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US: Louisiana won’t recognise same-sex marriage on state tax returns

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  1. Robert in S. Kensington 16 Sep 2013, 7:55pm

    What a screwed up system they have in the states. Thank goodness we don’t have it in the UK.

    1. On the plus side, our wacky system is the reason we’ve had decriminalized marijuana and legal gay sex at 16 since 1976 in my state, and now have full equality under the law with marriage and adoption rights, discrimination protections, and so on. If we had to wait for a national consensus on stuff like that in a country of 300 million people scattered across six time zones, we’d still be waiting. So, hurray for federalism!

    2. We do really.

      The best comparison of Louisiana being a state of the USA is the UK being a state of the EU.

      Quite often member states refuse to do things the EU tells them to, or interprets them differently.

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 17 Sep 2013, 12:00pm

        The EU isn’t a country or sovereign state, big difference. So no, we’do not have anything comparable to the American system of federalism.

  2. States do not have the authority to nullify federal constitutional law. And the U.S. constitution has a full faith and credit clause for legal recognitions like marriage – a marriage granted by one state is valid in all states.

  3. Sounds like they are begging for a legal challenge. Citizens should withhold their tax if they are treated unequally.

  4. This is what happens when your national government is too cowardice to make a decision for human rights. They will only make laws as a stop-gap when pressured, but push everything else onto the individual states. This has created an incomprehensible web of laws such as medical care, gay rights, insurance, alcohol, driving, agriculture, etc. Often between towns, it can be vastly different; one town will have a volunteer ambulance service (free), while a neighboring town uses a private service that will cost you $1500 (£950). It truly is like going from one country to the next, but you just don’t need a passport, and there are no signs when you enter a state informing you what you’re getting into.

    For a taste of the real America, watch Michael Moore’s “Bowling for Columbine” and “Sicko”. You won’t believe it. Nothing has changed since the movies were made.

  5. Alistair Carmichael, the whip has come out badly on this. Nobody is arguing against an “individuals right to free expression and freedom of religion”.

    However, it is well established that such rights don’t trump other peoples human rights. If any ideology should understand this it should be the Liberal Democrats. I thought adherence to human rights was a supposed to be a cornerstone policy for them ?

    The point he is missing is that for those who hold religious beliefs, there is no automatic right for those beliefs not to be subjected to scrutiny, particularly when they are being used to harm groups of humans their fundamental human rights.

    You have to ask whether the conference has exposed that the Liberal democrats are in crisis. They are all over the place. Where is the leadership ?

    In my view Carmichael, in trying to be the great appeaser, has made a fool of himself and placed a big question mark over whether in fact he hold true to LD ideology.

  6. I smell a law suit

  7. Welcome to Ignorant Thicket Louisiana where wrong headed thinking is a way of life. The folks in Louisiana are some of our most backward thinking, narrow-minded, short-sighted people in America. They would still have slavery if they could get away with it.

  8. Art Pearson 17 Sep 2013, 5:10pm

    Do I feel a Supreme Court challenge coming up?

  9. Richard the Big Bunny 17 Sep 2013, 8:00pm

    Tough teepees, Louisiana … ‘cos ya gotta! :-) They can throw all of their toys out of the pram if they like but it won’t make any difference — they still have to follow federal law. Suck it, Louisiana!

  10. keith francis farrell 18 Sep 2013, 12:54pm

    Thank goodness I don’t live in that mad country, you claim freedom and equality but practise discrimination.
    Just how do they expect anybody to sign a legal declaration, that is not the truth as if it is the truth. If it was me I would refuse to do a tax return unless I was able to tell the truth. The state is forcing people to lie on their tax return. That is really intelligent. and then they want to cheat them on the amount of tax they pay, I think someone needs to go back to law school, I’m not a lawyer but I do know it is an offence to sign a false declaration

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