out” is on the same level as that right wing American loony, saying all the gays should be “put on an island to stop them reproducing”. Yeah, ‘cos you know, all those gay men getting married and having gay babies…er…. Her grasp of Human Biology seems to be tjhe same as Putin’s grasp of Demographics! Good job he’s President…NOT.

    2. Discipline policemen beating up citizens, as happen in this “dissolute” nation! That will show his sincerity!

  10. “Why would we want gay marriage?”… says recently divorced Putin.

  11. Has anyone tested him for syphilis?

  12. alexoloughlin 20 Sep 2013, 1:47pm

    Odd that he’s citing the core of Christian values when he doesn’t even attend church. A bit rich coming from a bigoted adulterer who’s now getting divorced.

    So freedom of expression and the right to assemble in Pride marches are banned and that’s not discrimination? What a delusional loon.

  13. As a nationalist, I would have no objection to their being more gay people in society. One of Britain’s problems is that we are overpopulated with the result that the government wants to build more and more dual carriageways and motorways and thereby shattering the tranquility of the countryside and destroying our formerly green and pleasant land.

    Our quality of life in Britain (particularly England) is getting worse and worse due to overpopulation so we could do with more gays and less of a birthrate. The Optimum Population Trust (now renamed Population Matters) reckons Britain’s ideal population should be around 30 million. If it were, we could stop incessant road-building, have more tranquil countryside and have a far higher quality of life.

  14. This moron is the president of Russia, even Ronnie Raygun wasn’t this stupid.

    1. And who are you to say that? You guys played golf together?

    2. You know that? You guys played golf together?

  15. If Putin wants his population to start growing, then perhaps he should derail his economy so badly as to replace Africa as the synonym for poverty.
    As unusual as it seems, poorer societies tend to be the ones that produce more children, be it Africa today, or Europe a few centuries ago.
    The only problem is, Putin has pegged his political survival on returning Russia to being the Cold War powerhouse that was only in that position by virtue (or lack thereof) of having a command economy in which people bought what they were told to when they were told to, and by having about a dozen slave states and colonies forced to do business with them.

    1. The reason places like Africa produce more children is, in part, due to instructions from the catholic church not to use condoms. And why is their doctrine FULL of ‘sins’ connected with reproduction? Because religions (just like Putin) need ‘cannon fodder’. The more little followers you have, the more money you can demand from them and the more troops you have to fight your cause. The bible (especially the Old Testament) was wrtitten by men with exactly the same agenda.

      1. Bingo! Never for a second believe that the Church’s stance on birth control is anything to do with Religion.

        They want people within the church to pair off ONLY with other people within the church and breed lots and lots of kids to take to the church for indoctrination

        They target kids like McDonalds and the Pope is Ronald McDonald

  16. Iain Logan 20 Sep 2013, 1:55pm

    He’s just trying to justify his oppression of LGBTI people. Obviously a massive hater trying to be all political in his expression of his feelings.

  17. Why should the majority be unquestioned? Numbers don’t make you correct

    1. Frank Boulton 21 Sep 2013, 7:21pm

      I agree. A majority voted for the Holocaust. And I don’t think that many dare disagree with Putin.

  18. Putin does not understand that a happy people are a prosperous and procreative people. That throughout history homosexuality has always existed. That even during the eras that fully accepted homosexuality that the population of that accepting people continued to grow. Mr. Putin, try bringing happiness and prosperity to your people and they will thrive.

  19. Life expectancy at birth
    Germany 81 Male 78 Female 82
    France 82 M78 F85
    Russia 69 M63 F75

    All that manly heterosex must be killing off Russian men a decade sooner than those gay European men! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

    1. The most startling thing about that table? All of the bottom 32 countries on that ranking of life expectancy are African countries. It’s hardly surprising that homophobia, abuse of women and religious intolerance are so prevalent there, if you look at the list of countries by literacy levels African countries come out at the bottom as well.

      Which is why I maintain that turning our backs on them won’t solve the problem of homophobia there and it would be slapping LGBT Africans in the face.

  20. Quote: “The Europeans are dying out… and gay marriages don’t produce children.”
    And THERE, my friends, you have the WHOLE basis for religious homophobia. The bible was written by men with exactly the same agenda as Putin. Racial and cultural supremacy.

    1. Christopher Coleman 20 Sep 2013, 4:40pm

      The Biblical authors were also very certain of being the “chosen” people of God. Hitler had his “master race” conviction. What will Putin come up with to distract everyone from his country’s real problems, whatever they might be?

