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  1. Robert in S. Kensington 27 Jul 2013, 2:40pm

    We need to see it in writing, please? Verbal assurances to the IOC mean nothing.

    1. thelostdot 27 Jul 2013, 6:57pm

      They can boycott South Africa for Aparteid, but not Russia for Homophobia. What does that say to you?

      1. “The International Olympic Committee is clear that sport is a human right and should be available to all regardless of race, sex or sexual orientation.”

        So sport is a human right but your everyday life isn’t? This all sounds a bit desperate. Trying to derail any boycott before it gains momentum.

      2. Agnes McKay 1 Aug 2013, 8:29am

        “What does that say to you?”

        It says apples and oranges.

        In the two countries the oppression was/is different, mainly in its scale. In one country the majority was oppressed by a much smaller minority, while in the other a very small minority is being oppressed by a government who think that they are acting for the majority. Another difference is that in one country the oppression was racial while in the other it is sexual. I think that as a whole, the world cares more about racial rather than sexual oppression.

    2. Not so fast comrade! Vitaly Milanov, co-sponsor of the anti-gay propaganda bill has said that the Russian gov’t cannot selectively refrain from enforcing the law during the Sochi Olympics:

      http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2013/07/russia-co-sponsor-of-anti-gay-bill-says.html#disqus_thread

    3. Or the right is equal, or is not right. That goes for everyone.

  2. With all due respect, such an assurance is not a reason to not boycott the games. The problem is not how tourists and athletes will be treated for 3 weeks but how the population of LGTB Russians will be treated in the long run. Just not good enough.

    1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 27 Jul 2013, 7:54pm

      Yes. Yes, Yes Jan !

  3. justusboyz 27 Jul 2013, 2:53pm

    W A something K as my school teacher used to say.
    They shouldnt have the Games full stop.

  4. “As a sporting organization, what we can do is to continue to work to ensure that the Games can take place without discrimination against athletes, officials, spectators and the media.”

    And screw the real human beings affected so long as we get our sport? Disgusting

  5. I’m gay from Russia and I will boycott those Putin’s games.

    1. Молодец! :)

      1. любить и поддерживать к вам от London.Will вместе с вами против фашистской Путина. х

      2. Единственные люди, которые навредит бойкот – это спортсмены. Ни один Путин при этом не пострадает. Но вы, конечно, будете при этом страшно гордиться тем, что что-то сделали для защиты прав LGBT.

        Уж лучше бойкотируйте водку – пользы намного больше.

        1. Roughly translated the last comment is that it would be better to boycott Russian Vodka than to boycott the Games as Putin would be more affected. I tend to disagree and think the boycotts of BOTH would be most effective.

          Hitting Putin where it hurts – in the wallet will come through boycotts of Russian vodka/goods. Companies will put pressure on him to backtrack, or will look to disengage themselves from Russia. Either way he’s for trouble.

          The Olympics is of another scale. It’s a world stage and to ‘fail’ means you have monumentally f*cked up in the full glare of the world’s media. The prizes for holding a successful games are huge, but hold a games where half the world is missing and you look like an idiot. Moreover, the forensic dissecting of why nations boycotted shines a light onto the whole issue of state sponsored homophobia, which can only be good. Mass boycotts in 1980 and 2014 will begin to look like Russia can’t be trusted with the games.

  6. Will you get a special “gay permit” with your tickets, do you suppose? An will the police accept it? What if you forgot your permit?

    If two people are kissing will they both need a permit, or does it cover a plus one?

    1. You’ll get an armband with a pink triangle

  7. Har Davids 27 Jul 2013, 3:06pm

    Sounds like Nazi Germany being less obviously anti-Semitic during their Olympic Games.

    1. I was just about to write the same thing but you beat me to it. This law is very chilling, what next concentration camps for GLBT people? Or has that already begun? GAS chambers in the future, just for purity’s sake of course. I’m not watching the games or buying stuff that advertises the games. This might not move the Russians but at least I’m not contributing to their homophobic hysteria.

  8. What so we’re supposed to not boycott because they’ll have a brief moratorium on their persecution for select groups?

    Really? Bloody IOC, it’s not about your precious even being disrupted so we can’t watch people play in the snow. It’s about refusing to support a country that will commit these atrocities

    1. Sadly the IOC like FIFA and other such organisations are driven by greed and their morals can be bought. Sadly too, the rest of the world will turn a bind eye to Putin and his totalitarian ways until it is too late.

  9. lostinfrance 27 Jul 2013, 3:12pm

    It’s really disappointing that the best protest we can come up with collectively is to boycott Stoli vodka. Does anyone really believe that will make a difference? Its a shame that FEMENS paris HQ was recently burnt down as they sem to be the only active activists in town these days.
    A more direct protest is needed, like holding a mass rally in Moscow whilst this alleged armistice is affective. Will we bother to buy a ticket to Russia during the olympics… I doubt it. Gay bars keep serving the polish vodka, lets sit back and wait for Inna Schevchenko to tell us what to do.

    1. I believe that at least in the US that stoli is the biggest Russian import. So boycotting their biggest export to a country doesn’t seem that disappointing to me.

