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Olympic Committee member calls for Russia’s anti-gay laws to be respected

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  1. I wonder how he might feel if the laws were about black people rather than gay?

    1. Maybe he should be told to sit at the back of a bus – he obviously needs to have his memory refreshed.

      1. But Diack is from Senegal and so it’s extremely unlikely – unless he travelled to the southern US before the 1970s or South Africa during Apartheid – that he’d have any memory of any such thing.

        1. … and he’s never read a newspaper – or seen a documentary? If he’s THAT ignorant about the persecution suffered by his race, he certainly shouldn’t be making important decisions about where Olympic Games are held ….

          1. “His race”? Do you really think all black people are the same? It seems an incredibly patronising assumption to me. Not everyone in the world who’s not white sees themselves solely in relation to people of European extraction.

    2. And would you have protested and made as much noise if the laws where about black people and black LGBT communities? Injustice is injustice

  2. What short memories some people have …….

    1. “We must never just forget the centuries of disgraceful discrimination and persecution suffered by black people at the hands of powerful white nations ….. but we must respect Russia’s anti-gay laws”?

    2. What memories should Diack have had? I didn’t know black people were treated particularly badly in Senegal.

      1. So in other words, the terrible things that happened throughout history to other people regardless of race/religion/orientation should have no bearing on his conscience or outlook in the world because he was not part of that group and did not go through it? Obviously you’re trolling but, wow…..

        1. Wow indeed. It’s not what I meant at all, I was referring to the implication that he should have some sort of enhanced awareness, be part of a sort of collective memory, purely because he’s black – this sort of remark is never made about white men. Which seems to me a pretty racist assumption.

          1. Are you being deliberatley obtuse? A sizeable proportion of Africa (and by that I mean the black occupants) is HIGHLY homophobic due to the religious ‘laws’ originally introduced by white oppressors. Consequently, you would think they would be mindful of how hypocritical it is that they are (a) using those laws to persecute their own people and (b) they are denying their citizens the human rights they themselves were deprived of for centuries.

          2. It would help so much if you could avoid sweeping generalisations.

            Senegal is largely Muslim, and the French in the 19c didn’t criminalise homosexuality, so – again – I fail to see your point.

      2. PantoHorse 13 Aug 2013, 1:39pm

        He holds at least two international posts – how can you believe he’s not aware of how things are and how things have been in places other than Senegal? That’s a naive position to take at best.

        1. It is the implication that, however intelligent and aware, as a black man he should be doubly blameworthy for his ignorant views that I find objectionable. He’s even referred to as being part of a minority below – a minority where, exactly? Certainly not where he comes from. If the man’s an idiot, he’s an idiot: his colour has nothing to do with it.

          1. PantoHorse 13 Aug 2013, 3:02pm

            I agree – the colour of his skin has nothing to do with his display of outright idiocy. But to say that as a Senegalese man he would have no knowledge of how things have been, and how things are, for other people, whether or not they share his skin colour, is silly. To have attained the positions he has on an international stage he can’t have existed in a bubble.

          2. I never said he would have no knowledge, I just don’t see why he’s expected to have “memories” of persecution on the basis of his skin colour any more than, say, a white person with knowledge of 1930s German prejudice against Slavs, or 1990s violence against Bosnians, should. I think it’s always best to steer clear of racial generalisations, don’t you?

  3. Something can only command “respect” when it is deserving of respect.

    These laws do not.

    Grow a set and move the bl00dy games.

  4. Says everything you need to know about the money-grubbing creeps involved in international “sport”.

  5. GingerlyColors 13 Aug 2013, 11:03am

    Would he have called for Apartheid laws to be respected if for whatever reason the IOC granted the games to South Africa 25 years ago?

  6. Anyone notice that Lamine Diack is an anagram of ‘dick in a male’ ?

    1. Yes, I immediately saw that!!!…brilliant stuff rubisco.

  7. bobbleobble 13 Aug 2013, 11:08am

    Of course he doesn’t see a problem with them, he’s from Senegal, a country in which same sex sexual activity is punishable by up to five years in prison and a hefty fine. He’s hardly coming from a background of tolerance and acceptance of LGBT people now is he?

