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Nick Clegg: I didn’t think my equal marriage pledge to PinkNews could become law so quickly

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  1. Nice that one of his pledges came (/is about to) come true! Watch him milk this one, he doesn’t have anything else to cling to

  2. Well let’s not congratulate Clegg – he does not deserve to be thanked.

    Clegg, Cameron and Miliband all believe that our equal civil rights are a conscience matter and allowed a free vote on it.

    And Cleggie has not condemned the extremist bigotry of his party colleaugues Sarah Teather or Shirley Williams.

    The ONLY good thing to come out of the ‘free vote’ is the knowledge that over 50% of Tory MP’s are homophobic scum, and that no LGBT person in their right mind can vote for the Tories (despite the kind noises Cameron and a minority of Tory MP’s make about equality.)

    Come the next election we will lknow exactly who we need to help get rid of – and that includes a majority of Tory bigot MP’s

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 15 Jul 2013, 12:56pm

      A majority of those Tory bigot MPs live in safe constituencies which is why they get away with the bile and mendacious statements traducing Equal Marriage. Some may lose in the next election but the majority won’t I’m afraid.

      1. Indeed – but those who are in vulnerable seats (like Sarah Teather) must be targeted for removal.

        I know full well that many of the bigots will remain, but a concentrated effort to remove those Tory bigots in marginal seats should be supported by all LGBT people.

        In fact it would be a perfect opportunity for the LGBTory group to show it is not the spineless PR group it appears to be.

        I think Pink News should request a statement from LGBTory to confirm that it opposes the re-election of any Tory MP’s who are opposed to full equal civil rights for LGBT people.

        1. Graham Evans 15 Jul 2013, 4:13pm

          I trust you’ll also be targeting the Labour MPs who voted against gay marriage. Here’s a list for future reference.
          Joe Benton (Bootle)
          Ronnie Campbell (Blyth Valley)
          Tom Clarke (Coatbridge, Chryston & Bellshill)
          Rosie Cooper (Lancashire West)
          David Crausby (Bolton North East)
          Tony Cunningham (Workington),
          Jim Dobbin (Heywood & Middleton)
          Brian Donohoe (Ayrshire Central)
          Robert Flello (Stoke-on-Trent South)
          Mary Glindon (Tyneside North)
          Paul Goggins (Wythenshawe & Sale East)
          Dai Havard (Merthyr Tydfil & Rhymney)
          Michael McCann (East Kilbride, Strathaven & Lesmahagow)
          Jim McGovern (Dundee West), Iain McKenzie (Inverclyde)
          George Mudie (Leeds East)
          Paul Murphy (Torfaen)
          Stephen Pound (Ealing North)
          Frank Roy (Motherwell & Wishaw)
          Jim Sheridan (Paisley & Renfrewshire North)
          Derek Twigg (Halton)
          Mike Wood (Batley & Spen)

          1. Of course
            But unlike the Tory party only a small minority of Labour MP’s are bigoted scum – 21 MP’s.

            128 (yes 128) Tory MPs are neo-fascist homophobic scumbags.

            A MAJORITY of Tory MP’s are homophobic scum.

            The LGBTory group agrees with me that no LGBT person in their right mind should vote for a Tory MP who opposed marriage equality.

            (Surely this is true – surely LGBTory Group are not so unspeakably useless that it could contemplate voting for ANY of those 128 neo-fascist pigs).

    2. And you can vote down my comment above all you like, but it is an indisputable FACT that over 50% of Tory MP’s are homophobic scum that STILL believe that the LGBT community are 2nd class citizens.

      I think we can all agree that as many MP’s who voted against equality who can be removed at the next election, the better for the entire country.

      Over 50% of Tory MP’s belong in the BNP thanks to their homophobic extremism.

      Cameron knows this, we all know this. Get rid of them.

    3. Without Clegg, Cameron and Miliband’s support pushing this through against opposition, we wouldn’t on the cusp of equal marriage rights.