    2. The two are not mutually exclusive. I am boycotting Stoli and all other Russian vodkas and other products, while urging a boycott of the Olympics.

  10. Also that’s all well and good for the folk involved with the Games not having to worry about the authorities. but what about the nutjobs like that mob from yesterday targetting gay men and women.

    Have the IOC been given assurances that only locals will be targetted by neo-nazi mobs? Or will the authorities arrest them if they do target anyone involved in the Games, since they don’t appear to care if it’s a Russian getting the living daylights beaten out of them?

    1. casparthegood 27 Jul 2013, 3:25pm

      my concern exactly

    2. I totally agree. This gets even more sickening and horrible by the day.

      That Russia would attempt to cynically turn a blind eye to foreign gay people, while the Olympics were going on, so that event can go ahead with what they hope will not be a hitch. And yet feel they have no problem in carrying on with what is happening to members of Russian LGBT community is disgusting.
      In terms of the Olympics, this will be an ongoing problem, as we have look forward also to Qatar.

  11. Although “political statements are frowned upon by the IOC…” I think that OUT GAY ATHLETES and THEIR STR8 ALLIES should where a rainbow pin and/or wave a rainbow flag with their country’s flag…

    And a boycott of the games isn’t effective. Those people who protested whilst in the games are more memorable (the 2 black athletes who raised their fists in the air on the medal podium – protesting how blacks were being treated in the 1960s…)

    And finally, boycotting Stoli is WRONG… this company has done more for the LGBT Community than other brands would… Our focus needs to be on those companies “who” (thank you Citizens United) operate in “Mother Rrrrrrrusia”. Companies “who” have same-sex protections (Google, Microsoft, IBM, etc…) These companies need to “putin” the pressure on Putin and his thugs!

    1. wear…

    2. good points and strategy

    3. Finally, someone talking sense. As a former athlete I can assure you, that the only ones who will suffer from the boycott of the Games are the athletes. Not Putin, not Mizulina and not Milonov. The athletes, who have spent all their lives getting ready for this special event, whose families have had to give up so much and sacrifice so much. They don’t deserve it. Listen to Johnny Weir, he knows what he’s speaking about.

    4. Stoli has done nothing for the LGBT community other than to market to it. They said nothing as these barbaric laws were enacted. They don’t sponsor the Moscow gay pride parade. Or the St. Petersburg parade. They care only about their own profits. Its easy to say they support the gay community in New York and Los Angeles and Chicago. Why don’t they say the same in Russia?

    5. You must be an employee of stoli, to dish out such tripe.

  12. Likened to Section 28? Please, this is much, much worse. Section 28 was an unfortunate piece of legislation that had a chilling effect on the discussion of homosexuality in schools. Nobody was ever prosecuted under it, and it was only used once in legal argument – unsuccessfully – in a case where the Christian Institute tried to sue Glasgow City Council.

    This new Russian legislation calls for heavy fines and even detention for LGBT people and their straight allies. It effectively bans all pro-gay demonstrations. We know the Russian police will be willing to enforce it. To compare it to Section 28 is, frankly, insulting.

    1. Godric Godricson 27 Jul 2013, 5:48pm

      Agree completely

  13. Harvey Milk was very effective in getting Coors to change their outward support of homophobic laws and politicians by spearheading a boycott in San Francisco gay bars. A boycott of anything Russian by gays worldwide will send a strong message…..

  14. Athletes, spectators, and media should take full advantage of the exemptions not just to protests the laws, but to meet Russian LGBT people and further highlight for the world exactly what is going on. And if it wasn’t so dangerous for those involved, to provoke homophobic Russian thugs to make themselves visible.

    1. Agreed- anything that brings attention to the plight of Russian LGBTs will put a public face on this shameful law. The Russian government cannot be trusted.

  15. auntie babs 27 Jul 2013, 4:03pm

    Not good enough Russia…..seriously this is not acceptable. and I am quite angry that the IOC is presenting this as an assurance of Russia’s “good” intentions..

    1. Agreed

  16. The assurances could mean that athletes are able to protest for LGBT rights during the opening ceremony, although political statements are frowned upon by the IOC

    Regrettably, if there are demonstrations against Russia, I think it’s very likely that our own BBC will give them minimal coverage. You only need to recall what happened when Graham Norton was providing commentary for the Moscow Eurovision programme.

    And I don’t buy Graham Norton’s claim that he didn’t know enough about it. All too often we see those media types put their own selfish self-interests before the interests of the community at large.

  17. Lest we forget 27 Jul 2013, 4:22pm

    How could they even think that this was acceptable how could this ever be justified? And since this atrocious vile legislation is aimed only at the gay community? Seems to me the pink triangle process all over again? Gay Rights are Human Rights

  18. karen mckean 27 Jul 2013, 4:27pm

    Boycott the games. This is not how it should be. Russia you should be ashamed of yourselves.

  19. We will suspend our bizarre barbaric behaviour for athletes and spectators and bring ourselves into the 21st century, but only for the duration of the games you understand?

    Thanks for nothing.

  20. This is insufficient.
    It is a complete disgrace that such a barbaric and ignorant country is even allowed to host such an event.