  21. That There Other David 20 Sep 2013, 2:17pm

    Sort your pit of a country out Vladimir and maybe your people might actually want to bring children into it.

    Or you could carry on sticking your fingers in your ears, pretend everything’s peachy and divert public attention from your many failures by demonising LGBTs. Either way, it’s Russians that will die out rather than Europeans.

    What a fabulous job you’re doing, cretin.

  22. Because we’re gay regardless of if we get married or not, it’s seriously depressing that somebody this moronic is in charge of a superpower.

  23. “Without the values at the core of Christianity and other world religions, without moral norms that have been shaped over millennia, people will inevitably lose their human dignity”.
    Vladimir Putin, 2013

    “The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation
    has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality and the family as the basis of national life….”
    Adolf Hitler, 1933

    1. That last sentence of Hitler’s was repeated at various Tory party conferences over the years!

  24. Is the Rusky A hole for real – Secure loving Same Sex Couples can parent children – and clean up the unwanted kid mess caused by irresponsible heteros.

    When is this world going to evolve towards a Superstition free planet – no religious wars, no justified bigotry, and no unwanted births.

  25. David Jordan 20 Sep 2013, 3:00pm

    If the Russian’s really had a population crisis you’d think they’d look after their children better but instead they have thousands of street children, many of whom are drug dependent, tens of thousands of children in state run orphanages (most of them foundlings rather then orphans), massive levels of child poverty, high levels of child abuse.
    Considering the length of Putin’s reign, he’s had more then enough time to start to put things right but he hasn’t.
    Putin couldn’t give a damn about Russian children.

  26. Benjamin Bee 20 Sep 2013, 3:07pm

    I see only one reason for believing that homosexuality is something you choose. It is the taste for it. You look at yourself and recognize that with the freedom to choose, you would choose the best … The Thing.

  27. john lyttle 20 Sep 2013, 3:11pm

    .Nutjob Heads of State do seem to be the thing on the far far right.

  28. Yes , utters b@llocks but still a hero of humanity for averting Obomber’s intent to unleash WWIII on the Middle East and for providing asylum to the NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, who singlehandedly has blown open the US/New World Order’s global big brother control grid!

    1. He could crack the cure for cancer, doesn’t mean his hands are clean of blood

  29. Um, what does banning gay marriage have to do with children. What? This piece of sh*t thinks that, if gays can’t get married they’ll suddenly turn all hetero and marry and have children?
    What a moron.

    1. And who are you?

      1. apparently Mike Uk and the others are astute observers..and who are you?

  30. Gay people can and do have children. Although according to this story, it’d hardly be something you publicise in Russia:

    “Vassily (not his real name) feels keenly the danger public opinion poses to him. A gay man in his 40s, he faked a marriage and moved to an isolated village six years ago, in order to adopt and bring up a son.

    Today, he lives with his male partner and their child, now 10 and the academic high-flyer of his local school. Vassily says the boy, along with everyone in his community, is unaware of the real nature of their domestic set-up. He says he does not want to tell him yet in case, in his innocence, he talks.

    “We are used to keeping secrets,” Vassily says in hushed tones, even though he is speaking in the privacy of his own kitchen.

    “What happens between me and my partner is our private matter….But if they were to find out now, the child would be taken away from us immediately, without a thought.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21578520

  31. Signs a law stopping LGBT people from adopting children.
    Complains that LGBT people don’t raise children.

    1. Christopher Coleman 20 Sep 2013, 4:44pm

      The next stage will probably be close to the Iranian one of a few years ago: there are no gay people in our country. When you are in charge you can say that something does not exist and, therefore, it does not exist.

      1. He will be used to that, having declared dissidents “non-people” and air-brushing them out of Soviet history, as head of the KGB.
        Solzhenitzin (spelling?), etc.

  32. So if LGBT can’t marry they will all shrug their shoulders have a hetrosexual marriage and reproduce?

  33. “Without the values at the core of “Christianity and other world religions, without moral norms that have been shaped over millennia, people will inevitably lose their human dignity,” he argued.”