  8. This man is part of the problem.

    Im in shock esp given he is black and you would think that another minority group would be more tolerant

    1. However, he is from Senegal where black people are not a minority.

    2. Also Nathan, “SHOCK HORROR” there are black LGBT people too! just saying before this thread gets turned into a colour issue.

    1. how to trust the man?

  9. Cop out ! the IOC is a big fat coward, and they’re afraid to stand up for what is right.

    Bypass the laws, show solidarity, wear the blue and white sailor uniforms !

  10. Anyone notice that Lamine Diack is an anagram of ‘dick in a male’ and, almost, of ‘I’m anal dick’ – is this an oblique form of nominal determinism?

    (first attempt at posting some of this seems to have vanished – blocked?)

    1. Because it’s stupid!

  11. That There Other David 13 Aug 2013, 11:19am

    If there’s no problem whatsoever how does he explain all these senior world figures making noise about them? Does he believe we’re all just being troublemakers perchance?

    This guy needs a reality check. Mind you, he’s from Senegal so has probably been told his entire life that we’re evil anyway.

  12. This man is an absolute disgrace who should know better.

    He has been investigated for questionable cash payments, the findings of the IOC stated that “placed himself in a conflict of interest situation”

  13. Lynda Yilmaz 13 Aug 2013, 11:30am

    Yep – why are we surprised. He can hardly condemn Russia when Senegal has it’s own laws on homosexuality.

  14. Sounds like very good grounds for removal from the IOC, but I doubt that will ever happen considering the IOC doesn’t care anything about the safety of the gay athletes.

    1. Sister Mary Clarence 14 Aug 2013, 11:47am

      I agree – his comments bring the IOC into disrepute – how can we have any confidence if their intentions to uphold the Olympic charter?

  15. Easy to forget for some, huh?

    “First they came for the communists…” etc.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came

    Interesting how he can ignore his own IOC equality mission statement, so long as it’s just the gays being persecuted.

  16. Shock, homophobic old man from a homophobic country also agrees with a homophobic assault by another homophobic country!

    It’s so depressing that things haven’t moved on, and we’re in 2013, FFS!

    It’s becoming increasingly clear that the IOC says it stands for certain things, but chooses to conveniently ignore those things as and when it chooses. Just like politicians, and the religious.

    It’s yet another hypocrite group of racists, bigots, homophobes and despots, holding sport back, like FIFA and American sports. There are too many old and decrepit men clinging on to their 1950’s thinking.

  17. “we’re not going to be disturbed by political problems.”
    It is because of the Apartheid laws that the IOC banned South Africa from so much as attending numerous games, a most political response to a nation’s internal politics. And Arab nations such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar were threatened with a ban if they didn’t amend their politics and allow women to take part. And sure enough, the Arab countries attended 2012 with women athletes.
    Lamine Diack must be made to change his opinion and apologize, or be forced into making a public condemnation the IOC itself for the efforts it has made in the past to tackle the politics of racism and sexism.

  18. Just like the IOC said in 1935.

    NYT Nov. 6, 1935: Hitler to take down anti-semitic signs during Olympics, IOC blasts boycott movement as “lies”
    http://americablog.com/2013/08/hitler-olympics-russia-sochi-2014-gay.html

    We’re going to see the IOC being increasingly corrupt over the coming months – not sure how they will survive. They’ve already threatened to send any athletes who wear a gay pride pin or make any affirmative gay statement back home. They’re just a bunch of self-centered collaborators.

    The IOC should be disbanded and replaced with a new organisation, one which can uphold ethical standards – and no country which doesn’t also uphold those standards can host, OR compete. That would be a very powerful message to other countries.

    1. St Sebastian, the humanitarian 13 Aug 2013, 3:24pm

      Gulliver, it’s not about sport anymore, it’s all about the money. They should shut down the whole Olympic Games movement and start a new ethical and amateur event.

  19. Robert in S. Kensington 13 Aug 2013, 12:48pm

    Interesting that Senegal, a former French colony, criminalises homosexual sex in violation of the country’s laws and where hetero polygamy is legal and very common while opposing equal marriage.

