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  1. It really is very simple.
    If you don’t agree with equal marriage don’t get married to a person of the same sex.
    That’s it!

  2. The woman and indeed her group are a real load of numpties.

    What further erosion of marriage is she on about? The fact that so many of her straight friends have been married more than once and that divorce is still on the increase?

    *smacks head against wall*

    1. MarKo Hubert 22 Aug 2013, 11:23pm

      Yes that is true. So she don’t need us to provoque heterosexual marriage erosion. they’re doing just fine without us!

  3. Jock S. Trap 22 Aug 2013, 12:50pm

    or in plain speak… We (C4M) Will continue to discriminate and treat people with bigotry because we’re very sore losers, so insecure with ourselves we need a law to tell others we can do what we want so we don’t have to follow the laws of the land.

    I think that’s more like it.

    Idiots!!

    1. Geoff Jones 22 Aug 2013, 1:08pm

      I completely agree with you, Jock(lol), they are bitter, sore losers who refuse to see the basic facts in front of their eyes. Namely:
      1) Hetero people can still get married just the same as they always did.
      2) Two people of the same sex getting married has absolutely NO implications or consequences for anyone else other than the people involved.
      3) The church of England is not allowed to opt in to conduct same sex marriage, so their precious churches.
      4) Most Catholic churches won’t conduct same sex marriages so the bigots should be “safe” from seeing two people who love each other having thir marriage blessed by God.
      So in summary, they’re just creating much ado about nothing and being nothing but hateful crackpots.

      1. MarKo Hubert 22 Aug 2013, 11:29pm

        The thing is, if I can say it here, that those deluded NEED to make their point. They are right, we are wrong and we MUST change otherwise their perfect little word will grumble and they don’t like it.

  4. Jock S. Trap 22 Aug 2013, 12:54pm

    The fact they continuously need to say ‘real marriage’ and then accuse all others of arrogance says it all really.

  5. B!itch please the government wants everyone to be Christian and to say otherwise is just being silly

    I think they SHOULD change their beliefs though, it’s been 2000 years!! In the words of Billy Connoly it’s OOOOOOOOVEEEERRRRRRR.

  6. Christians do love asserting that victimhood, don’t they. And they also love constructing imaginary scenarios that are either utter nonsense or bare-faced mendacity.

    1. MarKo Hubert 22 Aug 2013, 11:33pm

      Indeed those ultra conservative Christian love being victime and scare people around them with their non sense and apocalyptic’s scenario

  7. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Aug 2013, 12:56pm

    Another rant to justify C4M’s existence and money raking. Pathetic uglyi harridan ought to do some good for a change by helping the poor and needy and she calls herself a Christian? In name only and that’s where the similarity ends.

    As for the erosion of marriage, why doesn’t she have a talk with hetero serial adulterer MP Sir Roger Gale and find out just exactly where equal marriage was involved in his aberrant behaviour?

    C4M is nothing more than a homophobic hate group and should be labelled as such.

  8. Guglielmo Marinaro 22 Aug 2013, 1:02pm

    I notice that if you go onto YouTube, you find that “Comments are disabled for this video.” Now why would that be, I wonder?

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Aug 2013, 1:46pm

      It’s the same with their website. All negative comments are removed.

      1. MarKo Hubert 22 Aug 2013, 11:35pm

        And now we are those who refuse to have a good and honest argument.

  9. bobbleobble 22 Aug 2013, 1:03pm

    That may be their plan of action but the reality is that she and they will fade into obscurity as the money dries up after the attention paid to this the issue dies down.

    You lost the argument, time to move on. I’m sure there a plenty of other minorities for you to persecute in accordance with your narrow minded intolerant and bigoted view of Christianity.

  10. It’s a disgrace this hate group think they can bully their way into getting what they want from the government. This was exactly the same type of propaganda that led to Nazism.
    Shame her parents didn’t teach her the definition of a sore looser.

  11. If you go to the C4M website they say absolutely nothing whatsoever about heterosexual divorce. I think this is proof that the organisation is nothing to do with protecting marriage and everything to do with homophobia.

  12. These are nonentities talking to a handful of deranged loins who are (mercifully) a dying breed.

    Their claims are preposterous. They’ve already failed, and they will continue to do so.

    As for “Doctor” Fake Ph.D James, she really ought to reconsider than jacket. It doesn’t fit her around the bust.

