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Russian Sports Minister: Uproar over anti-propaganda law is an ‘invented problem’

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  1. BS mr sports minister, BS!!

    1. “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” Mahatma Gandhi

      “Invented problem” = denial = ignoring us.

      1. He’s right really, the problem was “invented” to have a pop at Obama. The more President Obama spoke in support of equality, the further into the dark ages these people went, and the shriller their language became

    2. When truth falls, rogues rule.

  2. Michael F Breen 18 Aug 2013, 3:17pm

    Inbred,bigoted,hateful,souless monster. Go back to the saunas and choke on a dick!

    1. Don’t bring the good name of saunas into it – they’re Finnish, not Russian! :)

      1. Christopher in Canada 18 Aug 2013, 10:03pm

        Or of the art of deep throating!!! Not for nothing are gay men better hung…

  3. GulliverUK 18 Aug 2013, 3:17pm

    They signed up to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which allows free expression, in media, in speech, and that law superceeds Russian law — otherwise Russia can’t be a signatory to the declaration and must withdraw. It effectively outlaws any advocacy for your position and rights in society, that is illegal as all groups have the right to put forward their ideas, and to advocate for their rights.

    Russia should leave the Council of Europe and be removed from the signatories to the UDHR. The UDHR should NOT include every country, because many countries do not meet the entry requirements, it has to remain an exclusive club to which people seek to change their behavior in order to join. Some day I hope everybody will be a member, but you don’t progress human rights by having non-compliant members signed up to something so fundamental to human life.

    Besides this law they have a long, long list of human rights violations in their country — this is just the latest.

    1. This is the very sort of widespread and gross violation of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms That the EHCR was set up to combat.
      The chilling effect of this law is just as important as its judicial effect, it has not yet been used to any extent to prosecute, mostly to intimidate and vilify a vulnerable minority.
      As the rulings’ of the EHRCt are in theory part of Russian fundamental law this Federal “administrative law” should not exist, it is within the power of the Russian Superior Courts to review it, taking into account the EHR Convention and EHRCt. rulings as they influence directly the Russian Constitution.
      Do they have the courage to save face in this way and bring Russian Law into compliance with article 29 of their own Constitution.??
      Its a scary situation when a former super power becomes frightened of painted fingernails and rainbows!

      1. GulliverUK 18 Aug 2013, 7:49pm

        In a word, no, judges are appointed by the political office so they are not independent, and very much open to influence by the government. When I looked here;
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Russia
        it said;

        “The European Court of Human Rights has become overwhelmed with cases from Russia. As of June 1, 2007, 22.5% of its pending cases were directed against the Russian Federation.”

        and then read the 7th paragraph just below, which lists widespread abuse of human rights. We must also remember that it is also now illegal to “insult” the “feelings of religious believers” – which affects everybody. Then there are the elections, which are on a par with Uganda.

        1. Yes I’m well aware of that, I was pointing out that if they wanted to roll back their mess they could do so without directly repealing the laws, it would of course need Putin and his “government” to realise they had overreached and were damaging their society, they will have those who can leave, do so. The educated and unconventional that a society needs to develop to encompass innovation are often those who would be affected by the measures that are in contention. If Putin wants a backward and conventional in all things society backwardly mobile and regressive he is going the correct way about it.
          The smart and innovative people will leave many have already.

  4. Joe in Riverside 18 Aug 2013, 3:28pm

    The IOC and the Russian gov’t had better have security troops en masse to guard against anti-LGBT elements.

    1. They would have to import their security forces from other countries, because Russian security forces are unwilling to enforce their own laws when it requires defending gay people from assaults and abuse.

  5. Too many errors and untruths coming from Vitaly Mutko to be worth responding to.

  6. …..and nail varnish is Propaganda ?

    There may not be an official boycott however the unofficial informal boycott has already begun. People are voting with their feet and and their wallets.

    They’ve blown it.

  7. Paula Thomas 18 Aug 2013, 3:30pm

    Except tthis law is NOT protecting children. It WIL damage a lot of children, it would have damaged me and most of us on this site. The idea behind is that someone can be persuaded into a sexuality against their nature, and that is just about the most ridiculous idea there has ever been.

    1. Very well said.

      Kathryn.

    2. LEONHARD RODE 19 Aug 2013, 9:39pm

      YES, THAT MINISTER OF SPORT OF RUSSIA DOES NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ABOUT BEING A MEMBER OF THE LGBTI COMMUNITY. IT IS THAT LACK OF UNDERSTANDING WHICH MAKES HIM BELIEVE THAT THEIR ACT WILL PROTECT. I AM THE WAY I AM BECAUSE I WAS MADE THE WAY I AM – NEITHER I NOR ANYBODY ELSE DECIDED THAT FOR ME. AT THE AGE OF 8 OR WHATEVER, I CERTAINLY NEVER WENT INTO SOME BIG DEBATE ABOUT WHAT I SHOULD OR WOULD BE – NEITHER DID ANYBODY ELSE. YOU AND I ARE JUST WHAT WE ARE – WAKE UP TO REALITY, MR MINISTER AND WHOEVER ELSE !!!