      I don’t understand this negativity. Why can’t you be happy that something good is happening.

      1. I am very happy that something good is happening.

        But the reality remains that over 50% of MP’s in the main party in this country are homophobic extremists who think we are 2nd class citizens.I

        It is not negative to point out a fact.

        And it is in all our interests to do out utmost to ensure that the homophobic scum who make up a majority of the Tories are removed at the next election. L

        LGBTory support this position – LGBTory advise LGBT people to NOT vote for any candidate who believes we do not deserve equal civil rights.

        (Actually that last sentence is a joke – LGBTory group obviously don’t have an opinion on anything unless Tory HQ allows them to have it)

    4. By all means criticise the Tories for other policies, but I don’t think it’s fair to collectively vote against them on LGBT issues. Cameron led the way against all the odds, and deserves our gratitude for that.

      I’m not convinced that Labour’s leader was as strongly committed as David Cameron. Indeed Ed Miliband’s first speech as leader, in which he praised civil partnerships, clearly implied he was about to backtrack on his promise to Pink News readers.

      1. “I don’t think it’s fair to collectively vote against them on LGBT issues.”

        Agreed – it is ONLY acceptable to vote for a Tory MP (or any other MP) who voted in favour of equal civil rights.

        Over 50% of current Tory MP’s are extremist homophobic scum who believe we are 2nd class citizens undeserving of equal civil rights.

        Not a single one of them deserves or should receive a single vote from ANY LGBT voter.,

        Even Cameron must accept that this is fair and reasonable.,

        It is never wise to vote for a candidate who hates you for who you are.

        Over 50% of current Tory MP’s are extremist bigots who hate the gay community.

      2. The VAST majority of Labour MP’s supported marriage equality.

        We are on the cusp of marriage equality in spite of (not because of) the Law and Justice Tory bigots.

  3. The rate of progress in the UK has indeed been astonishing. I speak as a former British person who, together with my partner, gave up our former lives and careers and moved away from the UK in 1993 because we were so tired of not being allowed to be ourselves there. There is no comparison between the situation now and how it was then. But, as Nick Clegg rightly implies, even as late as 2010 the idea of same sex couples having the same legal status as opposite sex couples still seemed unthinkable in the UK. Why, even Stonewall was slow on the uptake! These last few years have been quite incredible to watch from the other side of the North Sea.

  4. Please note that Clegg is not quoted in this entire article as having mentioned ‘pledge’ or any of the words in the title or first paragraph except “so quickly”.

    Four people in this government should get praise for the pushing of this bill. Nick Clegg, David Cameron, Lynne Featherstone and Maria Miller.

    PinkNews should stop making snarky idiotic headlines to snipe at pro-LGBT MP’s.

    1. Well have a look at Benjamin Cohen’s article on the front page today.

      PN seems to be trying to claim credit for marriage equality.

      It played a part undoubtedly but so did thousands of others.

      PN was far more effective as a website when Jessica Geen was in charge as it did not seem so ego-driven and self-promoting as it does now.

      1. Now you’ve commented on that article, why not try reading it too. It is humbly written, acknowledges mistakes in the early years of Pink News, and credits Peter Tatchell and the Green Party with the original push for marriage equality.

  5. Why is Pink News referenced in the headline here?

    The story really has nothing specific to do with Pink News.

    Unless of course Pink News is trying to claim that before it decided to support marriage equality, that no-one in Britain was even considering it?

  6. Clegg making a pledge? Watch out, he may still change his mind and blame it on “difficult decisions”….

  7. Circuit Ben 15 Jul 2013, 4:59pm

    The bill is flawed at best, and to be fair it had nothing to do with Clegg.

    Putting through this legislation, and pretending it means that human rights are a serious concern for the LibDems, while simultaneously killing off the nation’s poor and disabled, would be funny, if it wasn’t so tragic.

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