  21. .....Paddyswurds 27 Jul 2013, 4:43pm

    Oh well thats ok then…..NOT! Any decent person worthy of being called a human being will have no truck with Russia and its rampant homophobia and bigoted dictator Putin, who is rapidly returning the Russian Federation back to the Soviet Union. They can stuff their Olympics and until the draconian anti gay laws they have enacted are dissolved all Russian politicians should be banned from travelling anywhere outside Russia. They must be isolated from the decent world until they learn how to live in the modern secular world. Same should apply to all countries that have similar anti Gay laws….. We as free Gay people must make our voices heard and shame any athletes or spectators intending to travel to Russia for the Olympics until they change their minds. We have proved we can make a difference if we try…….

  22. TOTAL BOYCOTT in solidarity with LGBT Russians.

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  24. This is all reminiscent of Nazi Germany allowing Jews and Blacks to participate in the Olympic Games before going back to discriminate against them. I wonder how many Russian citizens in the future will disavow any knowledge of their current discrimination policies?

  25. James Savik 27 Jul 2013, 5:09pm

    The Russians can not make the assurance. Their police will follow orders but the paramilitary thugs terrorizing gay people are not in their chain of command. Apparently nothing is being done about them either.

    1. GulliverUK 28 Jul 2013, 1:54pm

      Very well put – there is nothing which can be done to control the thugs, hence promises not to arrest and prosecute gay athletes or fans, does not really make the place any safer. You have gangs roaming the streets deliberately targeting people who are gay – it appears lawless because the authorities deliberately don’t do anything to stop it. Thus, it becomes the rule of the street. A gay man killed, others kidnapped and terrorised, people who are gay being beater up — and the Russian police do nothing.

  26. I will be boycotting the games and any Russian made goods/services. The fact they’re providing assurances that no foreigners will be subject to their anti-gay laws surely shows that they know they’re wrong to enact such laws anyway?

    1. justusboyz 27 Jul 2013, 5:59pm

      Exactly Dave

  27. Typical political bollocks just like Nazi Germany’s Olympic games… just a wolf in sheeps clothing. The idea of excepting certain people from brutality for your own financial and political benefit is even more insulting than if you were to downright ban all LGBT people from the Olympics. At least then I could (kind of) respect you for being honest and realistic about it.

    Take your super special gold-star excemption-certificates for the wealthy tourists and shove it, it’s simply unacceptable.

    Mr. Pink

  28. Georg Friedrich 27 Jul 2013, 5:36pm

    For me, as German, its like resurrection of Olympic Games in Berlin 1936 for the second time: with same statements, words, policies and promises. First class guests (from abroad) and second class citizens (gay Russians) in the same city for only few weeks. Then both will go they own – and very different – way.

  29. Christopher Coleman 27 Jul 2013, 6:02pm

    PM Cameron should be in the forefront of politicians protesting the Russian anti-GLBT laws. We will probably not see that, nor do I expect that any country will boycott the games. I also do not expect that BBC commentators will include even factual statements about conditions in Russia.

    The modern Olympics are a farce, anyway. They should be about individual contestants, but it’s all about countries and how many medals they can accumulate — and those hideous national anthems. TV coverage in every country will concentrate on how that country’s athletes are faring. The original purpose of the games is now lost in a maelstrom of nationalism and money.

    IOC, FIFA — all the same; I have no time for them or what they put on. The Brazilians will not benefit from the World Cup. I shall certainly not look at any part of these two international nonsenses. However, I do like the Brazilians and have always found them to be delightful people.

  30. That makes it all right then?

  31. What a crock! Who’s gonna fall for this damage limitation statement? It actually gives more credence to a boycott. It’s not even worth discussing this ioc statement, it has not changed anything.

  32. Intellectual pygmies advice centre 27 Jul 2013, 6:55pm

    When Russian athletes competed in Britain, were they free from our ‘draconian ‘ incest laws as they are in their own country? Where were you all then?
    In Britain connsensual adult incest is illegal even where there is no pregnancy risk. In Russia , bestiality , consensual adult incest and de facto polygamy are all legal which makes russia the more progressive, and sexually tolerant than Britain, hypocrites!

    1. Commander Thor 27 Jul 2013, 7:27pm

      Keith, go sniff some poop.

      1. Sniff it? Keith the religious manic has a skull full of it and it keeps sliding out of his mouth. When will PINK NEWS finally ban that trolling turd once and for all? Is it really too much to ask that someone in the Pink News staff set-up actually reads the comments and deletes Keith the religious manic troll as soon as he posts up?

    2. justusboyz 27 Jul 2013, 8:37pm

      Rubbish, and you are worse than dumb, go get an education idiot.
      And keep your ‘advice’ to yourself

  33. thelostdot 27 Jul 2013, 6:56pm

    They can boycott South Africa for Aparteid, but not Russia for Homophobia. What does that say to you?

