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Archbishop of Kenya warns Justin Welby against supporting civil partnerships

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  1. Arguing over the assumed wishes of their imaginary friend – As meaningful as an earnest debate over who would win in a fight between Batman and Superman.

    I would call them childish, facile, irrelevant and engaged in a mass delusion of magic-boggled fantasy nonsense – Except for the demonstrable harm they do to people, and the amount of money they siphon from the vulnerable to keep the priest classes in brocade and funny hats.

    Pathetic, to a man. Worthy only of the most robust mockery.

    1. Sacre bleu 23 Jul 2013, 3:07pm

      Valksy, I think the so called ‘imaginary friend’ is more like an ‘imaginary celestial puppet’ because they seem to pull strings to make this puppet do what ever they want. What do you think?

      Even their book of rules is full of contradictions, open to interpretation and like a ‘pick and pay’ – choose which sweeties you want and leave the ones you don’t like. The original in the genre of fantasy fiction!

  2. “….which he accused of promoting “a false gospel”.”

    News for you bish.

    It IS a false gospel.

    It’s made up.

  3. Hmm the primate if Kenya? That explains a lot. Not only does he look like an ape, he also behaves like one!!

    1. Do you look like a troll in real life?

    2. All human beings are African apes, including yourself Jan.

      1. I know but we don’t all behave like out ancestors of 60,000 years ago!

    3. Sacre bleu 23 Jul 2013, 3:11pm

      I don’t know what is more contemptible, your comment or Archbishop Wabukala. S

    4. Godric Godricson 23 Jul 2013, 4:53pm

      Racist, racist, racist and illegal under English law

  4. Please, go back to the furthest reaches of the cave you crawled out of or get with the times.

  5. This is exactly why the Church should have no involvement in the state. They not just the “Church of England” they’re influenced by other countries’ lunatic bigots.

    Why the f$@k do we have to put up with this?

    1. Because if one person has an invisible magical friend who guides their thoughts and actions, they are dismissed as mentally ill. If you recruit others to believe in the same crap, you can have wealth and power by extorting the gullible and controlling the weak.

  6. ‘Secular’ is a word used for the absence of religion in non-religious affairs (ie politics or madrigals). I don’t see what it has to do with theology, unless your concerns are more political than religious. In which case, I take it ‘secular’ is a codeword for religious teachings you just don’t like.

    We seriously need a moratorium on the bandying around of the phrase ‘Anglican communion’ as if people can agree on what it actually is, as if its organising principles are orthodox in any way or as if its dissolution would be an enormous loss to the world or even Christianity for that matter.

  7. Why are these people so ‘selective’ in the use of the bible to justify their bigotry? There are HUNDREDS of things that old fable regards as ‘sins’. Yet these former colonies insist on focusing on the anti-gay bits – ALL of which were laws introduced by their former white colonizers. What short memories they have. THEY were oppressed by white men. Now, they oppress their own people over the rantings contained in an old book. Oh! Grow up …. and move into the 21st century!

  8. God is love … apparently!

  9. Trouble is the Arch of Cant is too easily influenced in pleasing the African churches. He should go ahead and do what is right for the UK

  10. I don’t know why anyone gives a crap about CPs any more. I have one and can’t wait to change it to an actual marriage.

    Civil partnerships are so naff, I have about the same emotional attachment to is as I do my will.

  11. The way I see this is some guy in funny hat in Kenya is upset with some guys in the UK that also wears fun hats because his opinion of what a book of made up stories doesn’t agree with what he thinks these other guys might do.
    Wow! Earth shaking news!

  12. Wabukala is the one preaching a false gospel!
    He preaches a gospel of judging thy neighbour.
    Condemning thy neighbour.
    Bearing false witness against thy neighbour.

    Doesn’t sound like he is following the teachings of his god, Jesus! Wabukala is trying to play God while using God’s name and authority to do so.

    He’s a typical self-righteous follower of jesus who would cast the first stone at anyone he deems unworthy.

    Wabukala is also typical of many Anglican and Catholic seminarians who enter the teach to escape a live of poverty and hunger. Many are ignorant, small-minded bigots beyond belief!

