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Activist: Most Ugandans support anti-gay bill but the government is worried about losing aid

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  1. And they should worry.

  2. Oh dear! it’s all about the money… sick

    I have posted this link before, it is one of the most interesting interviews I have heard with a Ugandan LGBT Activist.

    It starts after a brief announcement.. click the listen button below his picture.

    http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/episode/2013/06/12/ugandan-gay-rights-frank-mugisha/

  3. Beelzeebub 14 Aug 2013, 8:23pm

    I distinctly remember the Rebecca Kadaga b!tch mouthing off that the West should not impose its culture on their country.

    And there she is standing in 19th and 20th century British legal garb.

    Hypocrite or what.

    1. And of course, happily taking Western money…

    2. Her actual comments are contained in the audio link I posted above.

  4. Cut off their aid. They contribute nothing to the world and are a huge welfare suck.

    1. Give government aid to LGBT groups instead.

  5. First Lady Mrs Museveni has been carefully groomed and is in the pocket of misguided extremist US evangelical Christians, she has been convinced by them that gay people are demonic and that they can be “transformed” and “normalised” through prayer and anti-gay legislation.
    Sadly religious superstition has more sway on the determinedly ignorant than does scientific knowledge about the facts of human sexual orientation.

  6. Re: Beelzeebub reference!

    So be it! I am all for keeping the aid!

    “I said I would not accept to be intimidated or directed by any government in the world because we are independent. We are Ugandans. We are not a colony of Canada. We’re not even a protectorate. (applause) If the price of aid is going to be promoting homosexuality in this country, I think we don’t want that aid. I don’t think we want it”.
    Rebecca Kadaga, the Speaker of Uganda’s parliament

    1. No.

      They are a backward country that has failed to get out of the 19th century British imperialist grip and its hierarchy abuses aid for its own self imposed hierarchies aggrandizement.

      Tough. Live in a desert. Then invent ways to live in the bloody thing. Stop taking from others.

      They do have brains don’t they. Nope., They steal from those who do.

      I’m sure some Grandmother freezing in a British flat is SO glad that swines like her are loaded at the expense of her dead husband having his taxes stolen to allow it.

      Get real. FFS.

      1. Beelzeebub…

        I am real… totally in agreement with what you said earlier and all for keeping our aid…I found the Rebecca Kaadaga quote alluded and posted it respectfully because it qualified your comment “where” she said about people could keep their aid, for the benefit of those who were unaware of her quote.

        Perhaps my mistake was it should have been posted as a reply.

        Hence I am all for us keeping our aid period.

  7. While I would say stop the aid, it is actually doing its job, the LGBT people would be living with the death law by now if it wasnt for the aid money stopping these vile pigs, despite all their posturing about not wanting it.

  8. Happy to take the money from the tax-payers of western nations, yet once they have it in their hands they refuse to become more civilised like western cultures and seem determined to forever behave like Neanderthals.

    Also, the article says that they are using that foreign aid to station troops in Somalia. Many tax-payers would strongly object to having their money spent on foreign armed forces. Should it not be spent on building schools and employing teachers to educate that nation? They obviously are in dire need of education. Even their Parliamentary Speaker is incredibly unintelligent.

    If we must give them money, then we should expect them to be at least civilised and to educate themselves.

  9. St Sebastian, the humanitarian 15 Aug 2013, 1:15am

    It’s always about the money!

  10. The way she described these laws as a “christmas gift” made me feel sick!

    The leaders of the world need to be showing them some studies on epigenetics, some facts and figures, and explaining they have a rather gross misunderstanding on their hands, not just cutting of aid and saying “change, or else!”,

    1. Yes, it so reeks of the Klan and a Southern US state saying they will re-introduce the random lynching of blacks as a Christmas present, it’s exactly that gratuitously cruel attitude.
      Rebecca Kadaga shows no signs of any feelings of human empathy, hard, cruel, cold and desperately stupid with it, but then she has been brainwashed into hate via anti-gay religious-based propaganda.

  11. Jock S. Trap 15 Aug 2013, 8:14am

    It’s a shame they need to make such hateful laws let alone be worried about losing aid.

    These countries may elect but most elections are suspicious and full of fraud. I worry that the wealth of the aid goes to the back pockets of politicians and not to the people that really need it.

    Time to scrap this nasty law and start to treat people equally and with respect.

