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Scottish singer Michelle McManus: ‘I’m Catholic and I support equal marriage’

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  1. That There Other David 13 Sep 2013, 2:47pm

    Excommunicate!! Excommunicate!!

    Well done Michelle. I’m sure it won’t be appreciated by The Vatican, but thank you for voicing what most Scottish Catholics also think.

    1. That There Other David 13 Sep 2013, 2:47pm

      And yes, that was a Dalek reference.

      My apologies….

    2. same thing in the USA about 51% of catholics support marrriage for gay pepople under the law.

      the new pope “gay marriage is the work of the devil while he was in argentina. Of course he’s still looking in his and RATZIngers mirrors

      they will get nutter and nutter as eg scotland and prob state by state AU do what Englland / Wales have done

  2. Perhaps she’d be better just not patronising a child-mollesting, mind-controlling, homophobic outfit …?

  3. Robert in S. Kensington 13 Sep 2013, 4:13pm

    What is so fascinating is that catholics in countries with and who support equal marriage by far outnumber those who are against, whereas Anglicans and most evangelicals’ numbers in support are far lower. I wonder why that is? You would think Catholics would be the most unsupportive given the dogmatism of the faith and its hierarchy. Well done, Michelle McManus and thank you.

    1. Paul Essex/London 13 Sep 2013, 7:10pm

      I’m CofE (well at times, normally during very bad turbulence on a flight), but I think that that dogmatism has created a climate whereby the RC says one thing and a lot of Catholics ignore it and get on with their lives, like contraception for example. There are a lot of things the RC preaches which are simply untenable for its straight members, so that conflict with what they believe and what their Church tells them they should believe is something they are used to. Anglicans alive today however, can use contraception, get divorced, and haven’t been told their beloved pet has no soul so won’t be getting into heaven (which sounds daft but I’d say it’s pretty important to a large proportion of the congregation, being elderly widowed people whose only companion is a dog or cat). Most of the Anglican teachings still fit nicely with it’s members in the 21st Century and don’t challenge them, so when the CoE says something is wrong I think that they are far more likely to believe it.

    2. I fully agree, The reason, as Paul also points out, is probably that the RC has fallen so behind the times that Catholic identity (the real one, not the RC-desired one) implies a big does of “pick and chose”. Hence you end up with a majority of countries that have SSM being majority-Catholic ones. And few people see any conflict about it, even if they fully identify as Catholic.

  4. Paul Essex/London 13 Sep 2013, 5:17pm

    “I’m Catholic so marriage to me means a couple of things…obviously it’s me standing up in front of God, that’s MY own personal belief, but marriage more widely just means making that absolute union with someone that you love and saying that you’re going to commit to this person for the rest of your life”

    Thank you Michelle, for pointing out that marriage is not exclusive your religion (or anyone else’s), and that there are those of faith who don’t believe they have carte blanche over marriage and that it’s not about ‘picking a side’.

  5. I guess that’s the end of singing before the pope for her, at least for while.

    Won’t do her any harm at all though!

  6. Isn’t a “Catholic” that disagrees with the Pope actually a “Protestant”? The Pope is infallible, so if you don’t follow his teachings you aren’t following Catholicism. I wish people would stop lending legitimacy to a church that they do not respect.

  7. Michelle is a great woman, she visited my school st. Matthew’s in 2010, she has a great sense of humour she swore in a catholic school in front of the teachers they weren’t happy with her, you could tell by their facial expressions

  8. Her stance is a contradiction , just as so-called ‘same sex marriage is ‘ – shamarriage(‘equal marriage’).There’s nothing to stop someone who labels themselves ‘gay’ from getting married .

    Marriage will always be the union of one man and one woman .Two people of the same sex can’t be in union – it’s physically impossible .The word “marriage” isn’t simply a label that can be attached to different types of relationships. Instead, “marriage” reflects a deep reality – the reality of the unique, fruitful, lifelong union that is only possible between a man and a woman. Just as oxygen and hydrogen are essential to water, sexual difference is essential to marriage. The attempt to “redefine” marriage to include two persons of the same sex denies the reality of what marriage is. It is as impossible as trying to “redefine” water to include oxygen and nitrogen.

