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US: Porn production halted as actor tests HIV positive just days after ban on bareback filming upheld

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  1. Christopher Kay 23 Aug 2013, 6:44pm

    Surely they all know the risks before engaging in bareback sex. At the end of the day, if these actors are willing to take those risks, then why should the government intervene? Remember that no one is forcing them to make porn OR make bareback porn for that matter either.
    If an actor is unwilling to participate in a bareback scene, he can go to another producer.

    1. As much as I enjoy watching bareback porn, it is not that simple. In our capitalist world, people are pushed into all kinds of jobs which they would not prefer doing in order to feed themselves. The law does put a stop to that. Again, I only seek out bareback porn cause I find it far more exciting but that’s just a pleasure I must put aside now if this is what it takes for actors to survive.

      1. Christopher Kay 23 Aug 2013, 7:57pm

        I don’t know what you mean by “survive”. HIV is no longer a death sentence. Yes, it’s a terrible virus, but with HAART it’s manageable.
        Secondly, you can’t tell me that the only thing that porn actors can do is have sex on camera. That’s both belittling and insulting to the men who do it.

        1. HIV may no longer be an instant death sentence, but it is a life sentence to lifelong drugs, drug expenses and drug side-effects – an enormous layer of life complication that can never be allowed to go away. It’s like saying losing a leg isn’t a death sentence – that’s true, but it’s still a life that can feel more limiting.

          Also, not everyone in the world has such ready easy access to anti-retrovirals either (especially in the developing world), and are doomed to longterm non-treatment.

          Treated HIV is better than untreated HIV or AIDS, but not having HIV in the first place is best.

          1. “but it is a life sentence to lifelong drugs, drug expenses and drug side-effects – an enormous layer of life complication that can never be allowed to go away.”

            As someone who has HIV I do not consider it to be a “life sentence”, I do not have any medication side effects & now that I am on maintenance mono-therapy the cost to the NHS is significantly lower than the usual triple combinations. Whilst I appreciate my experience is probably very different to that of many people living with HIV, I think it is important not to overstate the difficulties some people may have. These difficulties are usually associated with late diagnosis & the effect of the early treatment regimens, which were very toxic. HIV treatment & care in the UK is the best in the World, with very good outcomes for the majority of us.

            I dislike the way people with HIV are often portrayed in the media, words like “life sentence” “sufferer” “carrier” are not helpful & are quite frankly rather insensitive.

          2. HIV treatment & care in the UK is the best in the World, with very good outcomes for the majority of us.

            Yes, but these guys are in the USA where, as you know, it’s a very different story.

          3. Agreed………………. the US has a very poor record when it comes to retaining people into HIV care because of the healthcare system; I agree that it is better to not have HIV. I just think referring to the condition as a “life sentence” is not at all helpful no matter where in the world you are located.

            We often talk about cancer being in remission, I consider that my HIV is in remission because it is well controlled & poses very little threat to my life in the long term. It is a difficult balance to strike on how best to describe HIV that is not overly emotional, yet does not under estimate the seriousness of the undiagnosed condition. Early diagnosis, access to treatment (often a problem in low income Countries) & good adherence (which of course can be a challenge for some) will ensure good outcomes for the majority.

          4. I take your point but the simple use of a condom reduces the risk of getting HIV by such an enormous percentage that I don’t really think it can be compared to cancer and its treatments. The wilful ignorance, underpinned by greed, of promoting barebacking is heartbreaking.

          5. Obviously the route by which cancer & HIV become conditions that individuals live with is very different. We should be able to move away from the emotionally charged view that HIV is predominantly transferred via sex, (therefore considered shameful or to be hidden) & take the view that both conditions can be described as being in remission. Individuals who have a history of having an undetectable HIV viral load are extremely unlikely to pass the virus on, even where condoms are not consistently used – it is the undiagnosed group that pose the greatest risk to themselves & are a public health concern.

            HPV is a sexually transmitted virus that can result in throat & anal cancers, yet there does not seem to be the same fear & negative associations made with this type of infection. I am sure many view HPV very differently to HIV, I have to wonder why – poor level of understanding I am guessing!

      2. As much as I enjoy watching bareback porn

        Watching people actively risk (for the sake of a piece of latex) a lifelong, if no longer always fatal, disease gives me no pleasure at all.

        1. Different strokes for different folks I guess. Personally I have no use for condoms. I have bareback sex with my boyfriend all the time. We are a monogamous couple with no previous sexual encounters and no history, genetic or otherwise of any sexual health problems. It saves us money, that extra bit of hassle during our sexual spontaneity and is a lot more intimate. So when I watch porn, I have always enjoyed seeing a reflection of that. However, knowing that gay porn actors are clearly not monogamous, I will support the use of condoms as a rule.

