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Study finds that children of gay parents are generally happier than those with straight parents

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  1. colonelkira 20 Jul 2013, 8:09pm

    Well DUH!………..Us gay parents rock!

    You wanna know whats funny/sad? You just know that the crazy right wingers will say “Oh he’s biased, and he is gay so he invented his findings! Or he has a vested interest in a positive result”………..blah blah blah

    Who wants to bet me 20 quid?……..LOL

    1. bobbleobble 20 Jul 2013, 8:36pm

      No one is going to take that bet! If you listen hard enough you can hear them pounding away on their keyboards in self righteous anger. ‘But….but….but Regnerus!’

  2. Did expect an openly gay researcher to say that he is not a good father?

    1. Commander Thor 20 Jul 2013, 9:29pm

      Do you expect a black man to say he is not a good father?

      1. Commander Thor 21 Jul 2013, 12:32pm

        That was bloody irony, people.

    2. If that is what the data shows (given the study was conducted correctly), then that is what an ethical researcher should report.
      In any case, it has been published and it is out for its scrutiny by the community of intelligent people.

    3. John Clark 21 Jul 2013, 4:21pm

      This study will be subject to peer review, therefor your accusation of bias is unfounded.

    4. “Did expect an openly gay researcher to say that he is not a good father?”

      What’s wrong, can’t critically evaluate the results on your own? Not smart enough?

  3. Someone tell Putin in Russia!!!!!

    1. Christopher Coleman 22 Jul 2013, 1:25am

      It would only set the Russians more firmly in their attitudes. They actually enjoy being miserable.

  4. Well, “Gay” does also mean “happy”.

  5. Tom (Winnipeg) 20 Jul 2013, 11:01pm

    It seems that the human being has taken a leap in evolution!

  6. I think it’s worth taking adoption into account as a possible confounding factor. It may well be that children who have been adopted by gay or straight couples tend to be happier than those that were not.
    Given that most same-sex couples have probably adopted their child this is a factor that should be studied before you conclude that children of gay parents are happier than those of straight parents.

    1. colonelkira 21 Jul 2013, 12:02am

      If you had read the article it states that 80% of respondents were female. Most of their childrdn would be biological wouldn’t you say?

      1. Not necessarily. As far as I know the majority of same sex couples adopt. I haven’t heard gender differences mentioned before although the possibility does exist for women to choose to go through with IVF to have biological differences. But in that case you would still need to compare to straight parents that have undergone fertility techniques too.

  7. New York Skyine 20 Jul 2013, 11:55pm

    Studies like this are so stupid. I have always believed people who have a self understanding of who they are and teach their own children to be good people, be good to others and respect one self and love makes good homes and good parents, Regardless if gay or straight. Its not a battle to see who better at being a parent. My single mother had nothing to prove to others only to be.

    1. colonelkira 21 Jul 2013, 12:07am

      Are you serious? With what has happened in Russia as only one example, these studies are CRUCIAL!

      The more science we have to support us the more governments will be moved!

      1. Mum of two 21 Jul 2013, 2:41am

        It’s a mere questionairre. I wouldn’t say crucial at all, more like a waste and a possible step back. Time and money would have been better spent performing a more indepth and controlled study.

        1. colonelkira 21 Jul 2013, 3:12am

          Is there a part of the word “initial” that is unclear to you?

          1. colonelkira 21 Jul 2013, 3:15am

            sorry “preliminary”………same diff.

      2. New York Skyline 21 Jul 2013, 3:58am

        Where to start. Hmmm. So u think that this study makes russians see LGBT different then what they do know ? really ? i doubt it. Now I being 22, raised by a single straight mother what ur saying colonelkira if I was raised by a lesbian mother i would be happier. Right ? My mother did an amazing job and regardless if she was straight or gay she would still be a great mother 2 me. Her sexuality didn’t play a role in anything it was her being a neutering mother and teaching me proper values is what mattered.

        1. Sister Mary Clarence 21 Jul 2013, 9:14am

          Sweet Mother of God, will you get off the issue of how wonderfully your mother brought you up. I’m sure she was the best mother in the world however, its a pity she educate you a bit better.

          This isn’t a dig at your mother or the mother (or father) of anyone else. It is a piece of statistic analysis. Data has been gathered from a number of households, collated and analysed. Fundamental to this type of research is that it does not single out individuals, in fact quite the opposite, it buries them in means, median, standard deviations and error variances.