  34. The whole thing is outrageous!

    I feel like doing something symbolical that might be a good way to attract media attention to the issue – like burning my passport in front of the Russian embassy or perhaps renouncing my citizenship or something similar (I’m a dual citizen of UK and Russia). But I have no idea how to approach this…

  35. This is why we should NOT boycott The Olympics.

    We should go and make them choke on rainbowflags and show them up like Jessie Owens giving a big F-you to Hitler in 1936.

    We should SHAME them in front of the entire world.

  36. Velvet Steele 27 Jul 2013, 8:13pm

    And I am the new Minnie Mouse! How many of you will believe that?

  37. Athletes and spectators will be exempt from the anti gay laws? Yeah, right! And if you believe that,have I got a bowl of borscht made with the blood of gays for you Russia.

  38. Justice will Prevail 27 Jul 2013, 9:03pm

    There is mot a shred of common Humanity in Putin’s law.
    Their would be more of an impact if sports personalities like Double Olympic champian “Mo Farah came onboard highlighting this gross injustice.

  39. David Skinner 27 Jul 2013, 9:28pm

    Since when were sodomy, frotting, rimming, sado masochism and giving the gift, sporting events? Or are these an addition to parasports.

    1. Well you seem to know your stuff when it comes to gay sex….

    2. Still beating the wife Dave? Or have you been reduced to spanking the monkey instead all the while thinking of gee-sus hanging naked off the old cross eh?

      Skinner another religious manic troll that needs banning from this site once and for all.

  40. Boycott. It. !!!!

  41. how would the ioc respond if the winter olympics were to be hosted by a country where discrimination against black people or jewish people was written into law?

    1. I think we saw that in 1936 Berlin, it would seem the underlying factors in the IOC have not changed, as long as they get their kickbacks. They need to be shamed.

  42. Let me guess who from the IOC negotiated these iron-clad assurances: Nevillle Chamberlain?

    The vodka boycott will not be effective but it DOES move Russia’s gay-hating laws into the consciousness of the public and not just “gay media”. I hope some of the publicity slips through the censors to our Russian brothers and sisters and those under attack in many of the old Warsaw Pact countries.

    Maybe some of the gay-friendly christians can apply some pressure on the Russian orthodox churches to stop fomenting the torture and murder of gays and lesbians.

  43. Not good enough. I will be active in any campaign I can find to stop British athletes from taking part. I would feel ashamed to see British athletes going to Russia.

    It’s time people start making their views known and taking a moral stand. Enough is enough.

    Time to start planning boycotts for any company even thinking about sponsoring the games.

  44. David Skinner 27 Jul 2013, 10:22pm

    If I were a black man or Jewish I don’t think I would take too kindly to being identified with being gay. People who make such comments do not have the courage to make such remarks in Brixton or Golders Green. Being black is an ontological state like being animal, vegetable or mineral. Whereas being gay is an abstract noun like being a ploughing . No one is born a ploughman. A man ceases to be such the second he stops ploughing, but a black man is always black whether awake or asleep, alive or dead. Gayness describes the behaviour of a relationship

    1. There is more than enough scientific empirical evidence to establish the fact that being gay is an innate biological part of someone’s make-up. People know they are gay, just like others know they are straight. People who are transgender know their body doesn’t match their brain’s gender identity.

      You can’t tell all people who are from Israeli ancestry just by looking. The NAACP have said that they believe being gay is an innate characteristic the same way skin colour is. Being gay isn’t something you chose, so I’m quite surprised you seem to be suggesting it is. Heterosexuals don’t chose to be heterosexual, they just know they are, and gay people just know they are gay. My father was a vet, I same him help with the birth of a calf, the calf got up relatively quickly. It knew where to get milk from, it knew how to walk. Bees know they need to get honey from flowers. A lot of genetic material contains coding which instruct different types of animals how to behave.

      1. Intellectual pygmies advice centre 28 Jul 2013, 8:36am

        The same could be said (and is) for paedophilia. Doesn’t make it moral though.
        The fact is that there is no gay gene. and humans are designed for opposite sex mating only.

        1. Paedophilia is a psychsexual “thinking” disorder, for example most paedophiles are men, few women. It centers upon being unable to form adult relationships successfully. Scientists can actually breed mice to be gay, and switch sexual orientation back and forth in fruit flies. It’s sad that when everybody disagrees with you and tells you these things that you mind is in such a Luddite mode that it refuses to accept new information .. basically, you are such a religious fundamentalist and zealot you are literally unable to process new information or learn. There is plenty of information about this on the web – go look, but I suspect you aren’t now capable of assimilating new information. And for your information most Christians in the US and here don’t believe being gay is a choice. They’ve got it, why haven’t you?

          And why do you feel so insecure that you need to keep coming here and baiting and harassing people who are gay?

          1. Well you just can’t help yourself that much is obvious the turd trolls appear and you bite on the bait every time. Do you honestly think anything you reply to those trolls makes one shred of difference to the fact that they hated you before and they still hate you after?

          2. GulliverUK 28 Jul 2013, 7:42pm

            Popoff,
            You would let these things go unchallenged?
            You don’t recognise that someone is in desperate need here? These people, like Keith and others, are living in a crisis, they’re in severe risk of having a mental breakdown – it’s not possible to keep so much hate inside without serious medical risks. I would be surprised if they’re taking 10 years off their own life expectancy. It’s true we do ignore what they say, they have no affect on us at all, the only thing is they are irritating because they momentarily interrupt the flow of respect and dialogue between us gays. I’m just concerned for their welfare – I can imagine them self-harming with alcohol, drugs or worse – I can feel the desperation in their posts, can’t you?