  12. Oh! they don’t have ANY worries about taking the Tax paid by LGBT Taxpayers!

  13. She’s complaining that our aid money has strings attached? Don’t accept it then. The aid money is sent to benefit ALL Ugandans in need. If the government is oppressing people and denying them rights, then our aid is supporting that oppression and has to stop.

  14. Proves me right! I’ve said all along that a threat to someone’s income serves to focus their mind on the wisdom of their principles. Kick them in the pocket; they’ll soon re-think their morality. Freaking vile hypocrites …..

  15. ” Happy to take the money from the tax-payers of western nations, yet once they have it in their hands they refuse to become more civilised like western cultures and seem determined to forever behave like Neanderthals. ”

    On the one hand, you’re a moron, who hasn’t been better informed about Uganda since 2009. On the other hand, I can’t completely blame you, because 4 years on, the level of reporting about the issue is still abysmal, and driven by the aid industry.

    * The aid activist claims that ”
    Beware that you can be used to put pressure on a government over aid.

    * Can’t beat Victorian Values. The fact is that these anti-gay laws are on the books in Uganda (and Malawi, Kenya, Tanzania, Botswana, etc.) because they are former British colonies. You don’t get these laws in former French, German, Spanish or Italian colonies. The irony is that they tried to overregulate the private lives of the Ugandan people, because they had exactly the same superior attitude.

    * The laws on the criminal code are from the 1950s, when homosexuality was illegal in Britian.

    * However, since the 1990s, the same countries have constitutions that all have extensive anti-discrimination articles. I bet no one told you that in the 4 years since the ‘Kill The Gays Bill’ was introduced.

    * According to the Ugandan Constitution, Article 21, it is illegal to discriminate. I wonder whether the ‘Kill The Gays Bill’ is discriminatory in any way…

    * All that has to happen, is for someone to be convicted under this law, and appeal to the High Court. The aid industry has had 4 years to capitalize on this controversy. They’re not looking to see it end.

    * Countries like Uganda receive ‘donor aid’, so that they won’t tax their natural resources, which are exploited by transnational corporations. ‘Donor aid’ sounds like ‘charitable giving’, however it isn’t anything like it. It is a tool to compel compliance and subservience.

    Stop paying ‘donor aid’ anyway, if you can get your government to do so. (They’re going to get a lot of pushback, and not from African governments.)

  16. ” Happy to take the money from the tax-payers of western nations, yet once they have it in their hands they refuse to become more civilised like western cultures and seem determined to forever behave like Neanderthals. ”

    On the one hand, you’re uninformed unsurprisingly haven’t been better informed about Uganda since 2009. On the other hand, I can’t completely blame you, because 4 years on, the level of reporting about the issue is still abysmal, and driven by the aid industry.

    * The aid activist claims that “Mr Kibuuka added: ”the government didn’t want to lose out.” But he also warned that the majority of people in Uganda want the bill to pass… ” What survey is he referring to? Beware that you can be used to put pressure on a government over aid.

    * Can’t beat Victorian Values. The fact is that these anti-gay (more precisely all gender anti-‘unnatural acts’) laws are on the books in Uganda (and Malawi, Kenya, Tanzania, Botswana, etc.) because they are former British colonies. You don’t get these laws in former French, German, Spanish or Italian colonies. The irony is that they tried to overregulate the private lives of the Ugandan people, because they had exactly the same superior attitude toward ‘civilizing the natives’.

    * The laws on the criminal code are from the 1950s, when homosexuality was illegal in Britian itself.

    * However, since the 1990s, the same countries have constitutions that all have extensive anti-discrimination articles. I bet no one told you that in the 4 years since the ‘Kill The Gays Bill’ was introduced.

    * According to the Ugandan Constitution, Article 21, it is illegal to discriminate. I wonder whether the ‘Kill The Gays Bill’ is discriminatory in any way…

    * All that has to happen, is for someone to be convicted under this law, and appeal to the High Court. The aid industry has had 4 years to capitalize on this controversy. They’re not looking to see it end.

    * Countries like Uganda receive ‘donor aid’, so that they won’t tax their natural resources, which are exploited by transnational corporations. ‘Donor aid’ sounds like ‘charitable giving’, however it isn’t anything like it. It is a tool to compel compliance and subservience.

    Stop paying ‘donor aid’ anyway, if you can get your government to do so. (They’re going to get a lot of pushback, and not from African governments.)

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