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Study: Young gay men need HPV vaccine as they are 15 times more likely to develop genital cancer

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  1. Robert in S. Kensington 16 Jul 2013, 1:24pm

    Long overdue. Now that doctors are calling for it, the government should listen.

  2. Jock S. Trap 16 Jul 2013, 1:31pm

    It is a vaccine that should be open to all that require it. Prevention has to be the cheaper option surely so this should be a matter of doing the right thing not the financial gain they can get from it but the healthier lives of all.

  3. This vaccine should be given to all boys at the same age as girls, i.e. at the start of puberty.

    Vaccines should not be used as a bargaining chip. Making the vaccine available only at STI clinics would be misguided and irresponsible. The most vulnerable (i.e. young and/or closeted) will have real reservations about identifying themselves as gay/bi and should be offered the vaccine in every context where they might accept it: at school, and at the GP’s surgery, as well as at STI clinics.

    The only real solution is to vaccinate all boys on the same basis as girls. This will also be valuable for heterosexual men as there are areas where takeup among girls is below the level required for herd immunity, e.g. in Cornwall as the BBC recently reported.

  4. Brett Gibson 16 Jul 2013, 1:58pm

    What if you have sex with bisexual men?

    1. Commander Thor 16 Jul 2013, 2:13pm

      You don’t pass on the immunity as if it’s a virus.

      Heterosexual men are protected because they have sex with only women, who themselves have the vaccine.

      Gay men are not protected as they have sex with men who don’t themselves have the vaccine – they are at risk.

      If a bisexual man has sex with only another bisexual man who only ever has sex with women, and all the women he had sex with are vaccinated, then he is probably safe.

      If a bisexual man has sex with anyone who is not vaccinated, and that person has the virus, then he is at risk.

      1. Heterosexual men aren’t really protected, though. Firstly, not all women get the vaccination, and over a certain age it’s very rare. I’m 35 and my generation weren’t offered the vaccine. Plenty of parents are anti-vaxxers, especially with Gardasil. Secondly, it doesn’t always take. This problem is not going to start being reduced until we aim to vaccinate everyone, regardless of age or gender, and get decent herd immunity going.

  5. Given the financial costs to the health service of resulting cancer treatment which amounts to many thousands per patient (not to mention the personal cost of cancer treatment) and the increased risk of also getting HIV infection or the increased risk from HPV cancers if someone is imunosuppressed due to HIV.
    Is it a false saving in NOT vaccinating ALL younger males.
    The so called herd immunity is not a perfect equation (apart from not applying to gay men and MSM or bi-sexual men), and not all females are vaccinated and some who are, the immunity “does not take” in women so vaccination of men would also help decrease the risk for those women too.

  6. Are ‘heteronormals’ men who are ‘normally’ hetersexual apart from when they fantasize about being rogered by a big strong hairy man and then feel so dirty that they go and troll a gay news-site to try to convince themselves that they are straight?

    1. Christopher in Canada 17 Jul 2013, 3:11am

      If you want to live a limited life having boring, one-way sex, go for it. I prefer my cup full – no half-measures of anything (like the half-empty place in your skull where a complete brain normally sits). Whatever it takes for you to attempt to validate your pathetic existence. (Hint: str8 guys who have a sex partner/lover don’t have time to troll gay sites. You, therefore, are perennially single.)

      1. floridahank 17 Jul 2013, 4:29pm

        Chris, when you say ” I prefer my cup full – no half-measures of anything”
        I hope you’re not including bestiality, because that indeed would fill your cup completely. Next time clarify your statements because there are truly weird sexual activity going on — whatever the mind can conceive, man can achieve.

    2. “Homosexualism” lol

  7. “The vaccination programme against HPV began in 2008 in the UK, but only among girls, on the grounds that this would curb the spread of the infection to boys as well.”

    No, that’s not how herd immunity works. My best guess as to why it’s only been given to girls is that they don’t want to make it about HPV, so they’re marketing it as the “cervical cancer vaccine”. There are still huge number of parents refusing it because they don’t think their little girl could ever get an STI and are insulted by the idea. The whole thing is being very badly handled, and stigmatises sexuality in general and female sexuality in particular.

    1. Christopher in Canada 17 Jul 2013, 3:13am

      And what’s new about that? Men have been trying to control women and their bodies for millennia.

      1. Sadly true. I haven’t heard of it being applied to vaccination I this strange way before, though.

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