          What is is saying in very simple terms is when you add them all together and average them out, kids reared by gay parents fair better.

          If you weren’t so hung up on your own mother, you’d be aware that this isn’t the first research to have come up with this finding. This is generally the finding of any bone fide research on the topic. The Maudsley Hospital in London has also done quite a lot of work on this.

        2. Commander Thor 21 Jul 2013, 12:33pm

          I hope by “neutering” you mean “nurturing”…

        3. “Her sexuality didn’t play a role in anything it was her being a neutering mother and teaching me proper values is what ”

          you really should try to read the article before the I-love-my-mommy nonsense. The study is not detracting form YOUR mother, but stating that the results show that children of same sex partners are comparable to straight sex couples (in face this author says better in certain cases, but that’s not the issue). Its not that complicated.

  8. Mum of two 21 Jul 2013, 2:38am

    A questionairre is hardly a proper study. The headline drew me in but I finished the article feeling disappointed.

  9. I believe that gay people could make better parents overall. Not only is it impossible for them to have accidental children, but they also have to jump more hoops than straight people to actually have kids (surrogacy is expensive and adoption is a very long and stressful procedure). So I believe gay parents are generally better off financially and more committed to their kids.

    HOWEVER, many of the studies I have seen on gay parents have been weak. Frankly, it’s not good enough to just survey gay parents. There are actually thousands of gay parents around the world now. Surely we should be able to do a much better study these days to shut the more skeptical people up once and for all.

  10. Keith, free from plague 21 Jul 2013, 10:48am

    Let’s be honest. It is best for children to be raised by two biological and loving capable parents than two loving capable parents that are not biological and are same sex.
    There are studies that show children do better with straight parents. Here is one of many (please do not troll this post, thanks in advance!)

    1. Here comes Regnerus again…

    2. That is the most widely debunked study published since Paul Cameron went into hiding. Regnerus himself said that it could not be used to draw any conclusions about gay parenting. (He had exactly two (2) subjects who were actually raised by lesbian couples, none raised by gay male couples, which leaves no basis for comparison.) And an internal audit by Social Science Research, which published the study, concluded that it never should have been published.

      And it is not “one of many.” There are almost no studies that demonstrate that children do better with two biological, opposite-sex parents compared to same-sex parents, and the few there are suffer from serious methodological flaws. In fact, the weight of the evidence points in the opposite direction — there are well over 100 studies at this point comparing children of same-sex and opposite-sex couples, who perform equally in all measurable areas of psychosocial development.

      1. Keith, moral and free from plague 21 Jul 2013, 1:22pm

        But of course the study by the gayer is completely accurate and objective.! Snigger!!!

        1. ‘There are well over 100 studies’ – can’t you read?

        2. But of course the comment by the idiot bigot is completely accurate and objective.! Snigger!!!

    3. Daniel Howard 21 Jul 2013, 2:27pm

      Well that’s nonsense! I’m half-adopted. My dad isn’t my biological father yet he is my dad and always will be. My mother is biologically related to me. Biology and one’s sex doesn’t determine whether they’ll be a good parent or not! Any John and Mary can have a baby yet by your view they’ll by de facto make good parents because the child is biologically related to them and they’re a straight couple. There are loads of straight couples who shouldn’t even have a dog never mind kids! There are loads of kids fully adopted and they’ve done just as good as their non-adopted peers. The fact that a couple, gay or straight, who can’t have kids will go through all lengths to have one will give us a clear indication that they may make great parents. So shove your poxy, biased study where the sun don’t shine!

      1. Keith, moral and free from plague 21 Jul 2013, 3:18pm

        Nowhere have I said heterosexuals are better parents than homosexuals. I said …
        “Let’s be honest. It is best for children to be raised by two biological and loving capable parents than two loving capable parents that aren’t biological and are same sex.”
        What I mean is that it’s more beneficial for children to be with their biological parents if those parents are caring and loving. Homosexual parenting can only occur where there is biological parental dysfunction or death. In this regard it is a socialogical parasite since the homosexual model cannopt produce offspring of it’s own.
        If society evolves to the point where all parents are capable, there will be almost no children available for the homosexuals. The gay parent model relies on failure of the natural model for it’s existence and therefore the homosexual parenting community would see an increase of successful biological parenting as detrimental to their cause.
        It’s like arms traders that can only thrive where there is war.

