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Obama cancels Moscow meeting with Putin citing anti-gay laws as one reason

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  1. Ahh, of course, as if any state leader in the world cared about gay rights, or in fact about any kind of human rights when it does not interest them. I wanted to believe that but it’s hard when the United States supports and allies itself with backwards countries like Saudi Arabia.

    1. We don’t have the same relationship with Saudi Arabia as we do with Russia, or used to.

      1. It is pointless mentioning any sort of rights to the Saudis. At least we have some hope of changing opinion in Russia.

        1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 8 Aug 2013, 11:53am

          Pointless ? Because there is money to earn- “I side with you, cause you give me political strategy and millions.”

          1. No, pointless because even women don’t have basic rights there yet. If we stopped buying their oil of course they would change right away.

            Yeah right!

    2. It was not so long ago that no American President would even have mentioned gay issues at all. For Obama to even mention this as a partial reason is actually a huge move forward in International relations. I am very impressed.

      He is not worried about re-election and the gay vote certainly won’t go to the next Republican contender. He didn’t need to say this.

  2. Brotherhood 8 Aug 2013, 3:42am

    This article is poorly written or what its trying to come across is misleading. In the U.S. all the News channels from FOX “conservative nuts” , msnbc and CNN always talk about Edward Snowdon and russia not giving him back to the U.S. to be prosecuted. This is a black cloud in Washington D.C., Im not trying to diminish the issue with russia and its gay rights issue but the bigger and biggest reason President Obama is not going to talk to Putin is because they gave Edward Snowdon asylum. It was a slap in the face. And i believe Obama should turn his back to Putin. This is about National Security. Not Gay rights. Not everything is about gay rights. And Felipe “comment above me” about that last part of your comment. All i have to say keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Duh.

    1. That There Other David 8 Aug 2013, 9:31am

      Snowden told the US people that the US government has been illegally spying on them, something the US constitution specifically forbids. As per usual though the US government overreacts because it has been caught with its trousers around its ankles and hates people seeing just how corrupt the apparatus has become. If they hadn’t pursued Snowden for being a whistleblower (and NOT a traitor, the people in power in the US are the traitors) then he would never have been in Russia in the first place.

      But yeah, Obama’s actions are nothing to do with Russia’s attitudes towards LGBTs. To suggest so is twisting the truth to the extreme.

      1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 8 Aug 2013, 12:10pm

        Agree with you, That There Other David !

      2. Michael Anthony 8 Aug 2013, 3:33pm

        Snowden is a hypocrite. If you listen to what he says are the reasons for doing what he did, then why did he run into Russia’s arms? That country actively engages in the very things he railed against the US for! And just like Manning, another pawn for Asdange.

        Obama’s comments come at the same time as comments about Snowden. If he really only wanted Snowden, he wouldn’t say anything about gays. That only makes Putin angrier. Obama deserves praise. Try attacking those leaders who haven’t said a thing!!

        1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 8 Aug 2013, 4:29pm

          Russia and USA spy on eachother. That is for sure. And they have always done so. Personally I don’t doubt that Obama is gay friendly himself. So is his wife. And so was Hillary Clinton and many other top politicans.Both countries try to get the most of info. from Snowden. Now Russia will twist him as a leamon.- make him telling absolutely everything he knows. USA would have done the very same if they had a “Russian Snowden”- But the top political persons in both these major countries always make “GAY RIGHTS” a part of their own POLITICAL STRATEGY ! A part of their internal affairs–not a part of their foreign policy. Do I smell some hypocrisy here ?

  3. u.s administration cited russia’s poor human rights record as one of the reasons why obama wont be meting putin face to face. nothing explicitly about gay rights. this article is interpreting rather then presenting the facts

  4. Helge Vladimir Tiller 8 Aug 2013, 7:18am

    Obama- DO NOT USE US ! I very much appreciate nice and sincerely ment words and support for LGBTQ people ! And you have uttered such words in some connections ! Thank You ! But do not use us to balance the weight in “all” possible and impossible ways. What about all those Islamic countries where gays and lesbians suffer a hundred times more than in Russia ? Your allies ! And other east- European countries !

    1. Don’t be silly. We need political leaders to make supportive statements about GLBT rights. Obama has done this repeatedly. He can’t do everything at once. Taking on Islam’s homophobia is a different matter. Putin’s position is political. Stop criticising those who are on are on our side.

      1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 8 Aug 2013, 11:47am

        He should also fight the religious fascism in USA ! ( Mid west— ) They really hate gay people- and they even call the British Queen an enemy of God, The Queen of fags. Obamas position is political as well !!

      2. Helge Vladimir Tiller 8 Aug 2013, 11:56am

        Gay Rights are worth fighting for everywhere–in all countries -

  5. The Roman Catholic lobby at the BBC seems a lot more powerful than the gay lobby in the Vatican, seemingly….

    1. Spot on. I also see the amount of religious content at the BBC increasing by stealth.

      The number of programmes on TV and radio that are ostensibly about something unrelated to religion suddenly turning into a religious propaganda show is definitely increasing. This cannot be accidental. For example the programme about a world cruise on at the moment, which is actually about a priest on a world cruise.

