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In 29 US states you can be fired for being gay, Obama says this must end

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  1. In Sweden it became illegal to fire someone for being gay in 1987.

    1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 10 Sep 2013, 8:58am

      Lovely Sweden !

      1. They have a great parental leave system as well, last I checked. However, they have totally screwed over sex workers, in a way that is causing problems worldwide. So they’re not entirely lovely.

        1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 10 Sep 2013, 1:21pm

          Thanks, Sophie ! No country is entirely lovely- Not even Dreamland.

    2. In Canada it was 1969

      1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 10 Sep 2013, 2:27pm

        Darren, are you aiming at Same-sex sexual activity ? In Sweden that was allowed in 1944. In Denmark in 1933. In Iceland in 1940. In Norway in 1972.( In Ca. in 1969.) : Short info.

    3. Yes, it’s about bloody time this was ended.

  2. I got denied from 2 bars for not having the “right look” – one meaning female, and the other meaning straight and muscley. The sad thing was the second job was advertised by a man I know to be gay; he was discriminating against his own people! Of course I couldn’t just take them to court and say they didn’t hire me because I was gay – they would say it was because they hired someone with more experience or had better qualifications and you essentially can’t prove anything anyway.

    Who cares what the bar man looks like though, I need a drink !

    The protection from deliberate discrimination by legislation is a crucial aspect of healthy business practice and job opportunities for LGBT people; but if they don’t want to hire you, they won’t hire you. It’s about changing the minds of the people, not just the laws. In reality, people can work around the laws very easily if they want.

    They should want us to be their managers. We make great managers. Why can’t they see that?

    1. “They should want us to be their managers. We make great managers. Why can’t they see that?”

      Who is ‘we’? I certainly wouldn’t make a good manager.

      This law is mostly to stop people being fired from jobs they already have when employers discover that one or more of their employees is gay. It may not be perfect and stop every occurrence but it will help. It also empowers people to know the law is on their side and disempowers the homophobes too.

    2. Unfortunately, in many bars the good looks and/or muscles of barmen are very useful in pulling in the punters, just as in some occupations the accent with which you speak makes a big difference – it mightn’t be nice, but that’s the way it is.

      Like Andykins, I also disagree with your statement “we” make great managers” – a taste for cock does not necessarily manifest itself in management technique, it’s completely and utterly irrelevant: that is the point of equality legislation.

  3. Julian Morrison 10 Sep 2013, 1:35am

    How about trans too? Or is this yet another case where the “T is silent”?

    1. Good at reading 10 Sep 2013, 10:17am

      Read the article:

      “ENDA would change that by adding sexual orientation and gender identity to federal workplace discrimination protection, including race, religion, gender and disability.”

    2. It says in the article “ENDA would change that by adding sexual orientation and gender identity to federal workplace discrimination protection, including race, religion, gender and disability.”

  4. Christopher in Canada 10 Sep 2013, 1:57am

    Tell me again what it was that united these disparate states.

    1. de Villiers 10 Sep 2013, 7:38am


  5. Disgraceful in a supposedly civilised society. However, not surprising considering the deference still so prevalent there for religion.

  6. “Jesusland” (the USA…) is slowly becoming a less anti-gay place.

    I will bet Tennessee, Texas and Alabama will be the last 3 hold outs.

  7. Only became illegal 10 years ago in all of UK?
    Sounds barbaric now.

  8. this country pokes its nose in everywhere and yet as so much it should be sorting out in its own back garden

    1. And they are, that is what the article is about. A president sorting out his own backyard. So what is your point?

  9. Derek Williams 10 Sep 2013, 6:46am

    The Obama administration’s support for LGBT issues is not, never has been, and never can be “for votes” on any rational basis because we are a tiny minority of 5-10% of the population whose vote is therefore demographically insufficient to be a threat.

    Hard as it is for the anti-Obama people to stomach, it is just possible he is acting on principle, and actually doing the right thing, because it is the right thing, not just to feather his own nest. I would say this about any politician who supports LGBT equality.

    1. I agree Derek, It is because its the right thing to do. I think its the same with Cameron. Although the LGBT vote is small many hetero people think its the right thing to do too. Could it be a sign of a more enlightened society ?

    2. “tiny”? seriously? 5-10% is tiny? Obama won the election over Romney by a far smaller percentage than that and they were calling it a landslide.