    Maybe Michelle the failed pop star is after the ‘gay’ pound and the bad taste that goes with it ?

    1. That There Other David 14 Sep 2013, 5:53pm

      If anything around here has “failed” Ray it is your arguments.

      Marriage Equality is coming to Scotland :-)

    2. Yes gay people can get married, but only if we marry people of the opposite sex but for a gay man or women to wake up every morning and tell our opposite sex partners we loved them we would only be lying to them. Many gay people have gotten married to people of the opposite sex and the result is anything but a happy ending, and take my word for it two people of the same sex can be In a union, and lets be honest if the if we said marriage was a union solely between two people of the same sex and justified this with tradition and religion you would protes just as much as us. you have no say if two consenting adults want to commit to each other, and with all due respect many Christian denominations spend their money on denying two loving adults the right to marry. When it could by helping those in need and you think you have the morale high ground on this issue.

      1. Paul Essex/London 15 Sep 2013, 1:02am

        He’s troll, he’s been here all the time for years now making anti-gay comments.

    3. I don’t know if it’s just the weed, but the “2 people of the same-sex cannot be married – it is physically impossible part made me laugh so, so much. Thank you for the perfect end to a hilarious evening !

    4. That may be your religious slanted view Ray! but marriage is quite simply the conferring of mutual next of kin status on the spouces who have agreed to be married, which is recognised in law.
      There is no consumation etc in Scots law.
      Religious celebrants (or humanist celebrants) have a privilage to act in place of the registrar to witness the couple marry one another in front of three witnesses one of them, the celebrant being responsible for returning the marriage “schedule” duly witnessed by the participants to the registrar, to legally register the marriage.
      The only change is to allow same sex couples to marry and legally register that marriage, same as any other couple.
      No one is compelled except [ by their duty], the registrar to conduct and have registered a valid marriage for all eligable couples, those of close next of kin are excluded from eligibility.

      That wasn’t hard, was it?

      Oh, and a whole lot of un-necessary “protections”, for religious desenters.

  9. You cannot be a Catholic and at the same time support these things…

    1. You also cannot be a catholic and have sex if it does not result in you having children yet I see the no anti gay Catholics complaining

    2. She just rocked your world then *finger snap* *hair flip*

  10. Michelle is not a Catholic if she does not believe and follow the teachings of the Church. You can not pick and choose, it is all or nothing.

    1. Clearly you can; many Christians are speaking out against homophobia and accepting LGBT as a natural part of life. Either that or Michelle McManus is a revolutionary ! You got the Pope himself saying “who am I to judge” which is a big shift towards “tolerance”. (you know, basically just pretending we don’t exist like everyone else instead of using us as a scapegoat, blaming us for everything, and singling us out as the greatest “sin” with cruel hypocrisy and ignorance. They ignore other sins completely

      It will come. Not because gay people will force it on them, or because the state will force it on them, but because we are simply not going to go away. They will have to accommodate them some time or increasingly risk further alienation. The Catholic Church is very aware of the power of PR and their public image. They will change, because they are chameleon reptiles who have to change in order to adapt and survive the blinding truth of reality beating down on them. tick tock tick tock .

    2. The RC Church’s teachings are themselves a long catalogue of picking and choosing.

  11. Marriage is quite simply the conferring of mutual next of kin status on the spouces who have agreed to be married, which is recognised in law.
    There is no consumation etc in Scots law.
    Religious celebrants (or humanist celebrants) have a privilage to act in place of the registrar to witness the couple marry one another in front of three witnesses one of them, the celebrant being responsible for returning the marriage “schedule” duly witnessed by the participants to the registrar, to legally register the marriage.
    The only change is to allow same sex couples to marry and legally register that marriage, same as any other couple.
    No one is compelled except [ by their duty], the registrar to conduct and have registered a valid marriage for all eligable couples, those of close next of kin are excluded from eligibility.

    That wasn’t hard, was it?

    Oh, and a whole lot of un-necessary “protections”, for religious desenters.
    Protections they already have. Including the ECHR an’ all.

    1. Can you tell I’m heartly sick of all this religious exceptionalism?

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