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Nigerian bishops: We’re against equal marriage but empathise with people who live with ‘homosexual tendencies’

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  1. GulliverUK 12 Aug 2013, 5:48pm

    Double-talk, to try to throw off the charges of bigotry.

    “We empathise with people who live with homosexual and gay tendencies and call on society not to discriminate against them.”

    No they don’t, if they didn’t want to see discrimination, they would propose legislation outlawing discrimination. If they are not ready for equal marriage I can understand that – equal rights starts with small steps, and right now most of us, and I’m guessing LGBT in Nigeria, would just like to be protected and left alone, and for the hate to stop.

    The hate came from the churches – they have an ethical obligation to try to stop it.

    I don’t buy their rhetoric for a moment, it’s not backed up by truth. If you don’t want discrimination, then help stop it by supporting anti-discrimination legislation. At the least the bishops should be thinking about proposing anti-discrimination, plus civil unions or domestic registration so people have the same rights as a married couple.

  2. They don’t want equality but they’re happy enough to accept my taxes as foreign aid. Perhaps gays should discriminate against them.

  3. “Tendencies” LOL

    To be honest, I empathize with people who have heterosexual “tendencies”, they so often appear very ill-educated and simple in mind.

    It is not a choice, it is normal and natural, the proof has been found. In truth the debate is over, but many still feel it is up for debate, why?

    1. Education. People like these bishops have grown up with usages like “tendencies”, and have in all probability never encountered the slightest challenge to their smug prejudices.

      1. I find it funny he pities me because of my “homosexual tendencies” because I only really tend to be homosexual when I’m having sex with men, and sympathizing with someone for having great sex is lunacy by definition ! I think “jealousy” would be a more fitting description.

  4. Why is there always a “BUT” in their line? “I love gays “but” they are…” Or “I think they should be treated equal ‘but’ not married”
    Marriage has everything built in, instead of asking for each item in the courts separately, for equality.

  5. This group of bishops saying that they “empathise” (though we all know they don’t really) and calling on society not to discriminate against gay people may appear to us as them being hypocritical, which is probably correct, but it actually the most positive thing said so far from any people of authority in Nigeria.

    It is hopefully the beginning of a period of improvement in the lives of LGBT Nigerians, who have suffered much bigotry from the Anglican church (and other religions) there. Religion dominates Nigeria. Church leaders have easily whipped-up anti-gay hatred in the past amongst the population, but as they have so much influence hopefully there will be many people there who will listen to these Bishops.

    We can be unconvinced by these Bishops but still be hopeful that their words have some positive effect. In a country where gay people are treated as having no place in society, hope can be all there is left for them to hold onto.

    1. There was NO christianity in Africa until it was introduced by white men. So, how ironic (and disgustingly hypocritical) is it that these people, who suffered centuries of oppression by white men are now using those white man laws to persecute their own people? With independence, they had the PERFECT opportunity to reject eveything white men had imposed on them. But no – they adopt religious rules which they’d never even had heard of had it not been for their white colonisers. Not very ‘progressive’ is it? As with Russia, it demonstrates how backward and ignorant these people really are ……

      1. Yes, it’s very hypocritical of them.

      2. There was NO christianity in Africa until it was introduced by white men.

        That’ll come as news to the Coptic Church in Egypt, the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church and the Eritrean Orthodox Church, which were established long before Western European Christianity and a millennium and a half before European colonisation.

  6. The proposed law in Nigeria would make it a criminal offence to have a romantic relationship with someone of the same sex, regardless of whether you have sex. It would be illegal to hold hands, to share a home, to kiss on the cheek.

    It would be a criminal offence not to report your family, friends and neighbours for being in a same-sex relationship.

    And it would be a criminal offence to enter into a same-sex marriage or CP overseas. Gay married expat Nigerians would be unable to return to Nigeria for a holiday.

    Is this what they call “empathy” and non-discrimination?

  7. I detest the overuse of trendy buzzwords, and empathy most of all: it’s all too glaringly obvious these bishops don’t feel empathy at all, signalled (as has been pointed out by Rod above) by the word “but”.

    It’d be a good deal better if they kept their sanctimonious witterings to themselves, and concentrated on their pastoral duties, rather than involving themselves in civil rights, since they’re evidently not concerned with progress.

  8. I empathise with people who have religious tendencies.

    1. Heh – but do you? I don’t! I have sympathy for them at best. However, even I wouldn’t suggest their tendencies should be outlawed.

      1. If people throughout the generations insisted on passing down a, i dunno let’s say 500 year old self-help manual that for some inexplicable reason, kept leading people to the conclusion that oppression, mass murder, blowing yourself up in the name of the central character, starting wars with countries over disagreements of the answer to the unanswerable questions, impossible riddles & delusional fantasies of the main plotline is a good way to live your life, it’s not be a very effective self help manual.

        People would stop calling it a self help manual eventually and call it for what it is; a pretty bad idea. Yes there are “some” people who it helps, but for most it just seems to make them even more scared and lost than they already were! & it’s meant to be a self-help manual

        Unless, the book made a LOT of money and its followers held massive influence of course, then maybe we could work something out.

  9. Why do we have to endure this constant patronising? Who ARE these self-appointed moral guardians? They put on a silly costume, spout childish rubbish about talking-snakes and do UNTOLD harm to our young people, causing hatred and bullying. Isn’t it time someone set up a religion that doesn’t judge … anyone?

    1. …or time to just disestablish religion, removing its political influence in law-making and education. People would still be free to practice their faith and attend places of worship, but religion wouldn’t be able to pollute society in a way that only serves its own interests.

  10. GingerlyColors 13 Aug 2013, 11:09am

    If these Nigerian bishops empathise with people who live with homosexual tendencies then they should call upon President Badluck Johnathan to at least decriminalize homosexuality in Nigeria and remove the risk people from being arrested for gay sex.
    Fat cat in Hell’s chance here!

  11. Lyuba Marchenko 15 Sep 2013, 12:48pm

    And I’m against idiotic self-righteous morons!

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