    Speak for yourself, dickheadtator

    1. You sound offended like most of your partners on here.

  34. Bollocks

  35. Helge Vladimir Tiller 20 Sep 2013, 4:08pm

    I wish my English was perfect, so I could say what I really mean about Putin’s nonsense. But unfortunately- it’s not ! I’m almost exploding from anger and temperament now. But my dear gay, lesbian and transgender sisters and brothers in The UK and all around the World understand me. Putin, YOU are a disgrace to Humanity. You have not learnt your lesson at all–The lesson of being human and understanding to people. The supreme person in Russia ! You have recently degraded yourself to a zero when it comes to the most important facts in Life: We are all Equal. No matter where we come from ; Asia- Europe- Australia- Africa-America. And we all need to practise our ability to love—and help others to do the same ! Putin – you are a personification against progress and the natural flow of Life Itself.

    1. I agree and don’t worry about your English, many people from the UK have much worse English, it’s fine.

      Det er bra!

      1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 20 Sep 2013, 4:38pm

        THANKS !! It is 53 years since I learned English at school.

    2. For all those here cursing at Putin and posting childish sobs of self-defense.

      All that a common Russian citizen truly suffers from is paperwork, bad roads and their own negligence. Violence against gays is a rare thing in Russia but you just want to make it look like it is a wide-spread plague so you have something to fight against. This strawman is what keeps you going. When you win your war (the sooner the better) you will start sinking into bitterness against each other for childish reasons.

      Look, I had to calm my temper heated up by comparing seemingly unjust life in Russia with seemingly just life in America before I could realize that, hey, Putin is actually going out of his way to drag the country out of the ruins of Yeltsin’s collapsed economy. I had to stop sneering at his shirtless Indy Jones adventures before I realized that all this was meant to help many a Russian vodka-soaked man see a different image of what a man can be. The glass is half-full, but you people are offended at us not approving of your life-style. Don’t be.

    3. Boy, I can’t post anything here

  36. Wow, he’s openly sounding more and more like Hitler with each passing day, and plenty of ignorant Russians don’t even see it!

    The man has completely lost the f’ing plot, he’s a maniac, delusional, completely detached from reality.

    This is concerning. Now he’s actively going after “immigrants” in his statements. The creation of “concentration camps” is already making its way into government policy.

    We will likely be at war with Russia before the end of the decade.

    1. I hope not as our defences are in a parlous state due to government cuts but your main point is correct. The man is a nutter and is merely demonstrating (once again) how backward and/or severely authoritarian the Russian government is but then that has often been the case throughout history. Our country should carefully distance ourselves from Russia. My old nan always used to hiss at me whenever I brought-up the subject of WW2 as she blamed the Soviet Union just as much as Hitler for it breaking-out (the secret Ribbentrop-Molotov pact)

      1. Well how about the Munich agreement of 1939 that France and UK made with hitler? Nobody wants to remember that?

    2. Frank Boulton 21 Sep 2013, 8:18pm

      Putin’s xenophobia is hardly new. Before he targeted LGBTI people, he blamed the Georgians for the state that he brought Russia to.

  37. Russian population in 2000: 146.6 million
    Russian population in 2012: 143.2 million

    Western European population in 2000: 389.2 million
    Western European population in 2011: 412.8 million

    Methinks Mr Putin doth protest too much!

    1. I find it fascinating that he doesn’t even consider that population numbers in Russia are falling because of other obvious factors…

      1. Baby boom post war that is now over, therefore providing a warped spike in birth rates.
      2. Lack of adequate healthcare across Russia.
      3. Lack of political and personal freedom across Russia for decades, meaning that millions have fled the country.
      4. Lack of opportunity in Russia (unless you have an Oligarch in your family) encouraging millions to leave for the “evil West”.
      5. Out of control alcoholism.
      6. Out of control domestic violence against women.
      7. Lack of feminist ideology, meaning women are less inclined to want to have a family in such appalling conditions.

      The fact that this lunatic cites homosexuality (while it never affected free nations) as a cause, just highlights his incapability as a “leader” and his unstable mental condition.

  38. Meri Equality Justus 20 Sep 2013, 4:54pm

    well for lesbians they can always both be artificially be inseminated, (if they wanted to) then that is 2 mothers having children in one family so yes they can reproduce, and as far as 2 men they can always use a surrogate mother, to have kids, or in both cases they can adopt 1,2,3,4…… of the thousands of children that were unwanted by their hetrosexual parents, and give them loving homes instead of being raised in foster homes, or orphanages all around the world. so Same sex partners are just as valuable as hetropartners.