    1. loons* tho ‘loins’ is kinda funny as typos go! :d

  13. Christopher Kay 22 Aug 2013, 1:14pm

    Comments disabled on their YouTube video. Ok I’ll post it here.
    Imagine that they were talking about interracial marriage. Now, you see how ridiculous they sound?

  14. In other words, C4M is going to be getting quieter, and will appear less and less often as time goes on.

  15. CH Brighton 22 Aug 2013, 1:16pm

    Does anyone know what the truth is about Sharon James’s ‘doctorate’? Most sources say it is from the Toronto Baptist Seminary, but on that organisations website, they do not offer doctorates, only undergraduate degrees and Masters degrees (all in religious/ bible studies).

    1. Isn’t that interesting?! I’ve come across references to her having a degree in history from Cambridge, but can’t find any detail about that one way or the other.

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Aug 2013, 1:55pm

        Rehan, you may have seen this.

        http://www.lgbt.co.uk/blog/233-marriage-minutes-01

        1. Yes I did Robert, thanks – but if Toronto Baptist Seminary doesn’t offer doctorates and there’s little evidence to be found of a Cambridge doctorate, it all becomes most interesting.

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Aug 2013, 1:58pm

      I think it deserves in-depth investigation. Wouldn’t it be delicious if her qualifications are all bogus?

    3. Just remember the ‘Reverend Doctor Ian Paisley’.

      1. And “Doctor” Gillian McKeith.

  16. Just because she has Dr. in front of her name she thinks it gives her some gravitas, on the contrary it lowers the standing of the designation for others of similar designation by association.

    This woman is demented and should seek some professional help for her OCD and physiological addiction.

    Just as these “religious” nut jobs had to stop keeping slaves and beating their children and stoning their adulterous spouse as authorised by their “book” they need to accept that attempts to persecute LGBT people is similarly abhorred by decent reasonable people and their “religion” does not give them any special rights to harm others and ignore decent behaviour because it is designated in their “holy writings”.

    It is becoming apparent to more people weekly that religion does not give an indication that the adherent is good and holy, more a designation of bigot and hypocrite and Ms James is only adding to that perception, keep up the good work.

    1. MarKo Hubert 22 Aug 2013, 11:45pm

      I’m sorry here I should make clear that the Bible has never give the autorisation to those nuts to persecute anyone. In fact scholars now use to say that even Jesus was probably gay or bisexual and that the Centurion’s slave he healt was in fact the centurion’s love and Jesus knew about it. It is a question of misinterpretation here for those biggots. They use to read only passages that it confirm in their dreams that Jesus and God are homophobes, but in fact if they read with some historical knowledge they would see their mistakes. but unfortunately it is a work their not willing to do.

  17. We will continue to press the government for civil liberties for people who believe in real marriage.

    The woman is mad! What “civil liberties” have been lost by equal marriage becoming available?

    I note, as do many others, that she isn’t campaigning for the abolition of divorce.

  18. The continuation of a mean-spirited, spiteful campaign. They will be looking for persecuted victims of the Lilian Ladele variety, no doubt, for the Telegraph and the Mail.

    PS A minor point…. Can we avoid using the phrase ‘going forward’? This seems to be everywhere now and means nothing.

  19. I am proud to say I support the right of mixed gender couples to engage in their “marriages” on an equal footing with all us normal gay people. As a Quaker I’m particularly pleased to see that no couple has been turned away from marriage on the basis of mismatched gender. For those people tortured with unwanted different sex attractions, I can only say, try gay sex but if it is not for you, well no one has a right to judge you.

    As to these crazy people who don’t think gay couples should be able to marry, I suggest they might wish to drill holes in their skulls to allow new ideas in and old ones out. Or popcorn.

  20. I would wonder where this bunch of morons get their funding from, something that will inevitably over time dry up. This organisation is doomed and scheduled for extinction.

    This does seem like a last gasp effort from them to hold onto no doubt lucrative jobs.

    The really worrying thing about them is the statement:

    ‘We will promote respect for traditional beliefs about marriage in the public sector, including schools. We will help people who are in difficulty because of their convictions about marriage, and expose injustice.’

    Over the last few days we have seen the shadow clause 28 rearing it’s ugly head once more.

    It would in fact be illegal for a school to promote so called real marriage.

    Any public servant who seeks to promote real marriage will face the sack. And quite rightly.

