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  1. I wish they’d feck off for goood !

    1. On the contrary, their sulky statements are sweet, sweet music.

    2. It really is none of their business. They are a foreign power trying to influence the direction of life in this country.

      I care what the pope says about our politics about as much as I care what Putin says about it, which is not at all.

      Catholics in this country really need to decide which country they live in and where their loyalties lie. Democratic Britain or the corrupt Vatican state?

  2. Michael Barber 17 Jul 2013, 5:58pm

    When will these religitards finally get the message that their 2000 year old dogma has no place in any government or government policy? Irrelevant, irrational, and morally bereft of any compassion or humanity.

  3. The Catholic Church can kiss my sheiny Heiny. Ten years of debate and a national opinion poll is enough. The bill is not ideal, there is more to be done, but given the large number of raging homophobes in Parliament I don’t think we were going to get better.

  4. It’s time……….to repeal the Catholic Relief Act

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 17 Jul 2013, 6:24pm

      A great pity and mistake it was ever enacted! And I say that as an ex-catholic and now an avowed atheist.

      1. Colin (London) 17 Jul 2013, 6:52pm

        Hear hear…me too.
        Get religion out of any government funded organisation.

    2. Godricsong godricsong 17 Jul 2013, 6:36pm

      Just ask for congregations to communicate Church wrongdoing to the Police and insist that the Police treat crime as crime

  5. RoughRugger 17 Jul 2013, 6:05pm

    Wonder if they’d like some cheese to go with all that whine…

  6. Tim Hanafin 17 Jul 2013, 6:06pm

    Boo hoo, boo hoo!

  7. echos from the dustbin of history.

  8. Alan Davies 17 Jul 2013, 6:12pm

    When the Catholic church stop supporing the IRA and covering up pervets then maybe they can preach – untill then shut up

    1. 100% correct !

  9. They forget there really are gay and lesbian children in catholic families and always have been.
    Have they forgotten dear old Keith O’Brien.
    Don’t they want equality for their own kids for fecks sake.
    In my younger days – when I was a wee bit of a tramp – there I’ll finally admit it.
    I had two priest f**k buddies and had sex in a Bishops downstairs lavie with the Bishop.of xxxxxx
    So don’t preach to me about morality and right and wrong you two faced bunch of hypocrites.

  10. Yeah heard it all before – last Christmas to be exact. Thanks BBC(!)

    1. And here’s the longer version –

      1. Colin (London) 17 Jul 2013, 7:25pm

        What rubbish.
        His numbers….crap. prove them. Most people I talked to did not write to MP’s etc because they are happy to extend marriage to anyone. It does not affect their marriage. The process was very good, Parliament consulted, listened and voted.

        What is going on here is that Parliament did listen to voters and represents them. Parliament also moves society on in line with a changing world. Religion stays very much in the past with supposed books written 2ooo-3000 years ago. Oh come on. Medicine, Law, Science etc have all been accepted by 99% of society.

        I so hope that anyone reading this and similar stories of grumpy old men see it for what it is.

        The world is modernising…….Churches….Make up your own mind.
        But yes they have media departments to bleet

  11. Gay equality legislation too fast for the catholics bigots?

    Pity they couldn’t apply themselves with as much speed when it comes to rooting out paedophiles from their own ranks!

    Bloody hypocrites!

    1. However, despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two. This is because, by definition, male homosexuals are sexually attracted to other males. While many homosexuals may not seek young sexual partners, the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners. In this paper we will consider the following evidence linking homosexuality to pedophilia:

      Pedophiles are invariably males: Almost all sex crimes against children are committed by men.

      Significant numbers of victims are males: Up to one-third of all sex crimes against children are committed against boys (as opposed to girls).

      The 10 percent fallacy: Studies indicate that, contrary to the inaccurate but widely accepted claims of sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, homosexuals comprise between 1 to 3 percent of the population.

      Homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses: ….

  12. Robert in S. Kensington 17 Jul 2013, 6:22pm

    Who really gives a flying f_ck what the Roman cult says. It already has protections in the Bill what more does it want? It’s not the state cult thankfully and ought to get its own filthy house in order before passing judgment and traducing the law. It has no authority to lecture the government and in my view is morally bankrupt given it’s track record of sexual abuse for almost two millennia.

    1. Midnighter 17 Jul 2013, 9:30pm

      My feelings exactly. We don’t need more protection for the church, we need more protection FROM the church.

  13. John in Toronto Canada 17 Jul 2013, 6:24pm

    They don’t want their beliefs challenged because there’s no way to DEFEND their beliefs other than “this book says so”. Some people are gay. It doesn’t affect you and you don’t need to be consulted.