            I’m not sure if we should ignore these people or try to help them.

        2. Obviously the same could be said for paedophilia, but that harms innocents consensual sex between two men or two women has no victims. How do you know there’s no ‘gay gene’? Sexuality is almost definitely an example of continuous variation, which is polygenic, and influenced by many different genes at different loci as well as by the environment to some degree. Of course your head is probably stuffed with so much religious bull-crap I doubt you understand a lick of science. Finally don’t try to shove that ‘unnatural’ nonsense on us. Don’t you think if I was ‘designed’ (as you say) for opposite sex mating I would actually be attracted to the opposite sex in the first place? Also what do you think opposite sex mating is exactly, anal? Even though about 40% of gay men don’t have anal sex. I

          1. He’s also disregarding the 2000 species of animal that can be gay, the fact that homosexuality has been around for millenia and hasn’t been phased out of the gene pool which means it benefits the tribe, the physical differences between gay and straight male brains etc. etc. etc.

          2. Keith, the eventual winner. 28 Jul 2013, 3:30pm

            Paedophilia harms nobody and it is legal. Are you getting confused with child abuse?

          3. “Paedophilia harms nobody”? Are you for real? Your fantasies seem to be taking over what little brain you have, Keith the regular loser, old fruit.

    2. How philosophical. LOL. Ploughman? WTF. I think you might have a vegetable for a brain.

      Being Jewish isn’t genetic. Judaism is a religion, anyone can convert to Judaism. However, the genetics of sexual orientation are still being debated. Its certainly epi-genetic, so therefore being gay is a biologically born attribute, just like being black. You should read some science, if you are going to use science for your homophobic argument. I can assure you whether I’m awake or alseep, alive or dead, I’m gay. And I don’t stop ‘gaying’, like a ploughman when he stops ploughing (that’s gotta be the most stupid idea I’ve ever heard BTW)

      Biologically throughout nature, homosexuality is observed by science as a natural state of being. Whereas I don’t think anyone has ever seen another living species ‘ploughing’

      BTW, ‘ploughing’ is slang for very very very hard sex, which I’m sure is what is really on your mind. Closet.

    3. Please do not feed this troll.

    4. Back under the bridge, you silly man. Oops I used the ontological description ‘man’ incorrect.

  45. Having an opt-out for some is even more outrageous, and means the law is a sham. All laws have to be applied equally or they would be seen as ridiculous. Persecuting Russian gays, but ignoring foreign gays … or gay athletes, is just plain daft. So, no deal.

    We must continue and intensify all boycotts – all Russian products. I’m ditching Kaspersky anti-virus (I’m trialing 3 alternatives now). Kaspersky is a really good product, but I’ll dump it, and anything I find is Russian.

    Put is too proud to repeal the law, but he could change it so that it only covers a very specific area, something so obscure that the law really has no effect, and that Pride can go ahead, magazine and articles can allow for a free discussion, sexual health information is not put in jeopardy. That would be a first step. Then it could be quietly repealed in a couples of years time, without losing face.

  46. The long shadow of 1936…

  47. I DO’NT BELIEVE IOC has received any reassurance ! surrendering such a reassurance means at the same time the admittance : this law, our law is not OK!

  48. David Skinner 27 Jul 2013, 11:49pm

    The long shadow of 1938 indeed!
    Ernst Rohem was a homosexual. Goering was a cross dresser and Hitler certainly had a question mark hanging over his orientation. I suppose he would fit LGBTQuestioning.

    1. Hitler was a Christian, he said his faith guided his hand in the final solution. And Christians in Germany and elsewhere stood by and let the holocaust happen. And people like you David are responsible for holocaust – you have a think about that David, when you are trying to get to sleep tonight. Think it through, you are trying to repeat a history which was one of the darkest moments of the last 100 years. People like you should be locked up for the protection of society.

    2. GingerlyColors 28 Jul 2013, 12:31am

      Hitler only got one ball.
      The other was in the Albert Hall.
      Himler, had something similar.
      And poor old Goering,
      Had no balls at all!

    3. barriejohn 28 Jul 2013, 8:17am

      What on earth are you talking about? For one thing, the reference was to the 1936 Berlin Olympics, in case you didn’t realize that. Also, Ernst Roehm and the other SA leaders (many gay) were executed on Hitler’s orders. And as for this “question mark” hanging over Hitler’s sexuality, it’s a bit of a red herring. He does seem to have exhibited some unusual sexual behaviour, but purely of the heterosexual variety. Maybe in your view homosexuality, perversion, degradation, violence, and even paedophilia, can all be lumped together: you wouldn’t be the first one to think that way!