  8. “We want to protect them against drunkenness, drugs and non-traditional sexual relations.”

    That’s everything you need to know about Russian government’s attitude towards LGBT people. They classify being gay as some sort of dangerous recreation that has to be age-restricted.

    This reminds us that the biggest victims of the new law are LGBT children who are now completely cut off from any help. Helping them overcome bullying and hatred is now illegal.

    1. Many gay people’s mental health is ground to dust and they are booted out or denied opportunities so they resort to drugs, alcohol, self-destructive behaviour or prostitution as a remedy for their troubles and then people have the audacity to turn round and say they’re a drug addicted prostitute because they happen to be gay and not because society turned them into such a mess. Gross.

  9. Derek Williams 18 Aug 2013, 3:46pm

    Persecution won’t make Russian homosexual children heterosexual any more than propaganda will make heterosexual children homosexual.

    Romantic affiliation is discovered at puberty, not chosen. It is dished out by Nature at random, whether we or the Russian government like it or not.

    1. I would add Derek that far from protecting young people they are perpetrating on them a perverse form of child abuse, destroying their self worth and esteem and a physiological torture many of whom will succumb to self destructive behaviour.

  10. How ironic considering their views on homosexuality are an invented problem

  11. Hey, guys, Don’t listen to russian officials. Boycott everything from Russia, boycott Games or pressure IOC to move the Games from Russia. It’s best choice to challenge homophobia in Russia. I’m gay from Russia.

    1. colin Cass 18 Aug 2013, 4:07pm

      hi Vadim ,We in more liberated countries of the World are horrified at the closed minded backward thinking of Russia,however that will not deter all of you’r LGBT brothers & Sisters in the Free world from supporting you! as we must support all our LGBT family throughout the World! Don’t dispair All of our Countries have had to have thier Martyr’s in the struggle for acceptance ,but you,our brother’s & Sisters in Russia will win in the end too!

    2. Vadim,

      Canada is now accepting LGBT asylum seekers from Russia!!! Please tell your friends and see if you can move there until Russia is enlightened!

    3. Peter Duncan 19 Aug 2013, 7:58am

      This must include coca-cola and Macdonalds as they are very recogisible international brands.

  12. Colin Cass 18 Aug 2013, 3:55pm

    So young people in Russia have to wait until they are adult,before they are allowed to
    practice the Sexuallity they were born with & then they are are beaten & Murdered while the Russian Government ,Look the other way.

    1. Nah, even when they’re adults they have to remain celibate because “god made them gay, but he just wants them to remain a virgin all their lives while everyone else gets to have sex and be married” absolute bullhockey

  13. Life for gays in Russia will be only worse in Russia if Putin’s regime will not be stopped. And don’t listen to Alexeyev. He is not represent russsian lgbt people. Actually we hate him. He has done nothing for lgbt in Russia. His last comments on facebook and twitter are against LGBT people in Russia and silly.

  14. Jock S. Trap 18 Aug 2013, 4:26pm

    What they want is for Gay people to be made an example of by bullying, torturing, murdering which is why they lie about the laws true intention and why they dismiss those that have been killed.

    They may be able to pretend the world doesn’t see what’s happening, they may wish the problem was invented for their sorry sakes.

    But you cannot hide facts and the facts show this law is nasty, violent and discriminating.

  15. Robert in S. Kensington 18 Aug 2013, 5:02pm

    “The rights and freedoms of all the people will be protected and will be secured, We are not going to deprive anybody.”

    Really? Except if you’re openly gay then you have no rights, can’t hold hands, can’t kiss, can’t march in Pride parades which are banned? Russia has no concept of freedom, absolutely none. A disgustingly vile, corrupt system and an ignorant, ill-informed hetero society, no better than Uganda and Zimbabwe aided and abetted by their equally vile orthodox cult whose finger prints are all over this.

    About time the ECHR started to make some noise about it.

  16. Robert in S. Kensington 18 Aug 2013, 5:07pm

    Look at all those sponsors on the wall behind him Vodafone is one that sticks out. Every LGBT person should also boycott every sponsor, permanently.

    1. GulliverUK 18 Aug 2013, 5:25pm

      I’m with Vodafone right now, and I could not ever recommend them to anyone – I’m not that cruel. They have the worst customer service I think I’ve ever come across. I don’t know what possessed me go with them … oh yes, the price, but then they only have that price because they are tax-evaders. They are now banned for life, I will not ever use them again, although not over the Olympics. I banned Sony about 15 years ago and have never touched a Sony product since.

      1. There is a war raging between the telecom giants Bell, Rogers, Telus in Canada at the moment. They are trying to block entry of Vodafone buying Canadian businesses so they can set up here.

        The tactics used by these companies to discourage Canadian support for Vodafone hasn’t been going very well. So if they are to good at trying to promote Canadian business ethics, perhaps too they can promote John Baird’s explanation of Canadians accepting diversity and LGBT. These telecom giants should also add to their arguments Vodafone is also a sponsor of the Russian Olympics. It might not help prevent them coming to Canada, but it would encourage people who support LGBT Human Rights from doing business with them… myself for one!