    4. An yet kids are better raised by dogs then by you Keith. I do hope your neutered?

  11. Infertile consensual Incestuous rights 21 Jul 2013, 5:08pm

    This is a diversion since the arguments the gays are putting forward apply equally to heterosexual adopting. It is not therefore a matter of sexual orientation but rather, it is a matter of parental desire.
    We should be comparing like for like.
    There is no evidence or study to show that same sex couples make better adoptees than hetero adoptees..

    1. floridahank 21 Jul 2013, 6:50pm

      This is not a scientific study, it’s a survey, which in many cases is no more valid than a poll taken to get some results about a question. There are so many loopholes in this case that any qualified scientist would dismiss this as next to meaningless. If you do a study, you use a detailed approach that can be validated in a second, exact experiment to show a replication or denial of results. Human sexuality and childhood development are very complex issues and demand more than the article offers. Also, with many exposures that “scientists” do indeed misrepresent many parts of their studies/experiments, this survey doesn’t mean much either way -pro homosexual or pro-heterosexual families.

      1. colonelkira 22 Jul 2013, 12:26am

        Please learn how to read BEFORE making grand sweeping statements that are completely wrong. ta.

      2. ” If you do a study, you use a detailed approach that can be validated in a second, exact experiment to show a replication or denial of results”

        You think a survey is not accepted scientific methodology for sociological research? Really? Not too well versed in scientific research methods, are you?

        Why not be honest, you refuse the findings because (1) you don’t understand them an (2) you refuse to allow yourself to accept they might be true because you’re a proven bigot.


        1. floridahank 23 Jul 2013, 3:24am

          In psychology, the common definitions are: A survey generally uses questionnaires to gather information about specific aspects of subjects’ behavior. The major problems with surveys is that they depend on self-report data.

          Case studies usually use in-depth investigations that use a series of case studies, or surveys involving similar problems to look for threads of consistency that may yield general conditions.

          So there are vast differences when you want to apply the findings between surveys and studies. Using correct methodology and presenting correct results is not bigotry–it’s being scientific.

          1. Don’t be so bloody stupid. A study can incorporate a survey. Its perfectly acceptable was to gather structured qualitative data or mixed methods data.

            You’re ignorance is astounding.

          2. floridahank 24 Jul 2013, 8:29pm

            Will, a study is a study and a survey is a survey — that’s why they’re considered different categories. The scientific meanings between them is measurably different, so don’t be so ignorant to ignore the differences, unless you too are as ignorant as you think I am.

    2. This is true. For the gay adoption debate, however, this is the way the question has to be asked. The point is that on average adoption by gay parents is a good thing. Your concerns about the interpretation presented is only relevant if our goal was to show that gay adoption is better than anything else – which would be ridiculous.

  12. Biased polling LTD 21 Jul 2013, 5:18pm

    The results would have been similar had it been hetero adoptees .
    However, since the gay doctor that ran the poll clearly has an agenda and set his poll up to achieve a predetermined result, it will fool the gullible. he should have studied 500 children aged 5 to 17, from 315 gay, lesbian and bisexual parents then 500 children aged 5 to 17, from 315 hetero adoptive parents.

    1. Barnaby Black 21 Jul 2013, 7:07pm

      This study is too small, biased and the methodology is fundamentally flawed. It doesn’t inform anyone on anything at all and should be disregarded.

      1. Describe why the methodology is flawed. Is there a sample bias? Why do you think 315 parents is too small to make a conclusion?

  13. Parental desire & difficulty in starting a family should not be overlooked. Those of us (gay & straight) who have struggled for whatever reason to start the family we desperately wanted, in theory, should be the better parents.

    However, when heterosexuals have a child – their struggle is somewhat over (bear with me) & they can crack on with their lives & not even tell their children they are IVF/surrogate/donor conceived if they don’t wish to. But gay people & adoptive parents (gay & straight) are different & to a certain extent are always reminded of this in media etc so do have to consciously work harder (in my humble opinion) to make sure their family unit is a happy one because they know one day their kids will come up against some kind of negativity. A happy, confident & secure child will hopefully be able to deal with this better. My 2 year old is a ray of sunshine (mostly) & I always get comments on how happy he is. We wanted him & fought for him (IVF/high risk pregnancy).

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