    4. Seems someone’s been drinking the Scott Lively “Pink swastika” cool-aid.
      By the time WWII was in full swing Ernst Rohm was pushing up the daisies following the night of the long knives on Hilter’s orders and gay people were being carted to concentration camps by the truckload with pink triangles on their lapels.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Holocaust
      But let’s just accept Lively’s highly selective reading of Nazi history at face value, the one that makes gay people the driving force of the Nazi movement.
      I mean, it’s not like the guy has an anti-gay agenda or anything, right?
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pink_Swastika
      Those that don’t learn from history David are doomed to repeat it.
      And FYI Scott Lively is one of the authors of the “Kill the gays” legislation currently working it’s way through the Ugandan parliament.

  49. GingerlyColors 28 Jul 2013, 12:28am

    Don’t forget Russia will be hosting the FIFA World Cup finals in 2018. Will spectators and participants be exempt from anti-gay laws then? And will Qatar do the same when it hosts the World Cup in 2022?

  50. barriejohn 28 Jul 2013, 8:02am

    An admission, then, that this law is unjust. If not, it would have to be applied equally and at all times!

  51. Progressive Russia 28 Jul 2013, 9:59am

    When Russian athletes competed in Britain, were they free from our ‘draconian ‘ incest laws as they are in their own country? Where were you all then?
    In Britain connsensual adult incest is illegal even where there is no pregnancy risk. In Russia , bestiality , consensual adult incest and de facto polygamy are all legal which makes Russia the more progressive, and sexually tolerant than Britain, hypocrites!!

    1. A “Sexally tolerant” country doesn’t have “anti-gay” laws.

      1. Keith, the eventual winner. 28 Jul 2013, 3:35pm

        Would you consider a country that bans consensual adult incest (even where there is no pregnancy risk) and polygamy to be more sexually tolereant than Russia which allows homosexuality (minus propaganda) de facto polygamy, consensual adult incest and bestiality?
        I think I have shown that between the two countries, Russis is the more sexually tolerant since it allows all sexual activity that Britain nallows and it allows mauch sexual activity that Britain bans.
        You deviant]s are fighting on the wrong side!

        1. Copying and pasting another reply to you:

          Again with your irrelivent obession with beastiality and incest.

          How many people do you meet who are in a relationship with their sister or mother? How many people do you honestly think are out their who totally have the hots for their dog? Provided you actually meet people at all, for some reason I don’t think you get out and meet people much.

          I have no doubt there are people with attractions to a family member or animals, but I’m willing to bet they make up about 0.00001% of the population.

          There wouldn’t be enough of these people to fill an annual conference hall for Incest & Beastiality, let alone organize and mobalize an equal rights movement.

          You’re talking about people that simply don’t exist. I meet plenty of gay people, but I’ve yet to meet an incestious or interspecies couple. My friend is very close to his Parot, but that’s about it.

          You need to get a life and some common sense, mate.

          Mr. Pink

  52. Noone human person should take part in it, be there or even watchin it!

  53. So basically we will make sure we only violate lgtb’s before and after the games, unless of course it’s outside Sochi !!!!

  54. Someone be sure the skinheads and police get a copy of the memo.

    As for the IOC, don’t get me started.

  55. Great news….Russia promises not to intimidate, persecute or violently attack gays and lesbians for a whole fortnight.
    That’s 14 whole days in which your chances of getting beaten and tortured are slightly reduced…bless ‘em.
    Almost makes you want to be Russian.

  56. Sign this petition and share it.

    http://www.change.org/petitions/stand-against-russia-s-brutal-crackdown-on-gay-rights-urge-winter-olympics-2014-sponsors-to-condemn-anti-gay-laws?utm_campaign=twitter_link_action_box&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition

    If you want to do something, you could at least sign this petition urging major olympic sponsors to boycott Sochi. Please sign!
    (Ginny reposted)

  57. Just signed the petition. It’s increasing second by second! Shame on you Russia and any organisation that positivly supports these games. People have the ultimate power.

  58. RosstorWho 28 Jul 2013, 3:23pm

    This is not good enough!

  59. Keith, the eventual winner. 28 Jul 2013, 3:37pm

    Would you consider a country that bans consensual adult incest (even where there is no pregnancy risk) and polygamy to be more sexually tolereant than Russia which allows homosexuality (minus propaganda) de facto polygamy, consensual adult incest and bestiality?
    I think I have shown that between the two countries, Russis is the more sexually tolerant since it allows all sexual activity that Britain nallows and it allows mauch sexual activity that Britain bans.
    You deviant]s are fighting on the wrong side!

    1. justusboyz 28 Jul 2013, 4:25pm

      Oh p**s of Keith you’re an idiot and a loser

    2. Again with your irrelivent obession with beastiality and incest.

      How many people do you meet who are in a relationship with their sister or mother? How many people do you honestly think are out their who totally have the hots for their dog?

      I have no doubt there are people with attractions to a family member or animals, but I’m willing to bet they make up about 0.00001% of the population.

      There wouldn’t be enough of these people to fill an annual conference hall for Incest & Beastiality, let alone organize and mobalize an equal rights movement.

      You’re talking about people that simply don’t exist. I meet plenty of gay people, but yet to meet an incestious or interspecies couple.

      You need to get a life and some common sense, mate.