  20. Lamine Diack is another one who’s got a lot of learning to do. And that’s a pity, given that as a black man he ought to have an inkling of what persecution feels like. As president of the IAAF he ought surely to be an educated man? He has heard of Nelson Mandela, has he not?

    1. Diack being black and his education are surely completely different things? Educated people will have sympathy for Mandela’s tribulations regardless of race. Senegal was under French control only for the first third of Diack’s life, for the remainder he has been part of a sovereign nation’s elite, so I’m not sure quite how much persecution he’s likely to have experienced.

      However, it certainly sounds as though he’s a corrupt sleazebag, as so many people involved with the IOC appear to be – but again, regardless of race.

      1. I’m sorry – but his race is COMPLETELY relevant to my original point – which was that the anti-gay laws he is happy to inflict on his own people are those introduced by The White Man. Without white missionaries and colonisers, Africa may have been a VERY different place. In my opinion, you would imagine he and his fellow religious homophpobes would just stop and think, “Should I be using silly religious White Man’s rules to hurt my own people … and am I being an arch-hypocrite for condoning repression of ANY kind when ‘my race’ suffered similar oppression for centuries?. That’s what I meant by ‘Short memory ……’

        1. I presume you’re aware that nearly 90% of Senegal is Muslim, but how do you know Diack is particularly religious? I’m keen to know how the French who, since Napoleon, didn’t criminalise homosexuality are responsible for its criminalisation in Senegal. And, above all, in what way is any of this relevant to his remarks in relation to the Winter Olympics in Russia? As far as I can see his “argument”, such as it is, was that the IOC should respect the host nation’s laws.

          1. Oh dear. This is becoming tiresome. I repeat: the anti-gay laws he is happy to inflict on his own and other people are those same ‘sins’ introduced TO AFRICA by The White Man. Surely, he cannot be so ignorant as not to know the history of Africa and the enslavement of blacks by whites? So, one would imagine that a reasonably intrelligent black person would question if they should be using the same silly religious rules, introduced into Africa (as a whole) by The White Man, to hurt and marginalise people. He should also ask if he is being an arch-hypocrite for condoning repression of ANY kind when ‘my race’ suffered similar oppression for centuries. And, as for ‘respecting the host nation’s laws’ …. I think he’d feel VERY differently if the laws were about mixed-race marriage or where blacks should sit on the bus.
            Any clearer for you now?

          2. Actually, it’s well beyond tiresome. (a) I wasn’t aware he’s a legislator: where did you find evidence of that? Please direct me to it. As far as I have been able to find out he’s a former champion athlete, now a businessman.

            (b) Are you seriously suggesting Islam, the majority religion in his country, was introduced to Africa by “The White Man”? You also seem curiously ignorant of the African churches that predate Western European Christianity by some decades or even centuries.

            (c) If he is well-read on African history he will obviously know about enslavement as it was practised in most parts of Africa (indeed the world) until fairly recently, eg till 1912 Ghana. He wouldn’t be so stupid as to imagine it was solely a black/white issue, as people prone to race-based generalisations do. I would suggest he feels no more prone to pan-African sentiment than a Swiss person feels responsible for European colonial expansion.

          3. he’d feel VERY differently if the laws were about mixed-race marriage or where blacks should sit on the bus.

            Here I am happy to agree with you 100%. But all it shows is that people are guided by self-interest. And it is certainly a shame that people so seldom have sympathy for others’ human rights – but, as we see in the US with so many black Americans, or with homophobic women, common experience of being discriminated against seldom results in fellow-feeling.

            It’s a serious mistake, however, to imagine that all black Africans have had the same experience as black Americans.

  21. Why don’t the IOC just get Mugabe to be their chairman.

  22. thelostdot 13 Aug 2013, 1:07pm

    Well let’s be clear then, if these games take place under these conditions I will forever regard the Olympic movement as a hostile movement, and something akin to the Nazi 1936 Olympics. the Olympics have a shameful record and seem to eb content to ridicule themselves. The Olympic movement, a symbol of intolerance, repression and persecution.

