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UK: Gay couple say ‘it was right’ to take discriminatory Christian B&B owner to court

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  1. Robert in S. Kensington 10 Jul 2013, 1:46pm

    Good for them! I hope the Supreme Court throws out the case and lets the Court of Appeals ruling stand.

  2. They sound opportunistic…I thought they were definitely looking for cash….

    1. You’re right. I often drive around rural areas looking for discriminatory businesses so I can make a quick buck.

    2. Jock S. Trap 11 Jul 2013, 10:06am

      And yet what we’re seeing is the B&B couple dragging this out as ‘opportunistic’ to try and give Them the right to discriminate.

  3. de Villiers 10 Jul 2013, 3:10pm

    Has anyone read this judgment? It is far less favourable then people here consider.

    First, the Court of Appeal decided that the previous case, involving Preddy, was wrong. That case decided that this type of behaviour was direct discrimination which could not be justified. Here, the Court of Appeal said it had reached the wrong decision earlier and that such behaviour could be justified.

    It then said that the gay rights would have to be balanced against the religious rights and that the gay rights would not always be successful. At paragraph 72:

    “Accordingly, even though the defence of justification has to be approached in the context of the Regulations, and on the basis that the regulations are Convention- compliant, it would be wrong to conclude that there are no circumstances where the defence of justification might not apply in the context of reliance on manifestation of religious beliefs.”

    1. “If you bring in a law which says all people will be treated equally, then all people will be treated equally.” Lord Reid of Cardowan.

    2. bobbleobble 10 Jul 2013, 10:55pm

      Although they did give a different view on the justification defence to that given in Preddy I would say two things. Firstly they still found both direct and indirect discrimination in this case despie this new look at the justification issue. Second the Supreme Court has yet to rule on these issues and will do so later this year. The Court of Appeal has already ruled on Preddy and it falls to the Supreme Court to provide precedent for all cases such as this one. So we’ll have to wait and see.

  4. Craig Rudd 10 Jul 2013, 4:07pm

    Jesus just go to a different hotel. My mum wouldnt let me and my boyf stay in the same beds, and we were given the choice of her house, her rules, or find a hotel. So we stayed in a premier inn. If they did know the woman was a Christian, why even try to stay there? If they didnt know, surely they must appreciate that the lady isnt fond of the gays, and rather than make a fuss, just leave… I dont even ask about it now. Respecting other people’s views goes both ways…

    1. Are you a troll or just ignorant? If your mum wants to apply “biblical” values in her own home that’s her prerogative but the moment someone opens up their home as a business they have to abide by the Equality Act. This woman didn’t, she broke the law and is reaping the consequences, just as she deserves

    2. bobbleobble 10 Jul 2013, 10:58pm

      And what would you have done if you’d turned up at the premier inn and they’d told you you couldn’t sleep in the same bed as your boyfriend? Especially if you’d booked and paid a deposit and turned up in the evening expecting access to your room. Presumably your mother gave you some warning and didn’t simply turf you out.

      Respecting your mother’s views in her own home is a world away from being told by a hotelier that you can’t stay in a pre booked room because you’re gay.

    3. Jock S. Trap 11 Jul 2013, 10:08am

      Well if even your Mum doesn’t accept you and discriminates against you I guess ‘acceptance’ must be a big issue to you.

  5. Jock S. Trap 11 Jul 2013, 10:04am

    They were completely in the right.

    And lets not forget that it’s the B&B couple that are continuing in their quest to discriminate rather than admit they were in the wrong. It is the B&B couple that are taking this and trying to turn it into some kind of persecution trial, not the Gay couple who were wronged.

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