      Mr. Pink

  60. It was a huge mistake to award the Winter Games to the Russians. They have no respect for human rights. Boycott the Olympics.

  61. Translation: They hate gay people, but they want gay money. Unless they make things better for gay people in Russia, I wouldn’t visit Sochi 2014 if they paid me.

  62. Appalling what is happening in Russia at the moment, the Russian government and the Russian Orthodox church are inciting the kind of hatred they used to against other groups within their country. The Nazis temporarily ceased any public displays of antisemitism during the 1936 Berlin games, this seems similar from an outsiders’ perspective.

  63. According to Wikipedia fact sheet, the 2014 Winter games will be the most expensive ever staged.

    Add the fact that they are also the most controversial because of the LGBT human rights issues.

    The focus of protest against this has become Russian product boycotts. Tourist are being discouraged from attending the games etc, but how many people who can’t go to the games or boycott them are prepared to cancel or indicate they will not purchase PPV from to the media outlets televising them? Surely if people want media to highlight human rights violations, one way is to hit media in the pocket book to make them squeal because as we know by example the BBC wouldn’t protest LGBT issues… but others would if they know their bottom line will evaporate and subscribers decide to walk.

    There will be lots of hypocrites out their if they are protesting the 2014 Olympics then subscribe to TV/media coverage!

    1. Petition Urging Corps To Boycott #Russian Olympics Reaches 50k.Targets Coca-Cola, Panasonic, VISA, Samsung, P&G http://bit.ly/15XyYuq #lgbt

      Thus, there is more than just Russia Vodka which can be boycotted. I think McDonalds is involved as well. We can consider boycotting them here in this country – not difficult since they have almost the worst food ever.

      This is where we need an advocacy group here which doesn’t have to treat as lightly as Stonewall does. We don’t want dainty shoes, but hob-nailed boots. Anything linked to Russia needs to be targeted, anything half-arsed isn’t going to work. We need to explain to people that missing the Olympics one time for the cause of human rights is the correct thing to do.

      1. Gulliver, agreed! No stone should be left unturned! it is also in my view to also make it clear to the corporations there are no half measures. Just because Putin has given his assurances the laws won’t apply to athletes and visitors during the games, it won’t apply to or help the Russian LGBT citizens or community, because it doesn’t offer a similar (for want of a better description “Get of of Jail card”) Sponsors need to withdraw their support for the games and the Russian economy “no exceptions”.

  64. Keith, the eventual winner. 29 Jul 2013, 9:19am

    Russia is far more tolerant of all sexual activity than Britain since it tolerates homosexuality, bestiality, consensual adult incest and de facto polygamy. Britain on the other hand tolerates only homosexulaity while banning all those other activities.
    There is no basis for the claim that Russia is oppressing homosexuals. It merely seeks to prevent filthy propaganda.
    If the Russian consensual incestuous adulty community (which are legal) started promoting their deviance, would you gayers believe that to also to be an infringement of human rights?
    The promotion incest or homosexuality is not a human right and sovereign countries are allowed to determine these things for themselves. Simply put, mind your own business, especially since I have demonstrated that Russia is far more tolerant of sexual deviance than Britain.

    1. And the football World Cup to be held in Qatar? All international sporting bodies should declare any country that descriminates or criminalises people for their race or sexuality should automatically be barred from holding any internation sporting event. Simple as that. They would be free to hold their own Bigot Games.

    2. Again with your irrelivent obession with beastiality and incest.

      How many people do you meet who are in a relationship with their sister or mother? How many people do you honestly think are out their who totally have the hots for their dog?

      I have no doubt there are people with attractions to a family member or animals, but I’m willing to bet they make up about 0.00001% of the population.

      There wouldn’t be enough of these people to fill an annual conference hall for Incest & Beastiality, let alone organize and mobalize an equal rights movement.

      You’re talking about people that simply don’t exist. I meet plenty of gay people, but yet to meet an incestious or interspecies couple.

      You need to get a life and some common sense, mate.

      Mr. Pink

  65. http://rbth.ru/news/2013/07/28/russian_lawmaker_wants_ban_on_gay_propaganda_to_be_applied_to_sochi_game_28449.html

    The assurances of the IOM are nothing but an attempt to deceive the public from the truth of the matter.

    Next and relating to this topic we should not only boycott the Games we should be asking for all Russian lawmakers to have their visa applications denied into Europe and USA.

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/lawmakers-seek-probe-into-gay-activists-twitter-remarks/483747.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:%20themoscowtimes/news%20(The%20Moscow%20Times%20News)

    An online petition to the White House describes Mizulina as a person who is “responsible for the federal law banning gay ‘propaganda’ to minors and for the law banning foreign adoptions of Russian orphans by gays and lesbians.”

    The petition requests that U.S. authorities to put her on the visa blacklist.

  66. Tom Chicago 29 Jul 2013, 3:11pm

    Ham-handed PR, merely. As if there is such a thing as a cozy Russian winter.

  67. This utter tosser is the only leader in the world that takes his top off, he would look more at home at gay pride, not that we would let him in….oh yes “POP YOUR TOP ON LUV”

  68. MerlynHerne 29 Jul 2013, 5:07pm

    If anyone believes this tosgh, I have a bridge I can sell them. I don’t trust the Russians, especially Putin, one iota.

