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US: Art gallery refuses to host gay wedding, citing ‘religious beliefs’ as the reason

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  1. Should she not be refusing all ceremonies and directing them to the nearest church citing her “religious beliefs”?

  2. Close em down.

    “I think you are a second class citizen because god says so. But everyone is being so hateful to me. Boo hoo!!!!”

  3. Ethel Clutterbuck 8 Aug 2013, 6:22pm

    My own personal viewpoint – please feel welcome to disagree – and largely irrelevant to the principle under discussion. I would never be seen dead (never mind wed) in a place which used the word “shoppe”.

    1. That There Other David 8 Aug 2013, 6:27pm

      LOL. Especially as in this case the sign really ought to say Blumengeschäft.

  4. That There Other David 8 Aug 2013, 6:23pm

    Not this nonsense again. These Christians sure do like keeping the courts busy.

  5. Mark Young 8 Aug 2013, 6:53pm

    I reckon they exhibit some brilliant art in that ‘gallery’. Or maybe not. They obviously don’t like Leonardo, Caravagio, Michelangelo, Warhol etc.

  6. spiritbody 8 Aug 2013, 6:55pm

    Its not difficult (well maybe it is for homophobes because they’re usually not very intelligent people), but if you run a business open to the public, you can not, by law, refuse service unless the person is directly threatening the livelihood of your business in some way. Refusal on grounds of you not liking who they choose to share their bed with for whatever reason, doesnt even come close to a good enough reason! Even if you 100% own it and 100% run it, doesnt give you licence to discriminate against the public. If you dont wanna serve gay people, black people, women, short people etc, close your business down and go do something else with your life

  7. “Gay rights supporters have noted that Odgaard is entitled to believe whatever she wishes, and the law does not prohibit that, but denying a service based on a couple’s sexual orientation breaches the state’s anti-discrimination law.” This is PRECISELY the point. Believe whatever silly childish ‘talking snake’ nonsense you want. Just don’t attempt to use that ‘belief’ as a licence to discriminate. The bible condones slavery. Are you hoping to buy a black servant as a consequence? Or burn any witches in your neighbourhood? Because the bible also commands you to do that too. So stop using the bible to support your bigotry, you hateful homphobe … and probable vile racist too.

  8. Robert in S. Kensington 8 Aug 2013, 7:40pm

    And if a gay restaurant or hotel owner refused to accommodate Odgaard because he idn’t much care for religious nutters, she’d be the first to scream discrimination.

  9. johnny33308 8 Aug 2013, 8:17pm

    Beliefs are all well and good, but they can NEVER EVER trump anyone else’s Human Rights! Period!

  10. James Orpin 8 Aug 2013, 9:31pm

    she has received “hateful, hurtful and threatening emails.”

    Threatening emails are totally unacceptable. Hateful and hurtful, well you reap what you sow.

  11. Dan Filson 8 Aug 2013, 10:14pm

    It’s quite simple As a business you can be a venue for marriages or not. Your choice. But if you so choose, you cannot discriminate. End of story. Get it?

  12. Thy neighbour 9 Aug 2013, 9:51am

    It’s sad that the owners can’t see that they are simply prejudiced, and just using religion as a peg to hang their hat on.

  13. If the emails are legitimately threatening then, by all means, contact law enforcement.

    Because here’s the crazy thing – The same laws apply to everyone, from their right to not feel threatened to our right to not face discrimination from those offering public accommodations. It really is that simple.

    And the magic-worshippers need to understand that – since the US by its Constitution cannot name a “State” religion – allowing faith/beliefs to trump the law opens a Pandora’s Box. Since neither faith nor belief can be tested, measured nor proven sincere anyone could assert faith in anything and demand exemption from law. Anyone with an ounce of common sense would realise that would lead to utter bloody legal carnage and why it would NEVER be allowed.

    But, by all means, let them hurt their business by repeating their bigotry and squandering a lot of money on a lawyer to fight a case they already lost.

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