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Amsterdam Pride marchers: ‘Gay Pride for Russia’

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  1. It’s a shame that most pride marches are just shows of promiscuity and self-indulgence, though.

    1. No it isn’t a shame. pride is the one day people can come out of the wood work and say ‘hi! we exist!’ and to mark the anniversary of the stone wall riots. We’re allowed one day to be ‘promiscuous’ and ‘self-indulgent’ without in the open, not behind closed doors or confined to our ‘gay zone’ without fear, guilt, or shame. One freakin day! Gay pride is one day, straight pride is 364 days. If you think Pride is unecessary or damaging to your personal reputation as an LGBT person then I don’t think you know your history well enough !

      1. ‘… If you think Pride is unecessary or damaging to your personal reputation as an LGBT person then I don’t think you know your history well enough !…’

        i think he is criticising the format not the concept

        1. “format”? as in gay people daring to have the audacity to be as gay as they like for one day? “OH LAWD THERE ARE MEN KISSING IN THE STREETS AND NOBODY HAS ANY CLOTHES ON! STRAIGHT PEOPLE NEVER DO SUCH DISGUSTING THINGS IN PUBLIC AT ALL…..” god forbid we have 1 day to do whatever the hell we like without fear, shame, or embarassment.

          Mr. PInk

          1. No – it’s the fact that the marches imply that “this is what gay means”. It means sex, it means nudity, it means that if concerned children are worried their parents will react then they will first have to explain that not all gay people are like that.

            Pride marches are important – both symbolically and historically. But instead of promoting achievement further (by expressing solidarity with oppressed people in other countries) they have come to reject the diversity that early pride marches sought to establish.

            Be self-indulgent – gay, straight, bi, whatever. Don’t tell me, though, that you’re dong it BECAUSE you’re gay, straight, or bi. That’s degrading and insulting.

          2. Mark – you’re acting as if someone will go to gay pride and base their entire opinion of the entire gay population on what they see there, which some people probably do, but they would be idiots to begin with because anyone who bases their whole opinion of the LGBT community by what they see at a Pride parade is probably not the sharpest tool in the box. I think you need to give people more credit. Most people know that “gay” doesnt mean sex or nudity, Pride is a whole other thing.

            Mr. Pink

    2. Colin (London) 4 Aug 2013, 11:52am

      Having taken my 18 year old gay niece to her first london pride march I swear she grew 2 inches in front of me. Thank you to all who organised it and the photographers. The recognition that so many of us exist and to see, feel and be part of the march was awesome yet again to me.

      It is and will remain an important part of our society. We are a significant minority and all should be treated equally. We are not there yet. Many still struggle especially if you live in the sticks.

      1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 4 Aug 2013, 1:44pm

        Beautiful Colin (London ) ! Your comment went straight to my mind -and my wet eyes. Here I’m in Stockholm celebrating Pride. Very huge and brilliant ! A real success. I do think thousands feel like you ! A Varm hug to your niece- a beautiful life to you booth. MANY PLACARDS for Russia here too. Love from Helge -Oslo, Norway-

      2. Helge Vladimir Tiller 4 Aug 2013, 1:51pm

        Sorry, I’m a bit tired : WARM-of course !
        And BOTH OF YOU !
        And still more LOVE to you !

        1. Colin (London) 5 Aug 2013, 9:34am

          Dear Helge
          Thank you for your comment. It is lovely. I hope you had a wonderful time at Pride in Stockholm.
          Love to you and your friends
          Colin X

    3. It is tremendously empowering to go to a Pride /Gala /carnival /festival to meet new people to interact with different groups from a wider area. These events are not just a parade anymore, but run over a few days and bring the community together.
      Why do you think these countries that want to ban Gay Pride do it other than to negate our visibility and to intimidate, to stop that empowering effect of freedom of expression and association, to stop the dissent at on-going persecution and pervasive discrimination. The Russian government know if we were all open and visible the Russian people would begin to have a sense of outrage at actions of the fascists, this is why visibility is so important and the rights of equality to freedom of expression and assembly is so important.
      After the insidious persecution (yes, Persecution) and discrimination we have suffered for generations a bit of self indulgence is more than justified and a celebration or carnival once a year the minimum we need.