  23. Jock S. Trap 13 Aug 2013, 1:24pm

    Being that the Olympics are supposed to be based on openness and equality regardless of gender, race or orientation I think this man’s words are insulting and crass.

    Being that London 2012 went a step further in that some women from the Middle East competed for the first time why then take a massive step backwards.

    Now he has made the Olympics political, the one thing it was supposed to not be he has opened up anyone right to protest.

    Why is he even a member when he clearly goes against what the Olympics stands for?

    Disgusting man!

    1. PantoHorse 13 Aug 2013, 1:50pm

      I think the position people like him are taking is just dreadful. To say that no-one’s saying LGBT people can’t take part or go and watch utterly leaves out the fact that they must completely deny to themselves or anyone around them who they really are.

      Say I’m there with my wife as a spectator. Someone we’re supporting wins and we turn to one another and have a hug and a kiss – we’d be arrested, most likely. Say an athlete wins and then climbs the barriers to give his partner a hug and a kiss just like we saw countless straight athletes do last year? Again, they’d most likely be arrested.

      To say that LGBT people are fine to go, but must behave completely differently to every other person attending and competing just beggars belief. Have the likes of Cameron, the IOC et al. just not been able to grasp this fairly simple point?

  24. http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/august/18/newsid_3547000/3547872.stm

    1964: South Africa banned from Olympics
    South Africa has been barred from taking part in the 18th Olympic Games in Tokyo over its refusal to condemn apartheid.
    The International Olympic Committee (IOC) announced the decision in Lausanne, Switzerland, after South Africa failed to meet an ultimatum to comply with its demands by 16 August.
    The IOC originally withdrew South Africa’s invitation to Japan during the winter games in Innsbruck, Austria.
    It said the decision could be overturned only if South Africa renounced racial discrimination in sport and opposed the ban in its own country on competition between white and black athletes.
    ……

  25. “Russian law has to be respected”

    Apartheid should have been respected too….right, Mr. Di(a)ck ?!

  26. All institutions are like this, every single one. Respect is earned, and it is reserved for people, not things, and certainly not ideas.

  27. Peter John 13 Aug 2013, 3:18pm

    No discussion. Disgusting.

  28. Scott Larsen 13 Aug 2013, 3:36pm

    What’s missing in this story? Was he speaking for the IOC or his homophobic nation’s (and personal) views on GLBT.

  29. Kelvin Beer-Jones 13 Aug 2013, 6:21pm

    Perhaps those of us fortunate enough to live in countries that respect human rights should go to the games and demonstrate in solidarity with our Russian friends who are being victimised? We should tell the world that we are going too!

  30. He should be thrilled then if some country in the world introduces race laws calling for the murder of “inferior” black people. We should all “respect” such laws, right?

  31. Tell me Mr Lamine Diack, if these laws were aimed at black people would you be so bloody respectful of their hideous laws then?

  32. johnny33308 14 Aug 2013, 12:18am

    Ahhh…..words of wisdom from yet another African bigot, whose home country jails those evil homos! How did this person get on the IOC? Don’t they have some sort of standards? Basic human rights standards?

    1. Why is the FA World Cup 2022 being held in Qatar?

  33. When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle – Edmund Burke

  34. @Geek_Actual 14 Aug 2013, 11:15pm

    Look behind him at the Logo’s for the sponsers. Write to them and tell them you are boycotting their products until they publicly repudiate his statements!

  35. It’s obvious that this IOC member, has not seen a single video, of any LBGT person, getting the living crap beaten out of them? Not a single YouTube posting of those neo natzi idiots? Does not read the paper regarding the gay bashing in Russia? Puhleeze. Russia’s law is stupid and since Putin needs as much support from Russian’s as he can get, it’s ironic that now certain countries have fully woken up and can see how much of an A-hole he really is and is pushing Russia back into the stone age. Shame. I do hope to see more and more LBGT Russian’s defect and move to more countries were being an LGBT is OK and they won’t have to live in consent fear and can freely express their affections in public.

  36. QueeRevolutionary 20 Aug 2013, 4:46am

    Why is the president of the IAAF and a member of the IOC representing a country where #LGBT citizen are considered criminals when these competitions are supposed to be about human rights.

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