  17. A law that persecutes and deamonises 7 million gay Russians is not protecting anyone Mr Mutko.
    It will have the worst effect on those gay and bi-sexual young people who will come to recognise their same-sex attraction beyond puberty, whilst being fed with anti-gay !propaganda! Which attempts to deny their humanity, mis-information and a lack of respect for their very existance.
    We have observed this de-humanisation and vilification process in other societies and know how it proceeds, if not put a stop to.
    For gay Russians this is NOT an invented “problem” – it is a reality, and a dangerous one at that.
    Why are you frightened of rainbows Mr Minister?

  18. GulliverUK 18 Aug 2013, 5:22pm

    Things we can do including boycotting the sponsors products – I’m already boycotting CocaCola products and McDonalds. And obviously we can boycott anything Russian, that goes without saying, particularly Vodka.

    As far as IOC they have options, they can still move the games – because Russia has broken the legal agreement it signed. Alternatively, if time is too short now the IOC can postpone the games for a year – they don’t have to cancel them. That is what George Takei mentioned in his National Post article.

  19. That There Other David 18 Aug 2013, 5:31pm

    Mr. Mutko can stick his welcome up his non-traditional backside. The intent of this law is to force Russian LGBTs to live in fear. Anyone who believes a word he says is an outright fool.

  20. Any one who believes this is an invented problem, would have to be deluded enough to believe that the Russian bigotry, the government and Putin are “Imaginary” friends of the LGBT people.

    Fortunately this is one invention no one is buying!

  21. “…is an “invented problem” by the media….”

    Countless petitions prove him wrong !

  22. Christopher Coleman 18 Aug 2013, 6:06pm

    Russia has such a long history of state oppression that the country might never become comfortable with free speech and free expression.

  23. Benjamin Bee 18 Aug 2013, 6:41pm

    Russians are right. They’re children are idiots and can be influenced, as you can see the idiot adults they became.

  24. I hope the IOC realise how Russia are just smirking and laughing at the olympic committee’s weakness and inability to do anything.

    Or perhaps the IOC are as bigoted as Russian politicians. I’ll never be able to watch the olympics again with any good will, its just bullshlt.

  25. Is the truth be known, the Russian government as never been the same since the fall of communism. Compounding this issue is that after years of steady population growth their population has now plateaued and even gone down a bit. In this is not surprising that they stupidly attack homosexuality without knowing anything about it. The government is desperate to regain the power it once had and this is the easiest way to get the ball rolling. The game is all about power and control.

  26. Of course the uproar against your new anti-gay law is an invented problem Minister Mutko – just like Apartheid in South Africa and segregation in 1950s USA was ‘an invented problem’ too.

    Now how about introducing a law that encourages discrimination and violence against all those with the family name Mutko. That would be immoral and unjust too.

  27. Your law which equals the promotion of homophobic attitudes throughout Russian society will destroy many gay people’s lives.
    When nothing positive is allowed to be said about gay people then only negative things will be said and gay people become demonised outcasts always at risk of unprovoked attack from others whether the attack is verbal, physical or both, their human right to live freely has been removed in Russia.
    It is a problem that has been invented by the Russian Orthodox Church and the State basing it’s legislation on religious-based prejudice instead of respecting the human rights of gay people to be an inclusive part of society like any others.
    Both your government and the Russian Orthodox Church are corrupt and repulsive human rights violators.

  28. https://www.facebook.com/brandedbysochi?fref=ts On this page is a link to a documentary about Putin.

    Putin is the personification of the KGB, he is creating a new Stalinist Russia with him as the reincarnation of Stalin. The Russian State is murderous, criminal, and has no law except that of the whims of the powerful elite who are crushing all opposition to them. The State religion and the fraudster who leads it are entirely KGB stooges. No right thinking decent person can believe that the Olympics are anything but a travesty of political public relations and big business, this is not about the medals this is about people being targeted by the State for extermination and that cannot be allowed to go unchallenged. Say NO to the Olympics in Russia and NO to anyone who would support them or attend them.

  29. The Olympic brand is trashed: it allows inequality.

  30. The need to protect children from knowledge of sexuality – that’s the invented bit.

  31. Russian politicians and Vladmir Putin (disgraceful bastard) should not be allowed in country where the support for LGBT citizens exist, they should not be allowed to enter at all. I just hope that the ones who support this vile law get what they deserve, and in my eyes in a bullet in the kiddle of their forehead. I know it may be aggressive, but this is nothing compared to what gay, lesbians and trans are suffering in that country. They deserve better, they deserve a normal life, not this disgusting treatment. Death to Putin

  32. Why does he remind me of a frustrated wannabe Stalin?

  33. Look at another disgusting NEW video gay teenager tortured by Russian homophobes http://youtu.be/UD7xY6agxAE
    https://vk.com/straights_for_equality?z=video13853869_166005282%2Fc676e516da9de79856

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