    1. Not to mention we tend to be very innovative and intelligent in a diverse range of ways ! People seem to think children are the only thing people have to offer throughout their lives…

      also there’s good reason to believe homosexuality has always existed and continues to exist as it sustains the species and evesn out the distribution of each tribe’s chronically scarce resources to it’s members and young as well as provide a natural cap on over population and child bearing beyond a societies capacity to provide for all, and as you stated; look after the abandoned or neglected offspring of the more careless breeders

  39. Some of the biggest threats to humanity: intolerance and overpopulation. He now seems to promote both of them…. This unworldly man make me sick more and more.

  40. James Savik 20 Sep 2013, 5:34pm

    the idiot has no idea.

    the GAY people that want to get GAY married aren’t going to say OH WELL, I guess I’ll marry a hetero partner.

  41. Kay Arnold 21 Sep 2013, 1:34am

    It is now plainly evident Mr. Putin is not only a homophobe but is also seriously mentally deficient.

  42. For all those here cursing at Putin and posting childish self-defensive insults.

    All that a common Russian truly suffers from is bad roads, red tape and their own negligence. Violence against gays is a rare thing in Russia but the media just wants to make it look like it is a wide-spread plague so you have something to fight against. This straw man is what keeps you going. When you win your war (the sooner the better) you will start sinking into a bitterness and hate against each other. Only then will many of you want to change. Did someone say ‘bigotry’? God forbid!

    I had to calm my temper heated up by comparing seemingly unjust life in Russia with seemingly just life in America before I could realize that, hey, Putin is actually going out of his way to drag the country out of the ruins of Yeltsin’s collapsed economy. I had to stop sneering at his shirtless Indy Jones adventures before I realized that all this was meant to help many a Russian vodka-soaked man see a different image of what a man can be. There are more examples. The glass is half-full.

    You people are offended at Putin not approving of your life-style. Don’t be. If you know you are right then no politician can shake your inner confidence. Reactions like ‘moron’, ‘idiot’, etc. show it HAS been shaken, as well as they show that Putin’s opinion matters to you. Not only his but everyone’s, so you feel better about yourselves. But you will not. The good news though is there is a chance for everyone.

    Don’t attack me if you don’t want to lose because I will get you in the corner. Don’t fire hateful comments at me if you don’t want to show your weakness. I will only accept a peaceful, rational debate.

  43. For all those here cursing Putin and posting childish insults of self-defense.

    All that a common Russian truly suffers from is bad roads, red tape and their own negligence. Violence against gays is a rare thing in Russia but the media just wants to make it look like it is a wide-spread plague so you have something to fight against. This straw man is what keeps you going. When you win your war (the sooner the better) you will start sinking into a bitterness and hate against each other. Only then will many of you want to change. Did someone say ‘bigotry’? God forbid!

    I had to calm my temper heated up by comparing seemingly unjust life in Russia with seemingly just life in America before I could realize that, hey, Putin is actually going out of his way to drag the country out of the ruins of Yeltsin’s collapsed economy. I had to stop sneering at his shirtless Indy Jones adventures before I realized that all this was meant to help many a Russian vodka-soaked man see a different image of what a man can be. There are more examples. The glass is half-full.

    You people are offended at Putin not approving of your life-style. Don’t be. If you know you are right then no politician can shake your inner confidence. Reactions like ‘moron’, ‘idiot’, etc. show it HAS been shaken, as well as they show that Putin’s opinion matters to you. Not only his but everyone’s, so you could feel better about yourselves. But you will not. The good news though is there is a chance for everyone.

    Don’t attack me if you don’t want to lose because I will get you in the corner. Don’t fire hateful comments at me if you don’t want to show your weakness. I will only accept a peaceful, rational debate.

    1. Lion in Winter 21 Sep 2013, 1:06pm

      Rome was overthrown by the Barbarians.

    2. Yes, the more than 50 neo-Nazi groups planning attacks on Russian LGBT people on their open social network is just “imaginary”. The law dictating what the press can say on these issues is “fictional”. The bill currently making its way through the Duma criminalizing parents and threatening the removal of children from their families “just isn’t happening”.

      Sorry, but you are delusional. We can see all of this happening, and no amount of denial by Putin apologists will change the facts.

      1. This is a serious piece of information you gave.
        1. Where did you get it (weblink, specific people)?
        2. What in your view makes those sources credible? And are they more credible than, say, S.Jimenez’s “The Book of Matt”?
        3. What makes you think this is apologetic, not a mere call to weigh facts?
        3. Please, avoid labels if you want to do it rationally. Thank you.

