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  1. Christine Beckett 31 Aug 2013, 11:53am

    Totally hatstand…..

  2. Revolting preacher is no different to us than a racist in full pointy-hood regalia, or saluting skinhead scum. The message needs to sink in for them and, until they will behave like decent human beings (like their pathetic messiah demands of them) then they must be required by law.

    We are not obliged to tolerate their nonsense in public places and the time has come to stop accommodating them

    1. WrathOfGod 31 Aug 2013, 4:56pm

      Putting your penis into another man’s @rse in not the same as being black, sweetheart. Many people, ESPECIALLY black African-Americans, find your comparison disgusting. Condemning buggery (a wilful, deliberate act) is not the same as hating people because they have a different skin colour. PS. The police Investigating someone’s comments? Talk about Big Brother.

      1. Mihangel apYrs 31 Aug 2013, 5:29pm

        please shut up. Homossexuality is an inate characteristic (in some ways more than colour, since certain deseases cause pigment change!). And no, reparative therapy does not work.

        The sexual act you speak of is practiced also by heterosexual people, as indeed EVERY OTHER sex act between man and man, and women and woman. The only unique heterosexual act is penis in vagina.

      2. Midnighter 31 Aug 2013, 6:05pm

        And who are you to claim to speak for black people? The NAACP make precisely the same point as Valksy and it was also made at the recent MLK anniversary celebrations by multiple participants. While genuinely representative groups and notable black rights figures such as Jesse Jackson have voiced their support, you simply sound like any other uneducated moron with a heart filled with hate.

      3. Many people, ESPECIALLY black African-Americans, find your comparison disgusting. Shut up and find a hobby or someone to love then you won’t care what other people do with their lives. You are either a DL man or are married to one. You are the only people who get really hostile

      4. Hello Keith. Did you really think we didn’t recognize your obsession with bums and willies?

  3. Kelvin Beer-Jones 31 Aug 2013, 12:02pm

    We ought to be putting pressure on Church leaderships across the board to root out deep seated hatred amongst their officers and representatives. if you can get kicked out of a political party for this kind of prurience then why not a Church?

    1. Because the church members secretly condone this kind of behaviour. Everyone tells me I’m wrong to hate the Methodist church, but the church I went to wanted to ‘cure’ me, and they were methodists.

      1. Don Harrison 31 Aug 2013, 11:58pm

        Sevrin do not to that.
        You can not Tar everone with the same brush.
        BTW I do not go to a Methodist Church and doubt if I ever will.

  4. Jock S. Trap 31 Aug 2013, 12:06pm

    No doubt if we picketed and interrupted their Sunday services they wouldn’t like it either so what’s the difference?

    The difference is of course these people believe they are above any law of the land.

  5. This guy needs more Pb in his brain.

  6. Yes he is deeply inpleasant and offensive. But when you criminalise offensive emails promising hell fire etc, you make a rod for your own back.

    Learn to argue back and reply in kind.

  7. Esmik D'Aguiar 31 Aug 2013, 12:24pm

    Just as well it wasn’t the Nottingham pride.They would have been torn limb from limb.

  8. Godric Godricson 31 Aug 2013, 12:36pm

    Norwich the home of seriously hot guys.

    1. Mumbo Jumbo 31 Aug 2013, 12:45pm

      And tractor porn.

  9. keith francis farrell 31 Aug 2013, 1:15pm

    I would like this man to prove to me that the bible is the truth, now this means concrete proof not just the book. because you could also say Spiderman exists simply because you can read about Spiderman. a large percentage of the bible is stolen from other religions. The Catholic church has all the records but they will never make that public. I am so sick of these Christian nuts, who want to enforce their view of what’s right and wrong on everybody else

    1. Don Harrison 1 Sep 2013, 12:00am

      It is a matter of faith.

      1. That explains nothing whatsoever, although granted it used to work in the past. Try using “It’s a matter of faith” to excuse other types of offensive or controlling behaviour, you will be either sectioned or arrested.

    2. de Villiers 1 Sep 2013, 1:04am

      The bible is not truth – it should be seen as containing metaphors that encapsulate essential truths. The stories should not be read literally but understood for the message that they seek to express.

      1. It is a pretty mad message in any case. Or messages. And they don’t add up to anything that makes sense.

    3. de Villiers 1 Sep 2013, 1:06am

      Sorry – I should have said the bible is not literally factual history. It is truth in the sense I described. People go badly wrong when they try to make metaphorical stories into concrete literal facts.

      1. But come now de Villiers, you can’t deny that at the time these tales were written (and incidentally when they were conveyed by missionaries) they were almost certainly believed to be the truth?

  10. Assuming that the Christain myth has some foundation in truth (which I doubt), Jesus had two dads and he turned out just fine. So, Rev. Clifford, what’s the problem?

  11. I keep saying it, this all comes back to crazy despots who believe they are “superior”. They are so insecure in themselves and view themselves as so incredibly weak, that they need this to make them feel “special” or powerful.