  14. They’re complaining that this was ‘rushed through’ parliament. In fact, it underwent the longest and most comprehensive consultation ever, and it had two or three days of debate in each of the House of Commons and the House of Lords. By contrast, going to war in Iraq had a few hours of debate and no consultation.

    Their complaint that the new law rides roughshod over religious views because it doesn’t allow teachers to make up the facts, seems a direct throwback to the Scopes Monkey Trials.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 17 Jul 2013, 7:21pm

      They didn’t say NHS reforms were rushed through without any mandate or manifesto, no green paper, nothing. Yes, this Bill it was the longest public consultation in history and one of the longest legislative processes but then they never believed in facts, delusional loons.

  15. I want to hear what Cardinal Keith has to say about it. Hope journalists seek him out for an interview.

  16. Rushed through? This has been one of the most aggravating, tedious pieces of legislation I can recall in duration from start to finish!

    So now I am going to be the cynic because of all the frustration caused by the church… I am going to raise a glass to toast equal marriage in the UK. “as I said cynic” my wine of choice? A sparkling wine by a local Okanagan vineyard appropriately named “OMG” by Blasted Church vineyard!

    Whilst the story is this church was dismantled by blasting to remove the nails, perhaps the church in the UK should now be dismantled to removed the bigots.

    “Cheers… to perseverance, 2014 and equality”

  17. That There Other David 17 Jul 2013, 6:36pm

    Tell them we fast-tracked it, like they did with making John Paul II into the latest golden calf ;-)

    A century would have been too fast for The Vatican. Safe to ignore their whining here.

  18. GulliverUK 17 Jul 2013, 6:39pm

    Fcuk ’em. We don’t give a toss what they think, they’re irrelevant. This is 2013, nobody what they say any more. They’ve lost all credibility with their hatred and loathing of things they can’t control.

    Nobody has marginalised them except themselves. I hope their followers understand they can always join the Quakers, Unitarians or one of the many other welcoming inclusive affirming congregations – you don’t need to stay wedded to a trashy cult. You aren’t born Catholic, it’s mostly what your parents chose for you. So if you disagree strongly with the leaders, tell them, or just leave. If I was a Christian the Catholic church would be one of the last denominations I would choose.

    Go and see what other denominations are like – you owe it to yourself to try new things.

    1. The fact is that marriage, in relation to the state, serves as an ordering unit through which healthy citizens are bred. “Love” really is not the concern of the State. Whether gay marriage can possess real love is marginal. The crux of the issue is whether or not it serves society. Gay marriage does not because it cannot. It cannot be procreative. It cannot breed good citizens. It cannot provide a structured family unit. In truth, we cannot even call it “gay marriage.” That would be like saying gay heterosexual union. “Gay marriage” is a contradictory phrase bespeaking unreasonableness.

      If this were math, I would say, “one plus one equals two.” And, indeed, it does because there is an order to all things; there is a law. There is a mathematical law and likewise there is a natural law, a law of reason through which man can understand his telos, his ultimate end, and the way he must live so as to fulfill it.

  19. Helge Vladimir Tiller 17 Jul 2013, 6:49pm

    What has been “rushed through” – in the course of several hundred years- by force and weapons, is religious degrading of people like me; Violence -murder-executions and so on. Catholic Church, You have no conscience.

  20. Commander Thor 17 Jul 2013, 6:50pm

    I think the Catholic Churched rushed through their response. They should have given it 400 years like they did with Galileo.

  21. Colin (London) 17 Jul 2013, 7:10pm

    Stop living in the past. It was never very good for the masses.

    Embrace a future where the many are involved and their dreams of education, fresh water, medicine and equal paid work are real.

    Admit that your god never existed and that no-one can prove it.

    Face up to a world that is rapidly becoming overpopulated. Agree to condom use, abortion and euthanasia.

    No all we get is pink dresses and some obscure history lesson that the world thinks so what….Create a future

    Or be stupid, thick, moaners who will destroy this planet because you do not engage yourselves, intellectually, practically or have any compassion in your hearts.

    Turns my stomach that it’s really all about money and control. Waken up.

  22. Lies. But what can you expect other than manifest acts of boneheaded mendacity from this tedious backwards cult.

  23. They really don’t get the point do they. This debate is over, they have lost. This seems to me as a ‘throw the teddies out of the pram move’.

    The Catholic cult is becoming increasingly marginalised in the UK and throughout the developed world.

    No longer do people take on faith what is taught to them from the pulpit. Nowadays young people in particular can get a great deal of information and perspective online.

    The Catholic cult is irrelevant in today’s UK. They are just now waking up to that fact as if falling congregations for many years has not already told them that.

  24. GulliverUK 17 Jul 2013, 7:22pm

    btw, I think we are really going to have to start referring to these leaders of the Catholic hierarchy as …. “aggressive Catholics” … taking a leaf out of that pigs trotter Gerald Howarth’s book.