        1. VK is the “Russian Facebook”. You can find the neo-Nazi groups on there yourself, they don’t hide from pubic view. This is where the stories and videos of LGBT people abducted and tortured are being shared.

          The law states that there can be no “promotion” of homosexuality, this means that no Russian newspaper or broadcaster can present any news on LGBT issues without putting a negative spin on the story. This is a fact, in law, it doesn’t need a link. Read the law and see how it is being applied.

          There is another law making its way through the Duma criminalizing same sex parenting. It is believed that if this passes the children of same-sex couples will be removed and placed into state institutions. Again, this is the law being proposed, not a fiction, not an exaggeration – ACTUAL FACT.

          This new law is the reason why same-sex couples with children are now seeking to leave Russia, before the law passes and their kids are stolen from them.

          I’m not going to do your job for you. Read.

    3. The chance of a rational debate went out of the window with your (highly revealing) use of the term “life-style”. Come back when you develop a grasp of what you’re trying to talk about.

      1. Rehan
        But the chance got right back with you expressing your disagreement with my (highly trivial) use of “life-style”. Good start! Why not discuss it?

        1. Are you for real? Do you seriously not understand the implications of referring to sexuality as a “life-style”?

          1. Rehan
            We can share opinions if you like. We’re looking at the same fact: people behaving sexually in a way different from the majority. We interpret this fact differently: you call it sexuality, I call it life-style. We both have sources to back our views. Yet you imply it’s a settled issue. Do you KNOW it is? And what are your sources?

            If you wish to do some digging and compare evidence on both sides, I will greatly appreciate it. Take your time.

          2. I’m pretty sure you don’t refer to heterosexuality as a “lifestyle” thoug, do you?

            But really, I can’t waste my time on such fatuity. I suggest you read a little more, and more widely. Take your time.

      2. Rehan
        I hope you understand that I meant no sarcasm by saying that I will appreciate it. I will truly appreciate it. Maybe it wouldn’t be a waste of time at all.

        I will answer your last question gladly after you answer my next to the last one.

        Anyways, thanks for the feedback.

      3. To clarify: in my post I put “lifestyle” in quotes, as it was used ironically. I hate the term, it is one of the “non-words” which seem to spring forth from media and PR types. It does not deserve to be in the OED, but probably is……..
        People have lives, not lifestyles.

  44. …well isn’t he intelligent….so what if the whole human race dies out due to homosexuality! Lets face it, quite literally maybe it’s on the cards. OUR CARDS! We are all destined for extinction in one way or another, sometime, whatever.

  45. Interesting that he mentions christianity in his little speech and traditional values…..considering he recently got divorced. I thought that marriage vows state that marriage is till death do us part?

    Someone else picking and choosing his beliefs to suit himself!

  46. Trolled fags

  47. Surely we have some spare polonium they could send him for christmas?

    1. sorry, meant we could

  48. Good for Putin. He is not forbidding homosexuality but he does not want it flaunted or being promoted to those under 18. Wish we had a government with backbone to do the same.

    1. I wish that, too. But I’m not sure how long this law will last. The pressure on Russia has been growing on all sides: politics, media, arts. With the movie industry, music and literature in their pocket they will get what they want.

    2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality

      “There is no consensus among scientists about why a person develops a particular sexual orientation; however, biologically-based theories for the cause of sexual orientation are favored by experts, which point to genetic factors, the early uterine environment, or both combinations. Moreover, there is no substantive evidence which suggests parenting or early childhood experiences play a role when it comes to sexual orientation;”

      Like Putin, you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

      1. I’m not talking about anything yet.

        What do you think experts mean by sexual orientation or sexuality? And you personally.

  49. ..blimey this President Putin is quite a wanker, isn’t he..I mean lets be honest what he really wants to tell everyone is that the human population is dying out due to homosexuality. So if homosexuals were exterminated all heterosexuals would be left to procreate which will in the end make the planet well populated….sounds like some kind of new Hitler to me…

  50. I know one shouldn’t really say this but he should be assassinated! quietly and quickly…..definitely.

  51. Blalalalalalalalal idiot Putin ,”Let us make our own choice, as we see it for our country”very clever answer but selfish. Yep your choice right?so what about then otherssssss?do you relay care?

    just go away ….nobody likes you ….

    go away from

  52. Putin the IDIOT

  53. Same-sex marriage will lead to the end of the human race. What bull. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPUtlEUs58I

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