          1. If there are any youngsters reading this it’s a lie. Using condoms is not a hassle and not using them do not make sex more intimate. James j you should be ashamed but I don’t think you give a crap about anyone else

          2. James!, there’s no need to be so nasty. I certainly “give a crap” about “anybody else”. I state it in both my messages on this topic that I support the use of condoms with gay porn actors because of the nature of the business. If I didn’t care, I’d be protesting the decision to implement the use of condoms. Please don’t be acting like a man of the people by arguing with my personal choices. I’m not a politician nor are you. What I do is my business and I only shared it to explain why I enjoy seeing porn with bareback sex. It is clear my statement was a personal one, whilst also highlighting my monogamous lifestyle and clean bill of health which makes me feel free to go bareback. I don’t encourage barebacking amongst promiscuous people or people who aren’t sure of their genetic health and I never did. Going bareback is intimate for me and it does avoid that small bit of hassle for me, when there is absolutely no need for me to wear a condom in the first place.

    2. This really has nothing to do with the safety of the actors. It has to do with the safety of the watchers, because bareback pornography promotes bareback sex as somehow a better idea, to the detriment of public health.

    3. Surely they all know the risks before engaging in bareback sex.

      Do they? How can you be certain their education in this respect has been adequate? You can’t imagine the producers who stand to make exponentially greater profits from depicting unsafe sex are going to ensure the actors have been properly briefed about the risks they’re taking, can you?

  2. Benjys HIVNews + + + + 24 Aug 2013, 5:58pm

    Still no support or help for the people living with hiv/aids abandoned after London Aids Charity UKCs collapse staff claiming “sordid truth” will come out
    The Charity workers wear little hearts n ribbons to pretend they care lol
    people silenced from having a voice for years Scandal after Scandal revealed

    1. Polarity63 24 Aug 2013, 6:15pm

      What does your comment have to do with this particular story – NOTHING AT ALL! Are you incapable of entering into a single debate without mentioning irrelevant long defunct HIV charities, which because they were badly run have gone to the wall? Take your issue up with the Charity Commission, your MP, or anyone else who takes the same view as you. These comment pages are not the place to be constantly spamming about a cause that only you are interested in!

      If you have conclusive evidence of wrong doing take it to the Police or a grubby tabloid newspaper. Enough of your irrelevant outbursts!

  3. Huge increase in Gay Hiv Diagnosed 24 Aug 2013, 6:26pm

    With hiv infection rates up with such a huge increase amongst gay men infecting each other whyworry the gay comnunity in London appears to.be infecting each other calling it equality lol
    Why have so many London Gay Men committed suicide ? and continue to this day ? Cant b that great being gay :-(

    1. It’s more to do with the attitudes from people like you which gay people have to contend with at an early age that is attributed to suicides among gay man.

      If you’re going to come on a gay web site and talk about HIV and issues affecting gay men – at least know what you’re talking about.

      I love being gay – gay sex is great, gay men are great – being gay is great – do you understand that???

  4. Sandra Hiv 5years in poverty n sick 24 Aug 2013, 7:42pm

    What does Positive Nation Mag mean its jobs for the boys n dishonesty ? ? ? and . Ine day sordid truth about London Aids Charity Sector will come out ? Anyone knowplease help.me I cant make head.nor tail of these statements ? ?

  5. Come to think of it, I can’t remember the last time I saw a condom in a porn flick

    I watch a lot of porn as well

    dat sh!t kray

  6. Jane HIV in POVERTY 24 Aug 2013, 8:33pm

    Cansomeone advise me what aids charity UKC management Spent their £10,000-15,000 payrises on as revealed by gay journalist from Pos Nation Hiv Mag shocked £90,000cost of closing down UKC due to “poor records n book keeping”
    Another £90,000 wasteddisgraceful while im living in poverty sick sick sick
    what happened to Ukc £75,000 rescue package ? Someone tell me show u care
    more money wasted while im living in poverty while sick and people needlessly died in poverty in UK as money squandered SHAMELESS

  7. Back on topic… I have to agree with Rehan- bareback porn somehow makes BB sex somehow more ‘glamerous’ or more ‘fun’ than the safer options- which seems to have a knock-on effect on infection rates in the general population- especially young people. I obviously can’t judge couples who make considered choices not to use condoms, but these films don’t even show that there ARE choices. Porn is great- but film companies need to take some responsibility.

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