    Religious leaders are really no different to any other despot… they all have a rabid sense of superiority over others, that they had some kind of “right” to dictate to others. This gives them an inflated sense of self worth.

    Unfortunately, men like this give all religious people a bad name. It’s why I have so little respect for anyone religious.

    There is only so many times you can be attacked by individuals within a group of people before you deem everyone within that group to be a hateful bigot.

    Guilt by association may not be fair, but it’s the best way to deal with groups who continuously attack you.

  12. Robert in S. Kensington 31 Aug 2013, 2:17pm

    Now the shoe is on the other foot, aggressive religious nutters forcing and promoting their own agenda. Does the shoe fit, Sir Gerald Howarth?

  13. Guglielmo Marinaro 31 Aug 2013, 2:24pm

    The police should not be involved in this matter at all. As long as they are not threatening or inciting violence or harassment, people with retarded views on homosexuality should be free to air them to their hearts’ content. It is foolish in the extreme to give this crank and his benighted mind-set the publicity that he is seeking, thus helping him to misrepresent himself as a virtuous martyr.

  14. Mike Homfray 31 Aug 2013, 2:40pm

    At Liverpool Pride we simply laughed at them and made them look even more daft than they already looked. There are so few of them!

    1. Peter & Michael 1 Sep 2013, 8:17am

      We too !, It was a Great Day for Liverpool, we really enjoyed the day, hope 2014 Pride in Liverpool will be even better !

  15. This is nothing different than racism or sexism, if you take his pronouncements and put the meanings into that context it is no different – so it should be here.
    Just because he cites HIS interpretation of his holy scrolls to justify it, is no excuse, he is fomenting hatred and denigrating a minority and implying they should not exist , the fact it may be loosely based on a religious belief is no excuse to stir hatred in a public place. If this was directed at any other legaly protected minority he would be serving jail time!! Enough.

  16. Scarey how brainwashed by religion someone can be – especially someone you’d assume to be intelligent (Doctor …?). I assume he finds homosexuality ‘offensive’ because he spends time obsessing about it? Well, the answer’s simple. Stop obsessing about it and find something more important to do with your time – like sending money to the starving in Africa or Syrian refugees. I think your ‘god’ would award you far more brownie points for that than for allowing your self-hatred to spill over into persecuting a few people having a good time in a park.

  17. Mihangel apYrs 31 Aug 2013, 5:24pm

    When will the media stop attaching self-awarded coutesy titles these people: “reverend” indeed? Not much worthey of reverence!
    st holy”?
    Alternatively, may I claim “mo

  18. Well done Dr Clifford! You have every right to your views. Jesus is a wonderful Saviour!

    1. What about those that don’t want to be saved?

      Will it be done forcibly?

      1. Jesus forbade force (Matthew 6:52) as did Paul (Ephesians 6). He did however tell us to preach the Gospel to everybody (Matthew 28:19) and in a land that claims free speech there shouldn’t be a problem with that should there? Regards,

        1. Sorry, I meant Matthew 26:52.

        2. Problem is as rationality and reason continue to gain ground over superstition, especially superstition that seeks to control others it becomes increasingly offensive. Regards.

        3. MerlynHerne 1 Sep 2013, 8:10pm

          If you are asked to cease and desist and leave people alone, common courtesy says that you should do so. People are not all receptive nor should this be forced on them.

      2. Biffo bear 2 Sep 2013, 8:48pm

        You mean by calling the police and accusing them of Thought-Crime?

    2. I dont think he should be treated any differently from any other person going about distributing leaflets denigrating and misrepresenting a distinct group, inspiring hate and harrassing people, just because he cites divine inspiration for his deeds is not an excuse for this vile behaviour.

      1. Ah, but it’s “faith” you see, so that makes it alright somehow.? It’s a bit like using the word “mysterious” to try to explain the appalling amount of suffering in this world overseen by an omnipotent god.. As if that explained anything at all.

  19. CH Brighton 1 Sep 2013, 3:40pm

    As with ‘Dr’ Sharon James, I am intrigued to know what entitlement Alan Clifford has to be called’Dr’. If it were bona fide, I’m sure he’d be happy to share with us the provenance of his intellectual authority.

  20. How hasj it come to this?

    See something on a leaflet you don’t like? Bin it and move on.

    Britain has become a very stupid country.

  21. soapbubblequeen 2 Sep 2013, 12:35am

    F off Dr Clitoris!! Go and bang your tambourine in a mental asylum where you belong, you old Christianutty!

  22. Biffo the bear 2 Sep 2013, 8:47pm

    It’s great news, isn’t it? One phone call about anyone we dislike, and they get a visit from the police, a fine, a criminal record! And best all, while hating him like poison, we accuse *him* of hate!!!

    I do wonder, just slightly, if times should change at all, whether this precedent might affect us at all?

  23. “I find gay demonstrators offensive and distressing…”

    Then don’t go out of your way to watch them, genius.

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