    It’s is a very apt and accurate description for them. They feign outrage, but everything they do is political calculation. They wanted to load hate on us and tried to get the public to do the same, but the public stuck two fingers up to these w@nkers.. How long did they think this charade would last? They’re loosing people left, right and center, they’re fiddling whilst Rome burns. Never again will they be listened to, this was their last chance to be taken seriously and instead is unloaded on us with hate and the public saw the lizard behind the mask.

    It doesn’t matter what the Catholic leaders do in the future, I will never stop loathing them.

    1. The Catholic church was literally built on aggression! Couldn’t think of a better word to describe it

      1. I could, several, but then my comment would probably be removed

  25. Robert (Kettering) 17 Jul 2013, 7:35pm

    My advice to the RC Church is get over it and get stuffed! Nobody is forcing your cult to perform SSMs so what is all the fuss about? Perhaps the Archbishop and Pope should concentrate on weeding out the many child abusers within its ranks and stop covering it up!

  26. The fact that you cannot sell your daughter for three goats and a cow means that you, the catholic church, have already redefined marriage, now pull your collective heads in and join the other giant tortoises on the march to extinction

    1. Yeah, but let’s try and save the giant tortoises.

  27. ” sexual complementarity ” ?? Is this how the catholic church describes the relationship between many of its priests and young children in their congregations?! The RC doesn’t have a moral leg to stand on – its reputation is in tatters. So get off your high horses RC Bishops – you don’t fool anyone any more – you have lost the respect of society and you no longer have any moral authority.

  28. How many children have been raped by catholic priests today?

  29. Funny, I don’t remember the Catholic Church complaining when Parliament rushed through Section 28.

  30. Jock S. Trap 17 Jul 2013, 8:06pm

    Yeah Wotever!!!

    Time to get over it me thinks. Clearly more people feel more strongly about love than they do duty.

    Clearly people have no wish to be controlled by over inflated ego’d dictatorship religions any more… I get they should deal with it!

    Oh no… the Catholic Church wants to discriminate against Gay people… oh what a surprise!!! Not… so boring!

  31. The Catholic Church has no moral authority on the protection of families and children considering the number of both they’ve violated. They now officially look stupid.

  32. Oh give it a break and change the bloody boring record! We won! You lost! Get over it!

    1. That There Other David 17 Jul 2013, 8:31pm

      It’s funny isn’t it? The RCC, Gerald Howarth, and French anti-gay campaigners….all saying exactly the same thing. Almost as if someone was co-ordinating them.

      Whatever did happen to ex-Charlatan-in-Chief Ratz any way?

  33. Mumbo Jumbo 17 Jul 2013, 8:33pm

    The men in big hats speak only for themselves. The majority of Catholics think differently – including hero of the hour Maria Miller.

  34. They are just bitter because there are more practising gays in the world than practising Catholics

  35. Yes like Your cock was ‘Rushed Through’ My arse when I was a kiddie.

  36. All I read from that statement is the protection of the church. Many people including myself agree that you don’t need four walls to believe in anything, whether it be God or injustice. And we all should remember that despite indifference we all belong to one race which is the human race who all should have the same rights.

  37. Tom (Winnipeg) 17 Jul 2013, 9:20pm

    So go the words of sore losers, as always. Will they get over it? Might as well.

  38. Yes….That’s because they rush in hiding children abuse within their church…..fact,just shut up catholic people…u r so 1600….

  39. Yeah, just die out already! Nobody needs your delusions!

  40. They believe these things should take time; like raising the age of consent in the Vatican from 12 to 18 took time.

  41. Ah… they’ve had two thousand years to prove themselves right, it hasn’t worked out so, so let’s move on.

  42. Neale Duncan 17 Jul 2013, 11:49pm

    All this bs about teachers being forced to endorse marriage equality. Since when have teachers been encouraged to give or promote their personal opinions to pupils? Their job is to teach the facts, on any subject or question they are asked, and keep their opinions to themselves.

  43. James Savik 17 Jul 2013, 11:55pm

    What? Was the Catholic establishment to busy molesting to fight equal marriage?

  44. The Church has had 2000 years to spread its poison. If they cannot convince people now of their position, they never will.

  45. Hypocrites that whole statement is an indictment of their bigotry wherein they seek to have legal protection for their self perceived ‘rights’ to discriminate and hate.

  46. Christopher in Canada 18 Jul 2013, 12:43pm

    Did they complain during the reign of Henry VIII and Elizabeth I? Yes, and Bloody Mary got her nickname how…?

  47. Bigots and liars.

  48. Many of the above views(Rome-o-phobic) are worthy of Der Stürmer (the Anti-Catholic Pink News of it’s day):

    “Catholic baiting is the anti-Semitism of the liberals.”

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