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Russia: First person to be convicted under anti-gay ‘propaganda’ law arrested by his own parents

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  1. Way to slag off your supporters overseas, Nikolai Alekseyev!

    1. The moment you assume you know better than those your are supposed t help you become a gay missionary. Is not a good thing to preach from the comfort of your armchair

      1. That’s right, James Exclamation Mark; let’s do sod all. that’ll really help.

        1. No you take direction from the Russian LGBT. I doub’t the Russian economy depends on export of vodka. It looks a bit shrill and foolish like boycotting clogs if you had a problem with the dutch

          1. We have boycotted clogs for centuries.

            I say ban the RT channel from the EU if it is an unbalanced pseudo news channel.

      2. BlokeToys 2 Sep 2013, 4:06pm

        I suppose the fact that Nikolai Alekseyev has a career to protect and has reason to be an appeaser is nothing to do with it?

        “On 1 October 2010 he was for the first time ever authorized to organize a sanctioned picketing in Moscow with the aim to call for economic boycott of “Swiss Air Lines” due to its role in the arrest of Nikolay Alekseev at Moscow “Domodedovo” airport on 15 September 2010″

        So, he criticizes boycotts from those around the world, even though he himself has organized boycotts?

      3. You preach to people from your armchair too mate (on this site)

      4. Staircase2 3 Sep 2013, 3:40am

        Not true

        This is not about ‘knowing better’ – it’s about raising international awareness and bringing very real pressure onto the Russian Government as a result.

    2. Daniel in Russia 2 Sep 2013, 3:43pm

      Alexeyev has done a lot for the furthering of human rights for LGBT in Russia. Lately, however, he seems to be mentally unstable. Like a week ago he announced via VK that he was insulted by an article someone posted about him in the West and he was ‘quitting activism for good’. A couple days later he changed his mind.

      1. I connected with Alexeyev on Facebook, and it appears his Facebook page has been hacked and some one is posting vile and misleading messages to sabotage him and his message.

  2. A nice example of unconditional love, the parents are scum to do this to their own child.

  3. This is normal in Russia, for decades people under Communist iron rule always denounce others to save own skin. Russia is a country ruled by criminals and murder is commonplace. No rule of law with justice only money and corruption in Russia, Alekseyev is afraid and with good cause they will kill him without hesitation if they lost the Games because of protests in the West.

  4. Wow! And I thought my parents were useless and unkind…
    If I were single I’d marry this poor, brave soul just to give him an escape route from the hellhole that is modern-day Russia!

  5. Oh dear. This is scarey. Echoes of pre-WWII Germany. Where will it end?

  6. I don’t understand what Mr.Alekseyev expects “western” people to do…

  7. Okay just read the article, let me get this right! Parents help police arrest son, police release the teenager. Guy sees this teenager online holding a poster so files for a conviction, however he does not want too do this but is forced to by his Dad because his wife ran off with another woman? What a confusing story?

    This is dangerous territory, Russia is taking away basic human rights. The boy was only holding up a poster…………

    1. Daniel in Russia 2 Sep 2013, 3:46pm

      The activist in question is not a teenager, the article states he is 24 years old. The charge of ‘gay propaganda’ came from the complaint filed by a teenager who lives in an entirely different and remote region of Russia, who had been forced to do so by his father who hates gays because his wife had left him for a woman.

      1. Ah thanks for that. It is a very confusing story….

      2. So it is not that gay people are ‘flaunting’ themselves, as the homophobes in Russia and elsewhere say they do. Rather, it is the homophobes themselves who are actively seeking ‘gay things’ wherever they may be and are deliberately placing their own children in situations in which they would see/read it, then using their own actions as substance to file suit against LGBT people.
        Not only this guy making his child submit a complaint against the activist to give it legal value (I use that term very loosely), but also the thugs who use entrapment to beat up and force the outing LGBT people in Russia. They all deliberately have under 18s involved in what they are doing so as to make accusations relating to ‘propaganda of non-traditional relationships’ against the victim who is outed in the presence of children either against their will, or as in the case of this article, without them even knowing it.

  8. Even under the absurdly vague and meaningless Russian law, it seems unlikely that he could rationally be convicted because some one else put a photo of his poster online, that a teenager then saw.