  10. Helge Vladimir Tiller 10 Sep 2013, 8:57am

    Shame on you, USA ! Don’t pride yourself too much.

    1. This is an article about a US president wanting to change the current situation.It doesn’t mention US pride anywhere.

      1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 10 Sep 2013, 1:35pm

        I don’t doubt Obamas personal view at all. I welcome it. But what about mentioning the situation for LGBTQ persons in Islamic countries USA have a strong relation to. NEVER happens ! No- keep the alliance intact. We must not risk losing political influence—

  11. Jock S. Trap 10 Sep 2013, 9:21am

    This shouldn’t be around in 2013 at all.

    Time to sort and make sure Gay taxpayers get equal treatment.

  12. And in Pakistan you can be murdered by one of Obarmy’s drones just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    Oh the hypocrisy of this vile man, and shame on The Pink for giving him succour when the rest of civilisation sees him as the wolf in sheep’s clothing he really is.


    1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 10 Sep 2013, 9:45am

      A very valuable remark, Samuel B. Nuances are important–looking at facts from different standpoints ! Greetings from Norway !

    2. Highly unlikely. Far more likely you will be killed by a bomb in the market place put there by a fellow muslim.

      1. As sponsored and planted by CIA operatives you mean?

        Yeah, right!

      2. Helge Vladimir Tiller 10 Sep 2013, 1:47pm

        Yes- in Irak for instance. Totally destroyed by a former President ( Bush ). This devil should be jailed for lifetime. More than one million casualties : dead, wounded or totally devastated. Just another US President !

    3. Dolly_Digest 10 Sep 2013, 3:54pm

      Obama has done nothing to be impeached for. Are you usually this irrational Sammy B?

  13. Oh, paleez. I was effectively fired from Apple for being Gay. The store manager is (she is still there) admittedly very right-wing, “pro-family”, promoted only known heterosexuals. Gays would leave out of disgust. I have a BS in Electronics, extraordinary customer and teaching skills, and was passed over numerous times by newly hired high school kids. I complained to Apple HR, but store managers are viewed as gods. My inquiries and complaints were always “lost” or “under review”. Today, there is no record of my emails and snail mails to Apple HR. You’d think a gay CEO would make a difference. No. Managers do whatever they want.

    It doesn’t matter in the least what a law or company policy is, you’ll be removed by middle management, especially if you do their job better than they can.

    Yes, I’m bitter. Tired of large corporations throwing their weight around with impunity.

    1. Wow! When were you fired and in what country? It would be very iinteresting to challenge Apple at the top on their employment protection for LBGT staff, if any of course, judging by your experience.

  14. Robert in S. Kensington 10 Sep 2013, 12:30pm

    Good luck with that, President Obama. With the Congress controlled by republicans, not going to come to fruition with an election two years away. Unless Hillary Clinton decides to run for the highest office, I see a republican in the White House further dashing hopes of enacting ENDA. The handful of moderate republicans are scared of Teabagistan and more concerned on remaining in elected office.

  15. at least the Great State of Minnesota is not one of the 29 listed ……. we are one of the 21 that do have some protections …….and one of the 13 that have the freedom to marry. The US map looks like we are floating in an island with blobs of anti gay all around us ….scary ……

    1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 10 Sep 2013, 1:56pm

      It is scary-and it is a FACT. Attack !

  16. Keep in mind that many of the states that lack a statewide ban on anti-gay discrimination do ban it in their largest cities and counties, so the state count alone doesn’t tell the whole story. For example, Texas doesn’t ban anti-gay or anti-trans discrimination, but 8 million Texans live in parts of the state that do.

    A uniform federal law would be nice, and we’ll get it done eventually, but it’s not going to happen as long as we have a Republican House. Right now we’re better off working to expand state and local protections, IMO.

    That said, I’m glad Obama is pushing ENDA. One of the problems we have is that a surprising number of Americans think antigay discrimination is already illegal everywhere, so having the president use his bully pulpit to raise awareness can really help nudge the ball forward even if it doesn’t result in any actual legislation getting passed during his time in office.

  17. And this is the nation that likes to think it is a world leader? Shame, shame, shame on you

    1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 10 Sep 2013, 6:14pm

      YES- YES, roland ! Thank you so much !

  18. O will make it happen before his term is out…trust!

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