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Video: Anti-gay preacher arrested in Basildon after ‘homophobic remarks’

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  1. Why is it that some people are protected by the law to spread hatred about GLBT, but not women and ethnic minority groups? Don’t get me wrong, I equally despise all forms of bigotry, it just seems ludicrous that these folk are allowed to spread anti-gay speech under ‘religious grounds’. What if he had been spouting ‘gender’ type slurs? Or something about slavery or ‘the curse of Ham’?
    All the while people in the UK are convicted of ‘anti-religious’ speech. So why the double standards?

  2. He should have been sectioned rather than arrested.

    He believes in ‘god’.

    He is mentally ill.

    1. clearly or just plain ignorant

  3. Now replace him with a Muslim fanatic, and we’ll see 20 drunk EDL lunatics, outrage by the Daily Fail, Councillors foaming at the mouth to end the hate speech, thousands of complaints to the police, outrage expressed by church leaders…

    The hypocrisy and double standards of people in this country is disgusting. We would not accept a Muslim preaching like this on the street, so why do we allow a Christian fanatic to get away with it?

    If I went into my town center and started screaming about Unicorns coming to save us all from an army of demonic hedgehogs, I would probably not be tolerated, and possibly end up under psychiatric care eventually. Why do we allow some brands of insanity and not others?

    Freedom of religion is good, but I demand the freedom not to be verbally attacked in the street by a religious maniac with a superiority complex. I don’t care what religion they’re preaching, they are attacking other members of society and they do not deserve the right to express hatred.

    1. You have to remember that these people are so frightened of Santa Clause and his big list of nice and naughty things they have done that in their minds they’re just trying to save us !

  4. I get fed up with these street preachers many with loud speakers!! Glad to see action was taken, but if he had gone to the council to apply for a permit, then i wonder how strict the process is with regard as to the content of his preaching? Does it have to detail the intent? About time the law stepped in to stop this altogether, along with those persistant charity workers. You just feel you can’t shop without being harassed anymore. Little wonder the high street is in trouble with these groups on the loose!

  5. I like the double standards here, like BlokeToys points out, as well as the fact that if he was spouting misogynistic crap, or maybe some rhetoric about ‘Hams curse’, no one would have let it go.
    Don’t get me wrong, I despise all forms of bigotry, but it still seems acceptable to spread false and hateful information about gays, whereas it’s taboo and illegal for other types of bigotry.
    I don’t care what bullcrap this guy personally believes, until it affects the rest of us.
    (reposted. Last msg hasn’t appeared)

  6. Paul Halsall 13 Sep 2013, 12:31pm

    Free speech is important, even when it is wrong.

    1. But why is some forms of ‘free speech’ more acceptable than others?
      If he was banging on about ‘the curse of Ham’, I doubt he’d have been let off like he was.
      Don’t misunderstand me, I despise all forms of bigotry, but it still seems some forms are taboo, and legal than others.
      Having said that, I’m an advocate for free speech until it can be said to be inciting violence.

      1. * more taboo and legal

    2. Free speech refers to the right to speak to others about your own opinions – NOT to blatantly bully the public into a similar state of ignorance regarding how they ‘MUST’ lead their lives or be threatened with a non existent deity who will judge you based on other peoples superstitions.

  7. The clip was Edinburgh, a place full of redundant churches. Why doesn’t he set up pitch in one of them.

    There is also a long established speaker corner at The Mound on a Sunday afternoon, but folk would chase him.

  8. Robert in S. Kensington 13 Sep 2013, 12:36pm

    Ok, so he didn’t have a permit and arrest was the appropriate action. Of course, the sky pixie nutters will construe it as an abuse of religious freedom while ignoring the fact that many of us wish to be free from religion and not subjected to taunts and diarrhoea of the mouth when going about our lives in the streets, something that his Jesus Christ condemned in Mathew 6:5: “And whenever you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites who love to stand in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they will be seen by people.”

  9. When are ‘the religious’ going to realise that their ‘belief’ is NOT a licence to peddle hatred? HAVE whatever ‘belief’ you want. Even PREACH whataver silly, childish nonsense you want about talking snakes and women made from men’s ribs. But if you DARE use a loudhailer to bully the world into believing that some people are less valid than others … you’re nicked. Simple as that!

  10. Jock S. Trap 13 Sep 2013, 12:42pm

    Oh dear, never mind, what a pity!!

    Sad little man. Another that spends their time questioning life rather than getting on and living it.

  11. Perhaps as the law is biased to religion anyway inasmuch as religious buildings are NOT taxed…perhaps there is an argument that their hateful views stay in their churchs & mosques & not inflicted on us in public spaces.

  12. There is No such thing as God – when we Die we die End of! – This vile man is using ‘religion’ to justify his hatred of people different to him – And why oh Why do these unevolved bullies insist on badgering everyone else into hearing how they think we should lead our lives – through superstition and ignorance and a faith based dictatorship for the stupid!

    here ‘endeth’ my humanist sermon

  13. He has the right to believe whatever he wants. Apparently, he was arrested for not having a permit and not for his homophobic comments.

  14. Tom (Winnipeg) 13 Sep 2013, 9:25pm

    So, if we’ve told one lie, I suppose we’re going to burn in hell for eternity. There really is something wrong with the school curriculum – it’s lacking something. Or maybe these idiots have never gone to school.

  15. Liam Sauer-Wooden 13 Sep 2013, 10:16pm

    Why not steel, lie, etc. apart from a god? Yes, because these and other acts increase the suffering of others.

  16. This is ludicrous. The man should not have been arrested. Freedom of speech is a precious thing, and the cost of it is tolerating those who say things we don’t like. (This is, though, categorically different from attempting to invoke “freedom of speech” to justify harm to, and discrimination against, others.)

    Also, I find the idea that anyone would need a “permit” to express their beliefs in public rather menacing. If it is used against a preacher today, it could just as well be used against the LGBTI community tomorrow.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 14 Sep 2013, 12:32pm

      Whether we like it or note, permits notwithstanding, the fact of the matter is, he broke the local council law in regard to public events which applies to both religious and non-religious events alike. The rule of law doesn’t make provision for ignorance thereof.

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