  9. The Head of the Consular Section, Russian Embassy, Singapore, Bulat Dondukov: The Embassy has received and considered your request for a meeting with an Embassy official with the purpose of submitting a petition from Singapore’s LGBT community. We believe that your protest is prompted by gross misconception and is ill-advised. You have misconstrued developments in Russia. First of all, we want to remind that discrimination of any minority is legally prohibited in Russia by the Constitution. Unlike the former Soviet Union homosexual behaviour is not punishable by the Criminal Code. The recently adopted law has one well-defied purpose – to ban promotion of homosexuality among minors, but not “promotion of homosexuality”, as you claim. The law prohibits promotion in aggressive forms of non-traditional sexual practices among minors. Law enforcement officers now have the right to detain persons who violate the law intentionally (e.g. by conducting public actions near schools and ……

    1. ……………….Law enforcement officers now have the right to detain persons who violate the law intentionally (for example, by conducting public actions near schools and other children institutions). And last, but not least: violation of this law is an administrative, not criminal, offence. – See more at: http://www.fridae.asia/newsfeatures/2013/08/31/12418.russian-embassy-in-singapore-rejects-petition-calling-for-repeal-of-homophobic-laws

    2. Misinformation.

  10. Similar things have been taking place in North Korea, namely people reporting on family members, sending them to prison and death, in order to save their own skin. What we see in Russia currently is a downfall of basic human morality, caused by hatred and hysteria.

  11. BlokeToys 2 Sep 2013, 4:01pm

    Plenty of French people expressed hatred for the Resistance under Nazi rule too, it’s survival, or basic appeasement.

    There are plenty of gay people in Russia who will stay silent, and actively speak out against any protest, because they either fear persecution themselves or want to remain part of a powerful group. Many will turn on their own people just to be part of a powerful group.

    Alekseyev seems to be one of those who will only push it so far, and when the heat is on he’ll back track and become an appeaser to save his own skin.

    And for those in Russia who hate what those outside the country are doing in protest, f-you. It’s not all about you and your pathetic spineless inaction. Some of us are thinking about others in Russia being persecuted and who don’t have a voice, and some of us are just sickened by the support the IOC and others are giving.

    It’s as much about the disdain we have for those ignoring this as it is about those being persecuted in Russia.

    1. Yes. But have in mind that ordinary gay people support the boycotts and actions by the people in the West. As of Alekseyev, his case is not unique. In Russia it can happen that staunch activists suddenly change sides. Usually under a strong pressure, because they fear for life or getting ruined. Sometimes they get payed or offered important positions. Such was the case of the Chechen Kadyrov clan, which suddenly switched sides in 1999 and started persecuting their own people in exchange of being granted the power by the Kremlin. It is as if IRA suddenly started fighting for the government in London and began a terror campaign against the Irish on its behalf. I know it is impossible. But not in Russia.

    2. Dan Filson 2 Sep 2013, 5:38pm

      Helping your own son get arrested is quite another thing from keeping your head down and surviving during the Naxi occupation. There’s a point where the line is crossed between survival and aiding the enemy, and these parents crossed the line.

      To demonstrate in this way, knowing the law, was very brave and you can only salute such a guy and those like him..

      “I have no doubt that we shall win, but the road is long, and red with monstrous martyrdoms.” Oscar Wilde 1898

      1. I would imagine that the parents have a very strong moral moral objection to their son’s proclamation, not unlike when deeply religious families declare their gay counterparts dead in the eyes of god. Here the Russian government provides a crutch for the parents to lean on.
        Needless to say, I think the actions of the parents in this case are inexcusable, but probably have more to do with their personal homophobia than the law: they most likely felt humiliated by their sons actions, and even possibly, afraid for his life (while of course making the erroneous assumption that he would be safer in police custody).
        I say this as a Russian person who 6 years ago came out to my father. Two months following my confession, my father was dead due to either an intended suicide or accidental drug overdose. Upon my arrival for his funeral, the rest of my Russian relatives unequivocally blamed me for his death (while still ordering a church service for him, which is not allowed for suicides).

  12. LGBT organisations in West should be interested in this man’s situation and help him if he needs moral and material support. We can’t leave him to his fate.

    1. Mohamed Salieu Kamara 2 Sep 2013, 4:48pm

      In my own view on LGBT activist around the world today we a living, like countries where homosexuality is illegal is like a death man working on the street, the west should send there support in order to protect gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people and there supporters from homophobic attack, LGBT people have the rights also on this earth we are living.

    2. Brent Smith 3 Sep 2013, 4:53pm

      It would be nice to think so, but we can, and will, leave him and many others like him, to their fate. What else would you expect from a country which is so lacking in honour that it can deny right of residence to the Afghan interpreters who fear for their lives and the lives of their families when we leave them to THEIR fates?

  13. Mohamed Salieu Kamara 2 Sep 2013, 4:53pm

    As a youth and a citizen of Sierra Leone, and human right activist, I am always looking for opportunities to join the world to address issues leading to making the world a better place, alleviate poverty and to motivate others to ignite positive change. The is the change that we need, campaigning to change the law that make homosexuality illegal in Sierra Leone, campaigning also for equal rights.

