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Equal marriage bill passes Report Stage in House of Lords

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  1. That There Other David 10 Jul 2013, 11:47pm

    Excellent news. Getting closer and closer now. Next week will be a time for celebration, I’m certain of it :-)

    1. bobbleobble 11 Jul 2013, 12:20am

      Certainly got my fingers crossed, by this time next week the bill will hopefully be through Parliament and off to Queenie’s desk, there to languish for two months for some reason!

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 11 Jul 2013, 6:18pm

        From what I know, bills passed in the Lords can’t receive assent after a Parliamentary session is in recess. It’s the government’s amendments that have held it up I believe. It should have gone to the Lords much earlier in my view at least in the earlier part of June. The Queen doesn’t actually sign bills but just gives royal assent.

        1. bobbleobble 11 Jul 2013, 6:21pm

          It’s not really a problem since the law isn’t going to come into effect until next summer it just seems odd that the Queen can’t give assent to a bill outside of a Parliamentary session.

          1. Robert in S. Kensington 11 Jul 2013, 6:37pm

            I know and agree with you. There ought to be a special session for this sort of thing outside of an official recess. Not only do we need Lords reform but the entire legislative process takes far too long in my view and should be cut in half. Other countries have taken far less time to get this done. I also don’t understand why we would have to wait about a year before marriages can begin.

          2. bobbleobble 12 Jul 2013, 11:20am

            Well Robert, the year long wait is the big mystery. New Zealand will take 90 days from passage of the bill to its implementation, France took only a few days. I wonder what this says about the efficiency of our civil service that it takes nearly a year to implement our bill. `

  2. This is exhausting – just for those watching it. Bit up for Lord Ali – he’s been there every step of the way. Think the crucial piece is that the bill is intact and that the only amendments to be voted through so far by the Lords are the government’s own amendments. Hence, it should get approval from the Commons very quickly. As i understand it – during ping pong – the Commons can only review the successful Lords Amendments – nothing else about the bill itself or the defeated amendments? Almost there…although i expect a weekend of awful right wing press and christian websites….party party…Monday night..

  3. So 15 July might not be quite the end of the road. It’s almost as frustrating as the way Clause 28 became Clause 26, then 27 and then 28 and finally Section 28 before two decades later being abolished. Hard to write a placard when the Section and date keep changing!

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 11 Jul 2013, 6:32pm

      Since none of the wrecking amendments were approved and as CG says the only amendments to be voted through so far by the Lords are the government’s own amendments, I doubt if the game of ping pong will take up that much time if any. The crucial vote is for third reading on Monday and once passed is cause for celebration, virtually a done deal and we will unofficially become the 15th country to approve Equal Marriage. Royal assent is just an automatic formality but makes it official and legal.

  4. Since they removed Lord Ali’s equal pension amendment we can’t really call this “equal marriage” anymore. Perhaps “equal-ish marriage” or “getting closer to equal marriage” or “equal* marriage”?

    * not really

    1. Colin (London) 11 Jul 2013, 9:43am

      Don’t worry. There are ways to catch this up. It will take some time but there is a plan to make this happen.

      1. There is a Pensions Bill on the horizon!

  5. Zamunad Patel 11 Jul 2013, 8:42am

    Time to start preparing my marriage for a free british passport, and the divorce in two years time, in which I can bring my whole extended family down! YAY

    1. So? You could do just the same thing NOW-with a woman-so whats the difference?

      A none argument if ever there was one!

      1. That There Other David 11 Jul 2013, 10:19am

        Also, I believe the rules have been tightened significantly recently for family members of non-EU citizens to enter the country. So “Mr Patel” is unlikely to be able to bring anyone with “him” regardless of marital status.

        Ho hum….

    2. You can already do that. Heterosexuals and gay people marry people of the opposite sex for no other reason than getting a passport. Why should this new law be expected to change that in any way.

      Another red herring fear bomb that misses its target completely.

      Try again!

      1. And if you can find yourself a woman a Church of England vicar will I’m sure be happy to marry you no questions asked.
        Don’t take the piss out of our fight for equality if you ever do get ‘gay’ married I’m sure your extended family with want nothing to do with you and your gay husband.
        Grow up.

  6. Usually Im not a fan of the unelected Lords but I must congratulate the majority of them for displaying a good understanding of fairness & equality. Particularly the many references to how appallingly gay men & women have been treated by previous governments & the state church. Lord Ali has earned my total respect & admiration, as has Baroness Stowell. The fight for equality in pensions & decreasing homophobia in schools will need our attention now.

  7. Colin (London) 11 Jul 2013, 9:52am

    I will certainly be outside Parliament on Monday.

    There are so many people to thank for from Parliament, lawyers, advisors, fund raisers, and most of the good British public.

    Seriously is there any way we could have a THANK YOU concert or gig in Hyde Park and televise it World Wide.

    Does anyone know anyone who would be interested to work on this.

    The issue is SSM but it’s far bigger than this. Equality. Other minority groups around the world will have hope and fire in their belly to get things changed. We should shine our light high.

    How do we do this???????

    1. Excellent suggestion. I love the idea of a televised concert highlighting equality for our brothers & sisters across the world who live lives of daily persecution.

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 11 Jul 2013, 1:59pm

      I concur. I also have another suggestion for StonewallUK. How about singular awards for Cameron, Clegg, Featherstone, Miller, Baronesses Stowell, Thornton, Noakes, Howe, Royall, Lords Alli, Fowler, Jenkin, and Lester to name but a few? They deserve recognition for the hard work and dedication they’ve given to this important Bill?

      1. Colin (London) 11 Jul 2013, 5:27pm

        Absolutely

  8. If you don’t have the link here it is;
    http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-14/marriagesamesexcouplesbill.html

    That’s the bill as amended following the report stage (a web version and pdf)

    1. it will always be gay marriage not equal marriage

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