    4. Daniel Furii 4 Aug 2013, 1:01pm

      YOU NEED TO GET OUT MORE

    5. Diversity. That’s what we saw in the canals in Amsterdam.
      Diversity is what makes our society.

  2. your intellectual deficiency is striking, you mixing two different concepts and trying to make connection there. the whole issue is not about consenting adults, its about ones sexuality versus ones sexual activity. unlike the former the latter is a choice. therefore it is not hypocritical not to accommodate our choices with regards to our sexual activities

  3. so, tell me little Einstein, why gay people in russia cant legally hold hands in public?

    1. Commander Thor 4 Aug 2013, 1:34pm

      We wouldn’t lock them up or torture them – that’s the difference between a civilised society and a dictatorship. In a civilised society, they are allowed to campaign.

      But I guess that doesn’t make any sense to you…go sniff some poop.

    2. for your benefit lets get some perspective here, again, as i already explained under your previous post, you are confusing sexuality with sexual activity. i will try to explain it slowly and clearly to accommodate your glaring intellectual deficiency.
      human sexuality is a natural characteristic of human nature and therefore cannot be called perverted, however sexual activity regardless of ones sexuality can be seen as such, that usually depends on how socially conservative you are.
      therefore the degree of perversion of holding hands shouldn’t be based on criteria like sexuality of those holding the hands, either it is perverted full stop or not. same goes for sc@t, bondage, incest etc.

      1. your assertion is not supported by facts

      2. “It can be called perverted as it is a deviation from nature/biology.”

        Try telling that to the 2000 species of animal that can be homosexual and have been since the dawn of time.

        Mr. Pink

  4. Commander Thor 4 Aug 2013, 10:41am

    We wouldn’t lock them up or torture them – that’s the difference between a civilised society and a dictatorship. In a civilised society, they are allowed to campaign.

    But I guess that doesn’t make any sense to you…go sniff some poop.

  5. Commander Thor 4 Aug 2013, 10:42am

    We wouldn’t lock them up or torture them – that’s the difference between a civilised society and a dictatorship. In a civilised society, they are allowed to campaign.

    But I guess that doesn’t make any sense to you…go sniff some poop.

  6. Daniel Fuii 4 Aug 2013, 1:00pm

    AMEN! HAPPY PEOPLE ARE GETTING INVOVLED!

  7. Commander Thor 4 Aug 2013, 1:34pm

    We wouldn’t lock them up or torture them – that’s the difference between a civilised society and a dictatorship. In a civilised society, they are allowed to campaign.

    But I guess that doesn’t make any sense to you…go sniff some poop.

    1. billions believe that eating pork is perverted, should we therefore criminalize those engaging in public displays of eating bacon sandwiches

      im having some much fun playing with you stupidity

      1. You’re wasting your time. I think he’s a just a spambot who just copies and pastes the same obsessive irrelivent rant about incest and beastiality while consistantly ignoring any and every point of view that proves him wrong or highlights how ignorant and stupid he is.

        Either that or he’s just a very sad individual with deep-seated issues and nothing better to do.

        It’s best to just vote him down and ignore him, he doesn’t seem to have to ability to debate or converse like a normal person.

        Vote down, ignore, move on. Attention seekers live off attention, if you take the attention away they shrivel and die like the sad little organisms they are. DO NOT REPLY, you’re wasting your time with this one.

        Mr. Pink

  8. Beelzeebub 4 Aug 2013, 4:03pm

    I would love Pride with a format whereby everyone should the world just who they are.

    A parade of people dressed as the medical professionals that they are.

    A parade of people dressed as the firemen that they are.

    A parade of people dressed as the police that they are.

    A parade of people dressed as the IT professionals that they are.

    And within all that there is still room for all the hedonistic displays.

    Loud, proud and winning the argument.

