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US: Gay high school student punched and choked by anti-gay bully on school bus

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  1. That makes sense. A young gay kid starting a fight with a bigger football player by using a racial slur.
    What nonsense.
    It’s obvious what’s happened. The jock, looking to act ‘cool’ on the bus, in front of his friends, made some homophobic remarks, beat the kid up, and then to defend himself, blames the other kid for being racist. And being a popular jock has all his friends there to support his side of the story.

    1. That is a lot of assumptions. I am gay, you are gay… have we never insulted someone?

      1. Have you ever insulted someone who you know would beat the hell out of you ? You are really an animal.

  2. We need to stop sugar-coating it with coy words like “bullying” and call it what it is – criminal assault.

    We do not expect adults to put up with acts of violence, so why on earth is it something treated as a rite of passage or a “kids will be kids” thing? The age of criminal responsibility does vary, if in high school, certainly old enough to know that you do not put your hands on someone else (even if they did use an offensive slur, which I doubt).

    1. I agree, there should be no distinction here, bullying is a kid calling another kid names, throwing punches is assault.
      If we translated these types of behaviour from a school bus to an office, the person would lose their job, would face assault charges, and would have punishment to prevent them from doing it again.
      The fact that these are teenagers should be no different, if anything it should be more severe to ensure it is stopped at a young age.

      Assault is assault.

    2. Yes, I’ve noticed that the same people who go on about “feral youth” (bring back the cane etc) are often the same people who think that children (especially boys) should “toughen up” and expect a bit of violence at school if they don’t fit in with certain “norms”. I was reading an article about the bullying of gay children at school on the Mail Online site, many shared this view that the children needed to “man up” and that it was their fault for being bullied.

      Personally I think any form of violence or bullying at school should be dealt with and not simply be dismissed as “part of growing up”.

    3. de Villiers 1 Sep 2013, 12:57am

      Yes – but giving fourteen and fifteen year olds criminal records for the rest of their lives is probably not the best way to deal with this.

    4. How do you know what happened? I have had fights/arguments with my mates (straight) not because I am gay but because of other reasons. I have called them names and vice versa. Stop throwing out this lie that we as gay men are infallible and all nice.

      1. It’s true we don’t know what happened and sometimes people are too quick to jump to conclusions. But it’s also true that homophobic bullying exists, however we should wait for the evidence before we start judging.

  3. David Jordan 31 Aug 2013, 3:24pm

    As a victim of anti-gay bullying and hearing stories from some of my gay friends here in Ireland who were also victims of it, I’ve very little confidence in any school lead investigation and I doubt the US and UK are much better.
    ‘Jocks’ seem to have a green light everywhere to bully other students and victim blaming is still common rather then actually dealing with bullying.
    Some people say the media shouldn’t be brought into cases like this but with schools more worried about protecting the reputation of the school rather then their students, its the only way anything is going to change.

  4. I thought school busses carried CCTV to prevent just this sort of incident. If they don’t, they should.

  5. Openly Fabulous 31 Aug 2013, 6:43pm

    I’ll be you anything the football player is a closet-case. Homophobic attacks are born out of self-loathing – if this were not the case, then why the student’s sexuality bother the football player at all?

    1. Openly Fabulous 31 Aug 2013, 6:44pm

      *would

  6. MadHatter94 31 Aug 2013, 9:25pm

    In a court case, the first person to actually strike or put their hands on the other is the guilty party.

    Words are wind. It doesn’t matter what the gay teen might have said. They were only words, and the jock having assaulted him ought to have the full weight of the law thrown at him for it.

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