    The freedom we want for ourselves should be the freedom that we should want for others, homosexuals and lesbians not excepted. The media, religious bodies some civil society associations and organizations sometimes condemn same sex relationship and marriages. News of killing and molesting of Gays and lesbians is rampant.

    With all of these recorded events, when will people wake up to the call of gay and lesbians rights and hearken to the cry of activist? As long as what gays, Lesbians and bisexuals practice do not affects us, we should let them be

  14. The Devil has a special place in Hell for people who act as this guy’s parents did.
    There is no room for forgiveness with those actions.

  15. Dan Filson 2 Sep 2013, 5:31pm

    Headline “First person convicted … ” Story “First person to face conviction … ”
    Whoever writes the headlines should be taken to the courtyard and publicly spanked.

    What a brave guy. Time to leave the parental home I think. With parents like that, who wouldn’t leave home?

  16. RedDevil9 2 Sep 2013, 6:09pm

    And still many anti-gay people in Britain are saying that ‘this is no different than the Tories’ Section 28′. It’s clearly very different.

  17. Cant find him on twitter, which is a shame, as be good to send him supporting messages – so he knows he’s not alone, Mark

    1. Here is his VK page (Russian social network): http://vk.com/daisakov
      And his phone number (listed publicly on profile page): +79872600412

    2. And here’s a short video clip of Dmitry talking about the reasons he is protesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElyoVqIrD2w (in Russian). A very calm, intelligent, nice person.

  18. It is also important to mention that Dmitry Isakov was fired from his job at Sberbank on July 30, a couple of weeks after he had staged his protest. No satisfactory explanation was given, and Dmitry strongly believes the dismissal was related to his LGBT activism. He had a job contract with Sberbank until May 2015.

    Sberbank is the largest bank in Russia and Eastern Europe, and the third largest in Europe. It is majority owned by Central Bank of Russia and in practice acts like a state bank, hence following state policies. Sberbank operates in former Soviet republics, Turkey and Eastern Europe countries. Eastern Europe LGBT activists should look into boycotting Sberbank for its homophobic and anti-activist stance.

    1. Source: http://grani.ru/Society/Xenophobia/m.217444.html .

      Use http://translate.yandex.ru to translate from Russian—it’s pretty good.

  19. Derek Williams 3 Sep 2013, 12:55am

    Putin is in deadly embrace with the Russian Orthodox Church to garner enough votes to override the Russian Constitution and allow himself perpetual power as permanent president.

    1. Mihangel apYrs 3 Sep 2013, 8:43am

      aka “TSAR”

  20. Staircase2 3 Sep 2013, 3:38am

    For Nikolai Alekseyev to be so dim as to dismiss the Russian Vodka boycott and the proposed Olympic Campaign is ridiculous.

    ALL these campaigns have an important part to play in bringing pressure to bear on the Russian Government.

    Many of them work SOLEY because they capture international media attention.

    1. like the stop murder music campaign. I became highly visible overnight and had to deal with some rather aggressive Jamaican people while the people who instigated the campaign felt no change in their circumstances until Tatchell got a death threat and the campaign stopped. Now LGBT people are in more danger in Jamaica and the music continues so it was a complete waste of time. Now if they bothered to ask the Jamaican people how to deal with it first things mat have been different

  21. Remember that Russia still believes in conversion therapy.

    I suspect the parents do love their son, but see this as a sort of ‘intervention’ to help cure him.

    This is the sad reality of the Russian laws, the fostering of these backward notions that most in the west now realise are false.

  22. I always wanted to travel from Vladivostok to St Petersburg on the Trans-Siberian…but now, as an openly gay, Jewish man, I wouldn’t dare try it.

  23. Brent Smith 3 Sep 2013, 4:46pm

    Nothing much to do except pray for this poor lad. Do not look to the governments of the West for compassion, you will find none of it; only lip service to minorities whose votes they crave. I’m afraid it is a pretty vicious world beyond England’s shores.

  24. How about one of the gay or human rights organisation, organise a protest at the Russia embassy, given day and time, it does work; France is doing it. I remember protesting outside the South African embassy many years ago.

  25. Heh… i’m second in Kazan…

  26. Frank Boulton 6 Sep 2013, 6:01pm

    Most Russian now daren’t contradict official policy for fear of what might happen not just to themselves but to their families as well. Dmitry’s placard reads in full: “Быть геем и любить геев – это нормально.
    Бить геев и убивать геев – это преступно.” I would translate it as: “Being gay and loving gays is OK (great, fine)l. Beating gays and killing gays is criminal.” There’s an arresting pun in the original words, which can’t be captured in translation. Dmitry’s words are worth quoting. Russians might not dare to agree with these words but they won’t forget them.

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