    PS: Keith. Please attain a horrific illness.

    The planet will be better off without you.

    1. Beelzeebub 4 Aug 2013, 6:03pm

      Please die a horrific painful death.

      I know love.

      You clearly do not.

    2. Lakonislate 6 Aug 2013, 1:15pm

      I just want to point out that there was a boat in the parade with gay police, in uniform. Also the armed forces (with the defence minister), although there was some discussion in previous years about whether they would be allowed to wear their uniforms.

  9. Christopher Coleman 4 Aug 2013, 6:24pm

    I am an only child. I do not want a relationship involving numerous women. The Russia you praise has nothing to offer me.

    Autocratic, oppressive governments and societies lack the charm that would tempt me to visit them or spend my money on them or anything they produce. I have spent a very long life without feeling the need to visit such countries or to develop any sympathy for their attitudes, laws, and policies. Staying away from such places is no deprivation.

    There is no need for me to boycott vodka, as I have very rarely drunk it. English gin for me every time. I also have a policy of telling bartenders, waiters and restauranteurs at every available opportunity that there is no such thing as a vodka martini. A martini demands gin and vermouth. The colour and quantity of vermouth determines whether the martini is sweet, extra dry, or somewhere in between. Any ingredient other than these and it is not a martini. Ever.

  10. Christopher Coleman 4 Aug 2013, 6:50pm

    Dear Keith the eventual winner:

    You write that homosexuality “can be called perverted as it is a deviation from nature/biology”.

    There are many deviations in nature. One of my camellias produces white flowers. However, every season it will also produce two or three dark pink flowers. Should I call these deviations from the norm perversions and remove them from the bush?

    Transgendered people are born with a range of sexual variants. This is nature in action. These are variations, not perversions.

    You make the common error of taking what is usual (the majority) for the only possibility. Regarding humanity, we tend to reject what is not like us. There are still people around who consider others with a different coloured skin to be an inferior form of humanity. For many years America’s natives were considered to be another species. The pope eventually declared them to be human beings. Differences make us uncomfortable. The problem is ours.

  11. Thanks from all russian LGBT people

  12. Beelzeebub 5 Aug 2013, 7:25am

    Dear PN.

    Please get this f\/cker Keith out of here.

    I have copied and pasted these forums comments to the marketing departments of your gay friendly advertisers as splashed all over these pages.

    Lets see what they think of your moderation policy in allowing their consumer base to be denigrated in this way.

    1. Dude, think about what kind of guy he must be in real life. He is probably a very sad, lonely and mentally deranged indiviudal. I feel nothing but pity for him, and find his posts amusing. If he wants to waste his life fighting love with hate then let him do so because as I always say

      Love Conquers Hate
      Always has, always will
      Do not feed the trolls

      Mr. Pink

      1. And he’s probaby been pumped with religious propaganda from an early age and heavily indoctrinated, there’s very little you can do to change his mind. Let him live his sad little life and let him think he’s winning a war on perversion and let him think he’ll be greeted at the marble gates of heaven with thanks from the big G himself for his holy crusade…. because we all know that when he draws his last breath it would have all been for nothing, his last breath will be his last, there will be no heaven, he will rot like the rest of us and become nothing. He will join us in eternal darkness. That’s what’s really sad, such a waste of life ! To spend your whole life following such crap and then it doesn’t even turn out to be true.

        Worst life insurance EVER !

        Mr. Pink

  13. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals

    It’s pretty much Science Vs. You

    I think I’m gonna go with science…

    Mr. Pink

    1. Colin (London) 5 Aug 2013, 9:39am

      There are gay animals and gay plants and always have been. Science

  14. Barry William Teske 5 Aug 2013, 9:28am

    @ Keith, the eventual winner…not!
    In your self righteous angst you broke every rule you stated in your posts that you proclaim all who are not you should obey. So I say unto you:
    ” People who concern themselves with the rights of other adults who engage in consensual acts involving sex, love, and/or eating croissants together are damaged and in pain. ” Rob Delaney

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