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Gay US soldiers demoted for use of Craigslist

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  1. “He was caught whilst trying to have a casual encounter with an undercover male Naval Criminal Investigation Service Officer.”

    This needs to be called what it is – entrapment.

    I’d like the military to spend less time tracking down and punishing consensual sex between soldiers and do something about the rapes that are occurring and getting swept under the rug.

    1. But rape is character building according to the US Army.

      Seriously – there is a report online of a US Congressman saying that military rape should be expected due to the environment…!

      Fckwits.

    2. CaptainScorpio 1 Aug 2013, 10:20pm

      Is entrapment a thing in the military court? (I have no idea, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s not.)

  2. Colin (London) 31 Jul 2013, 7:38pm

    For goodness sake leave them alone. Yes entrapment indeed. All they want is some good mates they can also be intimate with.

    Then hopefully thing blossom….Meeting others should be encouraged for good mental state

    Sometimes USA you are so childish.

    1. Colin (London) 31 Jul 2013, 7:39pm

      Straight guys do the same thing by the way!

      1. I thought the article was about “straight” guys.

  3. What can I say… yet another example of the US army going over the top about nothing. If they’d put as much effort into ending the conflict in the Afghanistan as they do at persecuting gay officers and Bradley Manning, the war would have been won a long time ago.

  4. Are they idiots? This was a known issue with HETEROSEXUAL soldiers in wartime for centuries! It was taken as a given that straight soldiers would use prostitutes, engage in affairs with local women (leading to legal acknowledgement of “war brides”) and similarly seek out sex.

    Once again, gays are expected to have better behavior than straights ever have.

  5. Dan Filson 1 Aug 2013, 12:22am

    “According to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, soldiers are barred from having sex with anyone except their spouse when deployed to a combat zone.” This must be one of most unenforceable military regulations in history. You cannot stop soldiers seeking sex whatever their orientation,

    1. Mark Cross 1 Aug 2013, 4:05pm

      For example, “Hot Lips Houlihan”…

  6. Dan Filson 1 Aug 2013, 12:25am

    “According to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, soldiers are barred from having sex with anyone except their spouse when deployed to a combat zone.” Possibly one of the most unenforceable stupid military regulations in history. – you cannot expect lusty young soldiers seeking sex, whatever their orientation. And to only penalise the gay ones is discriminatory. Not all states recognise equal marriage so a spouse only rule is unreal.

    1. To be fair, any couple can marry in an equality state without a residency requirement and the military will recognize their marriage. Newly engaged marines Russ and Matt – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB3Mpk_tPSA – are from non-equality states (Indiana and Ohio) and currently stationed in non-equality North Carolina, but they’ll be married as far as the USMC is concerned once they tie the knot in Iowa or wherever. There will still be confusion and drama over how all the various other tentacles of the federal government treat couples in their situtation, but for the purposes of the military’s rules and regs, even somewhat stupid and unenforceable ones like this, they’ll be married.

  7. This has been going on a long time. Even under DADT guys stationed in Iraq were posting m4m hookup ads by the hundreds despite the military’s best efforts to block the sites. And it wasn’t just hookups – I’ve seen dozens of solo/duo pics of soldiers taken in and around the Radwaniyah palace complex in 2005/6, including some particularly amusing ones of guys getting boned up in one of Saddam’s gaudy bathtubs.

    As far as I can tell, the military’s response to stuff like this has been more or less the same as their response to service members doing gay porn stateside. That is, they mostly turn a blind eye to it unless it risks becoming a public embarrassment or they discover other illegal activities involved, like illicit drug use in the case of the paratroopers from the 82nd airborne who got busted for doing gay porn a few years back. They make a half-hearted attempt to crack down on it and then promptly go back to pretending it doesn’t exist.

  8. I can feel a big campaign coming.. Please let’s help the poor hot soldiers hook up without repercussions

  9. Jock S. Trap 1 Aug 2013, 12:10pm

    What absolute nonsense. Everyone has ‘needs’ and who cares how they get it, so long as of course, it’s between consenting adults!

    Seems like the dinosaurs are still at the top.

    1. Mark Cross 1 Aug 2013, 4:07pm

      And I’m sure there’s no hypocrisy in the ranks of those dinosaurs, either…

  10. Jock S. Trap 1 Aug 2013, 12:11pm

    Have to add thought it’s typical of the Daily Mail to run this story in the negative.

  11. They say sex is off the table for everyone but I bet they wouldn’t even dream of suggesting a heterosexual solider remain celibate. it’s the ARMY for gods sake.

    Sort it out USA, these things are making you look so, so stupid.

    Mr. Pink

  12. I actually agree with the disciplinary actions.

    Being in the armed forces means adhering to a certain standard of conduct, when you have the honour to wear the uniform you are representing the military and its image, and posting pictures of your penis on popular websites and publicly advertising for hook-ups whilst on duty is unacceptable behaviour.

    Do serving soldiers need relief, yes, should a certain amount of blind eye be taken, yes (and certainly both gay and straight soldiers do get away with some “fun”), but there is a line they should not cross, let alone when in the middle of a campaign where good discipline is what saves lives.

  13. It’s rather telling that it’s the Daily Mail that’s reported this story – not particularly sympathetically, I’d guess.

  14. CaptainScorpio 1 Aug 2013, 10:19pm

    “A retired US Army psychiatrists noted the potential reasons behind why soldiers would take risks whilst in a combat zone, in order to have such encounters.”

    I’m glad they had a psychiatrist available to explain the inconceivability of men having risky sexual encounters. Because combat is very different from, like, EVERY OTHER situation in which they do that, like cheating in marriage, or being in/running for high office…

  15. Gay Activist Paul Mitchell 2 Aug 2013, 3:27pm

    DADT has been repealed 2 years ago – but an outdated and stupid ban on all sodomy since 1929 still remains!!!!

    See Article 125 of the United States Military Justice Code USMJC and clearly see what it actually says please before you jump the gun.

    Sorry it is called the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ)

    The quote is the following:
    “ARTICLE. 125. [US Military Law]”

    “(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration , however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.”

    “(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

    By the way the usual yearly US Congress Defence Authorisations Bills (laws that has to pass by Congress every year to give funds to the US Military) actually has Article 125 repealed – but the problem is this provision in the bill (usually buried in 780 pages) is never include

  16. Gay activist Paul Mitchell 2 Aug 2013, 3:31pm

    [continued]

    It in the bill because -you guessed it the Republicans control the House of Representatives!!!!!

    By the way 10 years go all bans on gay sex or heterosexual oral and anal sex was declared unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court!!!!!!!

    [Lawrence v. Texas case back in 2003]

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