    This bunch of idiots are quite free to spend lots of money defending bigots. As the law stands they will loose.

    I predict that within a few years, 3-4 at most they will be finished.

  21. I wonder how much Sharon James paid for her fake doctorate.

    I think the going rate is about 50,000 baht on the khao san road in Bangkok. No doubt whilst she was there she popped along to some gogo bars in Silom soi 4 and Soi Twilight (Soi Duangthawee). ( The boys there are still in recovery)

    Oh dear Sharon trying to steal all the boys……….shame on you…….Bitch

  22. “In their arrogance they think everyone should fall into line, and change their deeply held beliefs.”

    Projection much?
    So to sum up, she wants a theocracy where only her narrow definition of “nuclear family” is permitted, and gay people are forced into sham straight marriages.

    She’s welcome to any straight marriage she likes, though if she had her way there’d be a 1 in 16 chance that her husband would be batting for the other team behind her back, a la Ted Haggard.
    After all why be miserable on your own when you can make two people miserable?

  23. In schools? Oh no, you homophobic freaks stay away from children!

  24. I have always been interested in this word ‘belief’ which those of ‘faith’ trot out.

    I remember when it was their ‘belief’ that boys should be beaten in British Schools and they petitioned our then government on the grounds that it was a part of Christian belief.

    So was not having women priests, which they are rowing back on.

    Eventually they will accept the inevitable – that neither these nor their abhorrence of us are really matters of ‘faith’ at all. It is all just bigotry.

    I have no problem at all with people who say they believe in (a) god and would always defend their right to do so.

    What I will never accept is that such Dark Ages talk should have any further role in our C21st world.

    Not in our schools, our laws, our army or any other part of our society.

  25. She is a Hetro Supremacist. Just like White the Supremacist who continues to campaign against mixed race marriage, this dogmatic woman wants to deny people who love each other from getting married, just because they are not like her. This is secular society, and she should live her own life and mind her own bloody business!

    1. Indeed it is. I don’t have a problem with people believing the sky fairy but religious views should be kept for the personal conscience of the individual and shouldn’t inform government policy.

  26. Belief whatever weirdness you want for as long as you want, no one is asking you to change your beliefs. Just leave people who don’t share your beliefs alone. Is that really asking too much?

  27. Mike Homfray 22 Aug 2013, 4:45pm

    This is all rather silly. Once established it just won’t be an issue any more. They will end up looking petulant and silly

  28. Michael Breene 22 Aug 2013, 5:31pm

    She’s no Dr and her education is suspect at most. I’d love to know what cereal box she cut her Diplomas from! Nasty hateful bigoted Cow!

  29. They have to say something in order to justify themselves to their American paymasters. In fact the C4M campaign has been a total disaster.

    I wish Pink News would quality their articles, though, rather than just re-posting videos like this.

    The woman should be referred to as ‘Dr’ James, since she bought a doctorate in theology from an American evangelical ‘college’.

    Secondly, the correct title for this piece would be ‘religious anti-gay group’, since ALL of their shifting and baseless arguments have stemmed from their homophobia.

  30. MarKo Hubert 22 Aug 2013, 11:21pm

    What amaze me is that those people are sooooooooo deluded and soooooo narrow minded that they are actually incabable to see this true: Actually they are doing exactly what they accuse us to do.

    Those people should take a break and relaxe and then try to think seriously.

  31. Angry Paul 23 Aug 2013, 2:37am

    Bring on the debate, b*tch!

  32. MerlynHerne 23 Aug 2013, 3:15am

    Hey all you religious types out there:

    DLDLDP. Don’t Like? Don’t Look. Don’t Participate. Yes, it really is that simple.

    1. Poor loser! Does she seriously expect her campaign will in future succeed if it has already failed? The website is hardly a great advert for their campaign as it only has 600,000 odd signatures supporting it. Even though my views are nationalist, I went on that march against the war in Iraq in 2003 so I had to march with people who couldn’t be more different from my opinions on politics (politics DOES make some strange bedfellows at times) and there were MORE THAN ONE MILLION people on it. If I could take the time to get-up, go to the railway station and march with others in a big demonstration in central London then what effort does it take to sign a website?

      No one is going to repeal the new law. The only ones who would are the ultra-Tory nutters of UKIP, the BNP (effectively dead now) and the DUP who only operate in NI.

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