  69. They want the financial benefit of the Olympics without taking responsibility for their human rights abuses. BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT!!!

  70. Baeeybear1980 29 Jul 2013, 8:29pm

    I hope the UK is not planning to send anyone to the games?

    All Russian goods should be boycotted by the EU until the law is changed

    1. Russia is a barbaric nation of violent drunkards and whorishly dressed women. It is the epicentre of hypocrisy in the world (together with Saudi Arabia). Boycott anything Russian.

  71. I’m not sure boycotting the Winter Olympics or more importantly the world athletics championship will get through to our LGBT brother & sisters in Russia and other oppressed regimes.

    We should go and march with rainbow flags, wear rainbow badges and turn our backs when Russian anthem is played, maybe that will get through?

    And sign the petition (thanks pavlos for sharing link). Next stage we boycott sponsors products – that’ll get them on board!

    1. Self adhesive conference paper badges. . . pink triangles. . . millions of them stuck on everything anyone wears especially on shorts vests and tracksuits at every event. . . athletes, trainers, officials. . . every television shot will have pink triangles, that should bugger them up.

  72. Just don’t have anything to do with the games, much as it will hurt or disappoint those taking part or those supporting them or their team. Be conspicuous by one’s absence, then let everyone know just what a power-crazed, homophobic bigot Putin really is.

  73. Keith, the eventual winner. 30 Jul 2013, 12:37pm

    Russia is far more tolerant of all sexual activity than Britain since it tolerates homosexuality, bestiality, consensual adult incest and de facto polygamy. Britain on the other hand tolerates only homosexulaity while banning all those other activities.
    There is no basis for the claim that Russia is oppressing homosexuals. It merely seeks to prevent filthy propaganda.
    If the Russian consensual incestuous adulty community (which are legal) started promoting their deviance, would you gayers believe that to also to be an infringement of human rights?
    The promotion incest or homosexuality is not a human right and sovereign countries are allowed to determine these things for themselves. Simply put, mind your own business, especially since I have demonstrated that Russia is far more tolerant of sexual deviance than Britain..

    1. Again with your irrelivent obession with beastiality and incest.

      How many people do you meet who are in a relationship with their sister or mother? How many people do you honestly think are out their who totally have the hots for their dog?

      I have no doubt there are people with attractions to a family member or animals, but I’m willing to bet they make up about 0.00001% of the population.

      There wouldn’t be enough of these people to fill an annual conference hall for Incest & Beastiality, let alone organize and mobalize an equal rights movement.

      You’re talking about people that simply don’t exist. I meet plenty of gay people, but yet to meet an incestious or interspecies couple.

      You need to get a life and some common sense, mate. If you don’t like homosexuality, don’t have homosexual sex. If you don’t like incest, don’t shag your mother. Why waste your life fighting something that will always be around and doesn’t even affect you? For gods sake, get a hobby.

      Mr. Pink

      1. Additionally, what the hell do you think made humans so morally deviant and made people fall in love and want to have sex with children, animals, inanimate objects, buildings, groceries and all other sorts of crazy sexual behaviours?

        Is it because human sexuality has been allowed to flourish over the years? No, that can’t be it. It must be the centuries and centuries of sexual supression, repression and oppression that made people go all crazy with the sex. It’s RELIGION that has caused this pervertion, if anything.

        If you supress a desire long enough it makes you go insane. History has proved it time and time again with serial killers, peadophile priests, and even you, my friend.

        People are gonna fall in love with men, women, children, animals and everything else and no amount of laws of social stigma will stop them as history has proven.

        Why?

        because Love Conquers Hate
        It allways has, & it always will

        This is the way the world is. Get used to it – adapt or die.

        Mr. Pink

  74. Keith, the eventual winner. 30 Jul 2013, 7:36pm

    “How many people do you meet who are in a relationship with their sister or mother? ”
    No idea. People usually don’t volunteer such information.
    “If you supress a desire long enough it makes you go insane”
    Is that a scientific fact? Any peer reviewed studies to support it?Do you realize you just gave license to rapists and paedos?
    “This is the way the world is. Get used to it – adapt or die. ”
    How ironic that a member of the disproportionately plague riddled high mortality community is telling me to adapt?
    If you want to live, adapt to morality which means abstinence until monogamous opposite sex marriage, or die early.
    All this does not detract from my main point that Russia tolerates more sexual behaviours than Britain, which criminalizes even certain consensual adult sex.

    1. Your main point is that Russia “tolerates more sexual behaviours than Britain” [by which presumably you mean the UK]?

      Wow, talk about staying on-topic as usual, Keith you poor sweet old thing.

  75. Not good enough. The IOC need to take human rights into account before awarding countries the Olympic games. Like China in 2008, Russia should not be hosting these games at all. All civilised nations should boycott these games.

  76. Maybe this is an opportunity to make as much noise as possible about this in protest. If even a hundred people from abroad come over for the Olympics and start a mass protest, I wonder how long it will take before this “promise” is broken?

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