  6. They mention it in this article at least: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/23608052

    “The decision to cancel the US-Russia summit comes the day after Mr Obama appeared on an evening chat show, The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, in which he condemned a newly enacted anti-gay law in Russia.

    “I have no patience for countries that try to treat gays or lesbians or transgender persons in ways that intimidate them or are harmful to them,” Mr Obama said.”

  7. The article at this link has the complete text of the official statement from the Administration. Nothing specific about the anti-gay laws in Russia.

    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/obama-canceled-russia-meeting-in-part-over-putins-war-on-gays/politics/2013/08/07/72653

  8. Mumbo Jumbo 8 Aug 2013, 9:29am

    Despite the fact that it was number four in the most read articles list, the Fry article was not one of the featured stories on the BBC website – just one of those buried in the list underneath.

    1. The bbc still did`nt mention any thing of the increase in homophobic attacks in Russia,something Mr Fry was making a good point on,in fact,have the beeb actually mentioned any news of those attacks in Russia?i think not.

  9. And perhaps Putin has no desire to see you either, Obarmy, since you adopted Stasi-like spying methods and developed a tyrannical side to your character that would make even Cold War Russia blush:-

    a) spying on our emails, web histories and telephone calls,

    b) sanctioning of the NSA global control grid,

    c) indiscriminate drone strikes on innocent families and civilians in Pakistan,

    d) torture and incarceration of whistleblowers who expose your many tyrannical wrongdoings,

    e) extraordinary rendition,

    f) thug-like militarisation of your police force,

    g) domestic murder policy now targeting journalists and computer hackers,

    h) backtracking on the closure of Guantanemo Bay…

    And on and on…

    Obarmy, your rank hypocrisy stinks to the highest heaven.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 8 Aug 2013, 1:21pm

      Look where it all started with George Bush II introducing the Department of Homeland Security and Guantanamo. Obama wasn’t responsible for that and he was one of the few politicians who opposed the Iraq war.

  10. The BBC has become a farce. In all their reporting of the Snowden affair (something they seem reluctant to discuss unless forced into it through public pressure) they completely ignore the revelations about GCHQ.

    In the last couple of months they’ve been caught deliberately misleading readers with nonsense reports on economic growth, using warped statistics and using misleading headlines to put a positive spin on the economy.

    And lets not forget that the BBC has been increasingly reporting on the opinions of religious leaders on various issues, as though their Christian views are any more important than those of anyone else.

    There’s even a suggestion the the programming is becoming propaganda driven, with a really bizarre show “promoting British culture”, and a segment on Top Gear ranting and raving about the “British motor industry” that included hundreds of random British vehicles lined up along the parade outside Buckingham Palace.

    It all reeks of nationalist propaganda to me.

    1. The BBC has been propaganda machine for a very, very long time. The biased reporting, cleansing of truth, validation of lies is undeniable. The reporting of 9/11, 7/7, the War on Terror, Immigration, Islam, Lower-Class, Gang and Youth Culture, Religion, Sexuality and LGBT issues is extremley questionable. It’s used for pure entertainment and pure profit. It’s no longer honest. It buries the truth to protect the people. It fills your head with fear, paranoia and hate.

      Although in many ways it’s always been propaganda, although never has it been so fake !

      It’s peoples own fault for spending so much time staring at the damn box,
      and swallowing everything up without question, regardless of your place in the world.

      Question everything

      Mr. Pink

  11. This has nothing to do with gay rights in Russia. Obama has learned to say what people want to hear, that’s how he was elected.
    Just look at all the bullsh*t he promised before election, and see how much of it he’s actually done.

    He’s a politician, he knows what the public opinion is when it comes to his leadership and America around the world.

    And for those who don’t know, plenty in these agencies have tried to report corruption and criminality through appropriate channels without resorting to leaking, as Obama promised to protect whistle blowers. But in reality, Obama has attacked and punished more whistle blowers than all previous admins combined.

    THAT is why people are leaking this info, and that is why there is a group within the CIA wishing to come forward about Benghazi but terrified to do so. That will have to be leaked too.

    Obama is a hypocrite using this to get people on-side.

    1. For starters he saved the auto industry in Michigan saving thousands of jobs – soemthing the Reps wanted to do away with.

  12. Make no mistake – this will be about Snowden. However, Obama could have easily blamed it entirely on snowden and not mentioned the LGBT issue at all. Maybe he cited the LGBT issue as a scapegoat to distract from his relentless persual of a politcal prisoner, to act as a buffer.

    Wether he’s citing the LGBT issue for politcal gain or for genuine concern remains to be seen I suppose, but his persual of Snowden as a “traitor” is a barefaced sham let’s be honest.

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