    1. I meant to say ‘enter the Church to escape a life of poverty and hunger’

  13. Guglielmo Marinaro 23 Jul 2013, 4:00pm

    I’m not a member of the Church of England, but why should it pay any attention to retarded attitudes prevalent in Kenya? The Archbishops of Canterbury and York should tell him to mind his own fʌkɪɳ business.

  14. GulliverUK 23 Jul 2013, 4:02pm

    The Church of England has no say-so in our marriage laws – they tried to scupper things and failed, pitting most of the public against them, and degrading their already strained relationship with the public even further.

    This twat from Kenya has no influence on the Church of England at all, and nor should he. The clue is in the name. If the CofE had any sense they would cut Africa adrift and save themselves before not-right-in-the-head wingnuts like this scupper the entire Anglican communion. Remember, the clue is in the name … Anglican! Not Kenyan, or African, it’s a British church for the UK – I’ve no idea what possessed them to hook up with these African nutters in the first place. Just sent them a Dear John letter.

    What would be a really neat trick is if I clicked my fingers and every right-wing prat across the planet suddenly disappeared. I shall pray for that ! :)

    1. Godric Godricson 23 Jul 2013, 5:03pm

      Unfortunately GulliverUK, the Kenyan Church is an off shoot from the Church of England (an English Church) and it’s a colonial relic. The Church of Kenya is like the C of E a hundred years ago. Time to wave them goodbye. But…what about Kenyans who have to live with such delusional men in positions of power? How can we help LGBT people in Kenya? Difficult question with no clear answers.

      1. GulliverUK 23 Jul 2013, 7:04pm

        Good questions. Extreme circumstances require extreme measures. I would think it was a good possibility that the severing and cutting adrift of their entire African part of the Anglican communion would send a very powerful message that their beliefs are not those of the true Anglican church, that they must exist on their own, in isolation, they will not receive money from the european and North American Anglican communion, that they are outcasts until they learn to respect all human beings.

        Ofcourse, although I, personally, think this is a good idea, it could well go very pear-shaped and further impact on what little freedom LGBT people in Africa have. But right now things have gotten considerable worse for LGBT people in the last few years alone – it’s make or break time, something has to be done, something big. You’re right to be concerned in case any action makes thing worse.

    2. Africans are about the only people left on the planet who take the Anglican Church seriously in any great number. They can’t cut them off, it would be them who would be adrift not the other way round.

      It would be better if the British people told the church where to go, stopped giving religions tax breaks, and outlawed them from state affairs, including education.

      1. GulliverUK 23 Jul 2013, 7:12pm

        Joss, I like your approach, and I do know the African part is probably now the largest part. But better to part of something small and wholesome, than part of a big group dominated by extremists and Dominionists. Let’s face it, people like Wabukala are holding Welby’s testicles in a vice, telling him what to say – we don’t want African bishops calling the shots for the UK Church of England.

        I don’t think it’s right to have Welby as both Archbishop of Canterbury AND leader of the Anglican Communion – how can he keep the very different views of both properly represented.

  15. Seems like The Tablet is trying to stir up things in the CofE-probably its a membership drive on behalf of the Catholic Church to attract disgruntled homophobic Anglicans?

  16. George Broadhead 23 Jul 2013, 5:15pm

    Yet another homophobic pronouncement from an African prelate!

    These have become so commonplace that they have ceased to be newsworthy.

  17. It seems that these African Anglican priests are full of hate, maybe it’s their way of getting back a whitetie?
    I’m an Anglican and my parish supports same sex blessings.
    We of the Anglican communion should consider excommunicating the African Anglican as a whole.
    We send money to support this hatred, from the west. Cut the money off and hit them where it hurts, the pocket book.
    The carpenter would not put up with this kind of thinking 2013 years ago?

    1. George Bradhead 24 Jul 2013, 8:22am

      Like all fundamentalist Christians, they are following the biblical teaching on homosexuality as they interpret them.

    2. Your parish is one of few. Don;t make this into a racial arguement when you and I both know how homophobic the Anglican and Catholic churches are.

  18. He and his fellow welfare-queens can go soak their heads. If anyone looks like a dangerous child molester, it’s this tosser.

  19. Shelley Adrienne Mimi Belsky 15 Aug 2013, 7:44pm

    It’s not your goddamned planet monkey boy!

  20. Oh, shut up bigot homophobic ignorant old bag!

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