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  1. Mumbo Jumbo 20 Aug 2013, 12:46pm

    You somehow managed to get through that entire article without mentioning the Orthodox church.

    1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 20 Aug 2013, 4:42pm

      YES, Mumbo Jumbo ! These awful new laws is part of a wider trend in The Russian society. And the alliance between The Church and the law makers ( Putin and his crew included ) is the real DEVIL !

  2. The practice of othering a minority population, and then exploiting that through blame and vilification is as old as politics, and is always deplorable (and always dangerous, no one will ever legitimately say “I didn’t know” because yes they bloody did).

    I have no doubt that it has no purpose other than political expediency for Putin and don’t agree at all that it has anything to do with Snowden. Many of us have protested, as much as we are able, many other anti-LGBT regimes. Our voice may have limited power, but to sleep through what is happening on the global scale is unconscionable.

    As for Russia? Putin is a revolting tyrant, happily getting in bed with the Russian Orthodox church (you must not overlook this) to oppress people for their own gains, and so what if the blood flows.

    The words of Martin Niemoller spring to mind…

  3. It’s sort of sad that a journalist doesn’t know how to properly use the word “instigated”.

    1. It is sort of sad that anyone can claim to be a journalist nowadays.

      1. It’s sort-of sad that anyone (a) uses a phrase like ‘sort-of’ and (b) splits an infinitive (‘to properly use’) when criticizing someone else’s use of English …..
        :)

  4. I agree that there is more going on here, but this is nothing new. The US media revels in humiliating Russia at every opportunity, and the Russian media does the same, running documentaries about environmental disasters in the US, corporate corruption, banking… they are forever taking shots at each other to bolster their own viewership in an attempt to maintain a “cold war like” public attitude to the other.

    This is more to do with a nation needing a distraction, creating an internal enemy. The US does this too, making “illegal immigrants” or “domestic terrorists” some kind of bogeyman, allowing them to push for more controls and draconian laws when they wish, and affording them a distraction when the sh*t is about to hit the fan.

    All nations do this, but the more desperate they become for a distraction, the more dangerous it becomes for the selected minority groups.

    It’s working in Russia right now, but they will have to keep the heat on for it to remain a distraction.

  5. Of COURSE there’s a wider political agenda to this! Russia is emasculated … impotent. Leaders of former Empires will always seek scapegoats when they realize they are no longer important players on the world stage. Little men (metaphorically and actually) like Putin need to keep their people on-side if they want to continue to dictate. Hitler behaved in EXACTLY the same way pre-WWII. As history shows, we ignore this sort of discriminatory treatment of a minority at our peril.

  6. Please take a few moments of your time to sing this petition to put additional pressure on the IOC to uphold its own charter and ensure that no discrimination takes place.
    https://www.change.org/petitions/the-international-olympic-committee-act-against-discrimination-of-gay-people-at-the-sochi-winter-games-2

  7. Is it because they are white? this happens all the time in some black countries

  8. Anything but gay disabled having a voice 20 Aug 2013, 1:59pm

    In their desperate attempts to cover up thr scandals n dodgy practices of thr London Aids Charity Sector while denying disabled gays a voice for many years the lgbt media will report on anything ather thansupport disabled gays or reveal the truth about the London Aids Charity Sector however painful for the lgbt community to read “One day the sordid truth will come out” claimed a gay journalist before they died RESPEC

  9. Fact: Russia’s anti-gay policies are outrageous.

    Fact: Russia is engaged in political disputes with the USA

    That these two things coincide might explain some of the publicity, but not all of it. And I don’t see that as a bad thing. The fact the big bad west might be using anti-homophobia to discredit enemies… well, who’d have thought we’d ever see that?

    If it’s a side issue on a bigger thing, then who cares, if it helps draw attention to dangerous homophobia. Let’s hope it goes the whole way and eradicates it from Russia (fat chance, we can hope!)

    I’m not sure what this hack’s point is. It’s the second piece of unwanted opinion on Pinknews this week.

    1. Kelvin Beer-Jones 20 Aug 2013, 4:15pm

      Homophobia, in the Russias, the catholic church or anywhere else is never a sub-set of a political ephemera. Snowden will soon be forgotten, homophobia is ugly, deep seated and entrenched. It can always be exploited by politicians and thugs. Fry is right, our fight for equality is to prevent a Putin from wrapping his nastiness in clean paper.

  10. Of course it is at least partly geo political and involves a great deal of posturing on the part of Putin. The more Obama has spoken in support of equality in recent months the more strident opposition to equality in Russia has become. Add to that generations knowing nothing (until recently) but totalitarianism.

  11. Helge Vladimir Tiller 20 Aug 2013, 4:32pm

    Russia ranks first in Europe for its number of teenage suicides. A large proportion of them are LGBT teens. But Russia does not even record such statistics. The state is not interested. Politicians give signals that a sexual Identity is a matter of choice.—Poor closeted gays and lesbians in The Russian Duma. ‘Cause there are someone there too ? Of course !!! Guess they are somewhat tormented-

    1. The fact is, in Russian culture it seems that LGBTs are considered a non-issue and that sexual behaviour of any kind is meant to remain “in the closet” therefore the Russians and Russiaphiles don’t see why we’re making a big deal over it.

      It’s not the first time I’ve heard the theory that the Russian LGBT issue is being created by Western government agencies but I suspect the only people buying into this theory and LGBT-ignorant Russiaphiles who can’t see beyond geopolitics. It’s the old cliche “if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail”.

  12. Peter Duncan 22 Aug 2013, 8:05am

    A very well though out article. Similar reasoning could also explain Putin’s support of Assad in Syria, possibly another reason to boycott the Winter Olympics including the sponsors, who coincidently are flag ships of “American cultural imperialism”, Coca-Cola and McDonalds.

  13. yea live to free speach no more homofobic people in the world!!!

  14. Michael Robinson 1 Sep 2013, 6:33pm

    Patrick, thank you for your insight.
    One of the things I have learn from attending the Highlander Center for non-violent civil disobedience protest. Is when you support a community in their fight for equality the first thing you do is to have a conversation. I don’t think that has ever happened from us in the west. Understanding a communities (Why) is extremely important. What I mean by that is, why are they fighting and what is the objective they want to gain in the community they live in?
    Before you enter into someone’s house, you would like to be invited in first. Secondly you want to know how to behave when you are invited. Because when you just jump into a community with your on agenda and things go wrong. They still live there and you get to go back to your community where the those problems may not exist. Lets us listen to what kind of help they want from us first and join them in there fight for equality in their community.
    (UGC) United Gay Community
    Dallas, Texas

  15. Barry Dennison 15 Sep 2013, 12:36am

    New protest song re-written for Toronto’s “Day of Solidarity 2013” as performed by the singing group, “Choir Choir Choir” with a re-imagined version of Sting’s 1986 song “Russians” as performed at the Toronto International Film Festival.

    Listen or download this powerful “Russian Protest” song with a message directed at Russian President Putin, including, “We can’t sit quietly and ignore your political threats … we don’t believe your lies!”

    A song that also calls for peace and understanding.

    https://soundcloud.com/choir-choir-choir/choir-choir-choir-invites-you

    Discussion group: Plans for the future! https://www.facebook.com/groups/PostSolidarityDay2013/

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